Can you compare these three blades: Freitas ALC, Viscaria ALC, Harimoto innerforce ALC

[zaivyi]

I want to know how much speed they have(approximately), how it feels when you hit a ball (like woody feeling, or hard carbon feeling), and how much control they have (approximately)

 

[Tyce]

The Harimoto is pretty much a drop-in upgrade for Korbel Japan. Touch game is nearly identical, and the transition to carbon kick when speed goes up is very gradual/natural.

Viscaria is a more sharp experience. If you like Korbel for its capacity to hold the ball quite long, you will find Viscaria a big change. Besides that, the carbon kicks in pretty quick but that also makes it more predictable. Works better with compact strokes (compared to Korbel/Harimoto).

The Freitas, I can't tell you anything about personally. But there's reviews all over the place.

 

[merlin el mago]

Same brand so expect small variations.

Other thing if not all 3 blades weight the same or have a very different woods, but I thing isn't the case.

 

[Airoc]

The Freitas, I can't tell you anything about personally.

Freitas has softer touch compared to Viscaria because Limba is used as the top veneer as opposed to Koto.
Harimoto also has Limba outer plies and the ALC is directly on the core, not beneath the surface, and it has a bigger head.
So from the construction three different blades.

And I think you´ve described Harimoto vs Viscaria accurately.

 

[merlin el mago]

If different wood or carbon inside or outside made logical differences.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

I want to know how much speed they have(approximately), how it feels when you hit a ball (like woody feeling, or hard carbon feeling), and how much control they have (approximately)

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[mightymouse]

Given the same weight, then:

Korbel (Japan) --> Innerforce Layer ALC / Harimoto ALC --> Freitas ALC --> Viscaria / Boll ALC

softer / more flexible / slower / more control --> harder / stiffer / faster / less control

control is subjective, because there are people who are used to stiffer blades might find flexible blades harder to control.

 

[kapahoo]

I've always felt that Freitas is faster then Viscaria. Thicker and more powerful.
Not by a lot but a little.

 

[Tyce]

I've always felt that Freitas is faster then Viscaria. Thicker and more powerful.
Not by a lot but a little.

There's bouncy-fast and swing-hard-fast thicker blades will be more of the latter, hard blades will be more of the first.

 

[ripctt2]

Not from personal experience but i believe freitas is slightly thicker + limba outer ply which should theoretically give it more dwell. viscaria has a koto outer ply which makes it harder and generally faster.

 

[kapahoo]

There's bouncy-fast and swing-hard-fast thicker blades will be more of the latter, hard blades will be more of the first.

Good explanation! 😄

 

[zaivyi]

thank you for your recommendations, maybe I will buy Harimoto ALC because I tried FZD ALC(Basically as I know FZD ALC has the same structure with Viscaria ALC) and it was a way too fast from my point of view

 

[steve888]

The Butterfly Marcos Freitas ALC is in between the harimoto and Viscaria/FZD for speed. More control than Viscaria and close to the Harimoto. Harimoto is a larger head and I found it a bit head heavy, I actually preferred the innerforce over the harimto as less head heavier and seem more agile as a result. The Harimoto is a great blocking blade though but I found I was more defending than attacking with it.

The freitas is a good blend of defending and attacking as a blade, a bit more dwell than the FZD but I like the FZD too - to me the FZD is a better than the Viscaria as its more controllable and has more dwell than it. I have the innerforce, freitas and FZD blades.

 

[zaivyi]

The Butterfly Marcos Freitas ALC is in between the harimoto and Viscaria/FZD for speed. More control than Viscaria and close to the Harimoto. Harimoto is a larger head and I found it a bit head heavy, I actually preferred the innerforce over the harimto as less head heavier and seem more agile as a result. The Harimoto is a great blocking blade though but I found I was more defending than attacking with it.

The freitas is a good blend of defending and attacking as a blade, a bit more dwell than the FZD but I like the FZD too - to me the FZD is a better than the Viscaria as its more controllable and has more dwell than it. I have the innerforce, freitas and FZD blades.

I will take it into account, thank you!

 

[h3llary]

I think Freitas is super hard and stiff, problebly the hardest limba outer I've tried so far.
Viscaria is infinitely softer
Harimoto is also rather soft but due to super high throw angle it was uncomfortable for me, I'm not used to closing angle racket so much and drive the ball forwards. I'm used to more upward stroke

 

[steve888]

Yes Freitas is a bit stiffer than viscaria but it has more dwell and slightly slower, higher throw (more arc) and easier close to the table - not as much catapult.

 

[steve888]

The other blade - if you don't want to spend much money is yinhe pro 01 , similar to viscaria but more dwell and control and a little stiffer.

 

[WingTT]

The other blade - if you don't want to spend much money is yinhe pro 01 , similar to viscaria but more dwell and control and a little stiffer.

But also be aware that there is no free lunch. You may end up with a dud due to QA. The one Yinhe Pro 01 I tried felt inconsistent. Cheaper blades carry more of a gamble.