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The original point being made is that one can misinterpret the video but that there is enough basis in the video for it being interpreted as delivering a ball that is not a topspin ball. The physics claiming that you can't deliver an underspin ball with that swing is just wrong. It was...

That's all I am saying. It's just what a TT player does - figure out how to return it using a mental model that works. The hardcore physics you figure out later if you give a damn, but I have seen lots of people with screwed up intellectual physics, myself included, return balls that they just...

Serving/receiving is different since the ball is slow enough to be deliberate about where to contact it. In serving as well, it is easier to do things that give the ball a mix of spin and force vectors. In rallying and receiving, given the limitations often enforced by distance and incoming...

The ball moves (and spins) in one direction and when it hits the table, if it has a significant amount of corkscrew, it kicks in the direction that the corkscrew element takes it. If not, my experience is that you need to treat it like topspin or backspin with a mild sidespin adjustment for...

You aren't, the problem is that you are focused on the physics and blahness is focused on the table tennis. How would you return the ball? How would knowing it was corkscrew given how the ball is travelling affect your approach? If you pushed the ball, could you return it? If so, what is the...

The original super team is Shandon Weiqao on the men's side. How they allowed Liang Jingkun, Wang Chuqin, Zhao Qihao and Yu Ziyang to be on one team together still boggles the mind. Thanks would like that team, 2 first team players, one borderline first team player and probably the best lefty...

Going to record the matches some day but it is out a pendulumish sidespin motion. But the topspon ball definitely moves differently but the speed of the motion is hypnotizing and once you push it, he comes in flat if the ball is short so you are pretty much toast.

Usually, the better the player, the more aware they are about the limits of what they claim to know, even when they know a lot. It's not really about the playing level but about why you feel so confident arguing with better players vs understanding their perspective. Better players have already...

My usual advice is to get something like Rozena or Fastarc C1/G1 and use it until you think you know what you are doing. Because I know 2000 level players who have used them profitably, but if you decide you don't like them, you have developed your strokes using something that can support...

There is a guy in my club who has a nasty one but not off the hook serve. The backspin after fake is great and the ball is slow but heavy. And he has an atomic forehand so if you don't do something really active with it, you lose the point to the 3rd ball. Once in a blue moon, I can loop kill...

Probably the wrong person to give advice but for Vegas, all I can advise you to do is graduate! Especially since you are using it on the forehand.

Reference the video subtitles for your claim that the coach is being misrepresented. Not your understanding of the physics. I have quoted the aspects of the subtitles that stated his intent. Stop trying to explain my purported confusion. Quote what the coach said that gives you insight into...

Are there playoffs and if so when?

The relevant subtitles: "Ordinary chiquita is topspin but chiquita swinging sideways, it becomes underspin." There is more commentary that shows that it is difficult to apply the technique to a topspin ball so the technique clearly relies on coming across the bottom of the ball similar to...

Can you please quote the subtitles that support your view given the precise reference I have provided to the video at 4 mins 30 seconds Io 4 mins 40 seconds in and how you are willing to reconcile your position on the intent on blahness and Tony with Coach Meng"s stated intent? Again, this is...

Okay. If you cant read the subtitles, then you can't tell what the video is trying to say unless you speak Japanese so why are you arguing with someone who has read the subtitles and is telling you what the video says in the subtitles? Again this is a separate issue from whether you agree with...

I just gave a clear example. James Z is accusing blahness and Tony of not understanding the video and making up an interpretation that the poster did not intend. https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/producing-side-underspin-on-the-chiquita.31615/post-416959 I just posted to go to 4...

Enjoying the discussion is fine. Does that mean one should lie and troll about the video's intent as well?

At 4 mins 30 seconds in, Coach Meng literally describes his intent is what Blahness and Tony intended (whatever you think of the actual physics). Let's stop this nonsense immediately.

Oh, to me, it was easily one of his best, I can understand the OP. But I also understand other views - some of it is subjective as I really enjoyed the Kanak video and some people would consider that boring. Gauzy also has a special place, using snakes against Adam and showing the difference...