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No, the ball never pops up. I would have to angle my racket completely horizontal. As it is I have to angle it nearly completely open. If it's angled wrong it'll go into the net with speed. We're talking about inverted chops here, against my topspin. They don't rely as much on incoming spin...

So a very relaxed grip, taking it off the bounce and killing some of the spin by putting my own spin on it should help? To now I have only touched them back with a nearly non-moving racket. If I chop into it a bit, with enough touch, it should be possible to go shorter?

Hey guys. I did not play today, but I have a question: When receiving a heavy chop from an inverted chopper, or just a heavy chop in general, that floats a bit short and low over the table, I know how to angle my racket very open to get the ball over the net to the other side. However it will...

@NextLevel True, but to me, good form is pretty much the same as good feeling, safe form. I'm not a professional athlete, so it's not like I necessarily need to push myself to the point where I'll start breaking. I'm mostly concerned about causing injury and excessive wear due to my form...

@Takkyu_wa_inochi This is the funniest thing I've seen all morning, and probably all day. Great job. As tempting as that sounds (Or not, thinking about the sheer PT I'd go through :rolleyes:), I just can't do something like that. Due to personal reasons. Like I said, you will see. Some day I...

I can spin up balls somewhat, but my basics are really lacking. There's no power and very little spin at that, too. I know I'm really missing something, but that's okay. I haven't taken a good look at my backhand nor have I really practiced it. Maybe it's time, now. I can block and push pretty...

Well, that's one way to put it, I guess. For well over half a year, I knew "something" was terribly off with my forehand. So I had a pretty similar reaction, honestly. :rolleyes: Now I can pretend I know what I'm doing. I just need to never show anyone my backhand.

More like I simply can't go to a club in Finland because the state of table tennis in Finland is laughable. However, soon...

Soon. You will see. Of course, if I have the time to even visit a club in the first place...

@ttmonster That is why I'm concentrating on rallying skills like recovery and spin over speed. 3rd ball against the kind of trash pushes I get from my serves isn't practice at all. @NextLevel Did I hit a milestone or something? To me this is just an average training day, although I did make...

Yes, I understand. I try my best to improve them, but there's a good limit. What I can do however is to try to maximize my own spin and speed, and strive to play a more proper game. The quality of my serve or how well I do basic footwork has little to do with my opponent, I think. Although I'd...

Did he ever learn to loop or did he just disappear off the face of the earth?

What if his mother was a national level player and he just didn't want to let you guys know? TT attracts all of the weirdos. Definitely.

Yeah, it seems so. Thanks for the advice: I'll do it like this from now on. Although the spin level is much, much, much lower so I'm inclined to believe it has something to do with that as well.

After over an hour straight of the same stuff, you're not too inclined to film a half-hour video. :rolleyes: I was going to film more, but my PARTNER was getting tired, hahaha.

Hahahaha. Although you know that your last statement is a slight overstatement.

Hey guys. Drilled for maybe 1.5h or so today. Just forehand vs block, and some short serve return -> rally at the end. I took more video than this, but they were more-so tests to see what I'm even doing. This is my attempt after adjusting. Low spin, low speed, so my partner can work on his...

Makes sense. It's also a more game-like drill, which is a plus. And the level of topspin/speed of the ball can be varied easier and we can even transition from blocking close to the table to a bit off the table. Good advice. I'll try it next time. Thanks. I think having even the little bit of...

This drill is for me. If we train his block specifically, I feed him much lighter spin. However your point about the moving ball makes a lot of sense. One moving ball that comes back reliably makes more sense to loop for practice than from the hand. I will serve him some topspin tomorrow and...

I felt that I get better quality practice for myself if I do the "extra stroke" instead of serving topspin. I can practice one stroke more vs one topspin serve more. I'm not sure if he would have an easier time blocking the topspin serve, but I think if he can't block my first stroke, he's not...