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      Looks like JTTA put an end to Hina Hayata .....
      At ATTС, she was not included in the team ...And that means she will not be included in participation in the WTC....
      (and this is minus 600 points for the previous ...)
      She doesn’t play in pairs in Sweden ...(Ishikawa-Hirano)...
      German Open - it was announced initially, but the application was withdrawn ....
      It's a pity...

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      Why though? Are there rumours of disagreements with the JTTA?

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      Alas .. Until only rumors ..... I do not know the facts .....

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      Quote Originally Posted by Vlad Celler View Post
      Looks like JTTA put an end to Hina Hayata .....
      At ATTС, she was not included in the team ...And that means she will not be included in participation in the WTC....
      (and this is minus 600 points for the previous ...)
      She doesn’t play in pairs in Sweden ...(Ishikawa-Hirano)...
      German Open - it was announced initially, but the application was withdrawn ....
      It's a pity...
      Japan is the host for the TWC, so they don't need to qualify. On top of that, teams, not players, that were top finishers at the previous team events of ATTC(2017) and WTTC(2018) are invited. So, Hayata could play the TWC as long as JTTA picks her.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Vlad Celler View Post
      Looks like JTTA put an end to Hina Hayata .....
      At ATTС, she was not included in the team ...And that means she will not be included in participation in the WTC....
      (and this is minus 600 points for the previous ...)
      She doesn’t play in pairs in Sweden ...(Ishikawa-Hirano)...
      German Open - it was announced initially, but the application was withdrawn ....
      It's a pity...
      Actually, Hayata isn't playing WD in Sweden since she's going to be paired with Harimoto again for Mixed Doubles. Given that Mixed doubles is a separate Olympic event while Women's Doubles isn't, this is actually a good sign for her. As for the German Open, she's not sponsored by JTTA, but I'm 100% sure she's going to voluntarily participate. We just have to wait for ITTF to update Japan's player entries.

      Also, just because you're not on the Asian Champs team doesn't mean you're not going to play the World Team Cup. If you use that logic, Ito also won't be playing the World Team Cup. Remember, the World Team Cup uses the Olympic System with doubles as the first match, which is Hayata's specialty. JTTA even benched Hirano for Hayata in all matches in last year's Team World Cup despite Hirano being clearly better than Hayata at that time. Given how Hayata has improved tremendously since the last Team World Cup in terms of singles ability, it's highly unlikely Hayata won't make the team of 5 players.

      I've never heard of any news that Hayata and JTTA are having any disagreements, and I doubt they do. If that were the case, Mika Baba, the Head Coach of the Women's Team, wouldn't spend so much time coaching Hayata during the Qualification Rounds. To be honest, I don't think there's any beef here, and we just have patiently wait for the full entry list for the rest of the year's events. The real beef is with Chuang Chih Yuan and Taiwan's Table Tennis Association, which was really surprising and came out of nowhere.

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      Very well written! ... Will hope!

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      Harimoto-Hayata are declared XD in Sweden and Germany ....
      Four events they are gaining ....
      But will they be able to enter the TOP-8?
      Good luck to them!

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      It's more than making the top-8. Each association is allowed only 1 pair for the WTGF. Ito/Mizutani stands at 500pts right now. Harimoto/Hayata(163pts) will need to win in Sweden(200pts) and reach the final in Germany(150pts), or reach the SF in Sweden(50pts) and win in Germany(300pts) to stand a chance.

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      Quote Originally Posted by zeio View Post
      It's more than making the top-8. Each association is allowed only 1 pair for the WTGF. Ito/Mizutani stands at 500pts right now. Harimoto/Hayata(163pts) will need to win in Sweden(200pts) and reach the final in Germany(150pts), or reach the SF in Sweden(50pts) and win in Germany(300pts) to stand a chance.
      Ito/Mizutani can also decline the invitation

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      We remember that the first four following the results XD of the Grand Final receive permits in Tokyo 2020 ..
      Ito and Mizutani have already guaranteed participation in Tokyo 2020 ...

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      And then there's this footnote. Ishikawa's prospect of making the team is so grim if she doesn't make the singles. Not looking good for her.

      https://ittf.cdnomega.com/eu/2019/07..._XD_List_2.pdf
      *Any qualified athletes in Mixed Doubles must be part of the team composision if their NOC has qualified a team of that gender.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Takkyu_wa_inochi View Post
      Ito/Mizutani can also decline the invitation
      I wonder if the JNT will let that happen.

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      As the host nation, Japan automatically qualifies for all events (I mean table tennis events, to be specific).

      So they don’t need to get the qualification from WTGF. JNT can send any mix double pair to Olympics if they want, as far as the team members are also the team event players.

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      Only if the host country cannot qualify through the normal means.

      http://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploa...Tennis-eng.pdf
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      4 World Tour Grand Finals 2019 with a maximum of one (1) pair per NOC
      Any qualified athletes in Mixed Doubles must be part of the team composition if their NOC has qualified a team of that gender

      5 World Tour 2020 with a maximum of one (1) pair per NOC

      1 If the Host Country has not qualified a Mixed Doubles pair through the steps above, it is guaranteed one (1) mixed doubles quota place with the athletes being part of the team quota.

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      This is the JNT internal qualification criteria for Tokyo 2020 (in Japanese):
      http://www.jtta.or.jp/Portals/0/imag...mpic_tokyo.pdf

      Point 3 is about mix double. I used Google translate to get the following:

      3. One mixed male and female player
      1.2. Among the three athletes of both male and female representative candidates, one pair of mixed doubles that seems to be the best pair will be determined by the headquarters and reported to the Board of Directors and recommended to the JOC. Japan is guaranteed entry for all events as a venue, and it is not necessary to qualify for qualifying. Therefore, the December 2019 ITTF World Tour Grand Final, which is expected to be a representative of mixed doubles 4th, is not a target event for selection of representative candidates for mixed doubles.
      * Pairs that entered into BEST 4 are not represented by NOCs who belong to NF if they belong to NF.
      It has been confirmed with ITTF that the affiliation NF and the affiliation NOC have final decision-making power.

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      It would be interesting to see the match of Mizutani-Ito vs. Harimoto-Hayata ....

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      https://ittf.cdnomega.com/eu/2019/01...ngs-XD-CZE.pdf
      2019 WT Standings for XD after Czech Open

      Rank Pairing Country Events Points Criteria*
      4 MIZUTANI Jun / ITO Mima JPN 4 500
      13 HARIMOTO Tomokazu / HAYATA Hina JPN 2 163 NE

      14 MORIZONO Masataka / ITO Mima JPN 1 150 NE
      16 HARIMOTO Tomokazu / ISHIKAWA Kasumi JPN 4 139 NE
      18 NIWA Koki / ITO Mima JPN 2 113 NE
      51 YOSHIMURA Maharu / ISHIKAWA Kasumi JPN 1 13 NE

      It's pretty obvious the selections will be b/w the 1st 2.

      Best case scenario for Ishikawa is either WS and WT or just WT.

      For Hayata, it's WT and XD.

      For Ito, it could be WS, WT and XD, or WT and XD.

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      Hilarious development and reaction of the JTTA on the cancellation of T2 China.

      They filed a complaint to the ITTF, citing that "this betrays the trust of the players."

      https://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/2...250001-n1.html
       日本卓球協会の星野一朗専務理事は30日、中国の海口で9月26~29日に行われる予定だった国際卓球連盟(ITTF)公認の賞金大会「T2ダイヤモンド」の第2戦が中止となったことを受け、29日にITTFに対して抗議の文書を送ったことを明らかにした。 T2ダイヤモンドは成績に応じて付与されるポイントが世界ランキングにボーナスとして加算される。来年の東京五輪の日本代表争いにも影響があるため、星野専務理事は開催まで1カ月の段階での中止決定に「選手の信頼を裏切ることになりかねない」と語った。
      And then at the BoD meeting just a few days ago, they added that this would impact their Olympic selection process, but will not intervene.

      https://www.daily.co.jp/general/2019...12679465.shtml
       今月26~29日に中国で開催予定だった国際卓球連盟(ITTF)公認の賞金大会「T2ダイヤモンド」第2戦が中止となったことを受け、日本協会の星野一朗専務理事は7日、都内で行われた日本協会の理事会後に取材に応じ、影響が懸念される東京五輪代表争いに「人為的に(ポイントを)調整することは考えてない」と救済策は設けないことを明かした。日本協会は既にITTFに抗議文を提出している。

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      How long before Hamamoto can play in WTTC or Olympics for Austria?

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      Not sure about WTTC. I heard 2028 the earliest for Olympics.

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