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At least there's his face in the corner and it's mentioned in the description. I hope he has permission. I woke up today, right now, and the first thing I thought is "How is lateral placement disguised in serves?" Sometimes when I serve a tricky serve to someone roughly my level or lower, it...

I think a millisecond is a bit of an exaggeration. Doesn't seem to be too far off, though.

I'm surprised you don't see it. I do. Think about what the name implies.

Sa! Saa!! C'mon!!!!

Put it onto a table or something else flat, grab it with your fingers and put a side/top spin on it. Sometimes you notice something weird.

@NextLevel Yes, I understand. The mechanics is fundamentally wrong, because I feel I straighten my arm out mainly to get the spin. The elbow needs to be able to stay more or less the same for a higher level serve. A bonus is that it will also be contacted closer to the body, then.

@Shuki I understand, but I don't think it is so important.

@Shuki More-so I mean that I don't need to always reset fully when I practice serves. Sometimes you are tired or want to look very closely at what the ball is doing. I was looking at the spin, height and depth here. Don't tell me you've never practiced serves like this. Of course, you...

@Shuki Yeah, good point. Although I HAVE used these serves in games (Actually decent ones, too. I did not feel very good about these because I mostly just straightened my arm and did not use the wrist correctly.) and reset just fine. So these are not "for show". It is just how I practice them...

Be sure to get some National underwear for the maximum placebo effect.

Trained a bit today. Wasn't really feeling it. I want to post at least something every time I train, so here are some reverse serves. They're kinda lousy: wrist not involved enough. Spin and consistency really vary.

I'll go to play today. I could get my partner to demonstrate what I mean with me, but I kind of doubt he can consistently give me a heavy enough ball and have it land anywhere near the table. So maybe I will just post the same kind of video as usual. It's a shame his push is not quality...

This is a reference. I understood this reference. Remember when Cloud 9's CS team was good?

Wait till you see my side/top corkscrew inside/out mango flick!

My mistake for using chop when referring to returning the ball. However when I say the ball is a chop, I really do mean the Joo Sae Huyk and Gionis kind of off the table, big swing against a loop. Ear to knee, and all that.

Well, you have said yourself that most people you play are below your level... :rolleyes:

What kind of lifting are we talking about here? A very slight motion or a more visible, bigger one? Say, 5mm movement or 5cm movement?

@SchemeSC I think you're understanding me wrong. I'm not talking about loaded up chops that clear the net by 1mm and are clearly short. They're just a bit too low and just a bit too short for me to go for it and I would rather push them every time. If it's clearly long then it's a no-brainer to...

@SchemeSC On the balls that fall closer to the net, I've never tried. I think it's too much of an advanced shot for me, looping that kind of ball very close to the table. It doesn't look like I can get my bat on it without hitting the table. I will try, though. Who knows... If it's clearly...

I will see if I can film this. I'm not 100% sure where my racket is moving on contact. I think what I am doing is I am coming into the ball very slowly with my racket while keeping the angle the same. But it might be something else, too. I'll also try to see what happens if I angle it...