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Thanks for jogging my memory.

I remember the death threats to Harimoto at the Mixed Team World Cup but the mod NextLevel decided to move anything about those death threats/racism into a seperate thread which I disagree with, even Tony and others who commented in that thread disagree as well with the posts being move.

Even though it had nothing to do with the actual matches/outcome of those matches it was still something that happened at the Mixed Team World Cup that should not have been moved to another thread as it was still related to the events that happened at the Mixed Team World Cup.

When CIC experience inappropriate touching at the WTTTC 2026 did the mods move the posts to a different thread, NO but all of the sudden when it’s about racism or the death threats that was directed at the Harimotos the mod, Nextlevel decided to move those posts to a different thread.

This was the reason why Tony was annoyed with the posts being moved and I understand why he was feeling that way.

You beat me to it!
When I saw OP and posts moved, I was like déjà vu.

I think Tony was more upset on why the posts was moved to his thread about Olympics without his approval, than the actual moving of posts. All of his complaints was deleted by mods.

So with all these mod features of moving and deleting posts…. Imagine when it gets into the wrong hands - not saying the mods here are evil, but a lot of content can be fabricated to fit certain narratives.

I guess we all choose to signup to this.

Communication is key here - If someone feels unheard, or if they see something unjust, just message any of us - If you don't like me, message NL or Dan.

Communication is key.

Tony showed posts of him messaging you, Carl and Dan. I know a few of us here saw the screenshots. Did anyone get back to him?

According to Tony’s last message, Dan/Carl would private message him to deescalate or request to move posts or even ask him to start threads on content he shared on Facebook but not on the forum.

In steps new mods and publicly: I am a mod, you must respect me, my authority, private message me (first? and why not the other way round?), or I ban you.

Nextlevel gave his explanations of his actions afterwards.
With a bit more wisdom and deescalation goals, he could of communicated with Tony first, and tell him he is worried about the political aspect and he would like to remove certain posts to keep the peace.

Communication goes both ways.
 
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You beat me to it!
When I saw OP and posts moved, I was like déjà vu.

I think Tony was more upset on why the posts was moved to his thread about Olympics without his approval, than the actual moving of posts. All of his complaints was deleted by mods.

So with all these mod features of moving and deleting posts…. Imagine when it gets into the wrong hands - not saying the mods here are evil, but a lot of content can be fabricated to fit certain narratives.

I guess we all choose to signup to this.



Communication is key.

Tony showed posts of him messaging you, Carl and Dan. I know a few of us here saw the screenshots. Did anyone get back to him?

According to Tony’s last message, Dan/Carl would private message him to deescalate or request to move posts or even ask him to start threads on content he shared on Facebook but not on the forum.

In steps new mods and publicly: I am a mod, you must respect me, my authority, private message me (first? and why not the other way round?), or I ban you.

Nextlevel gave his explanations of his actions afterwards.
With a bit more wisdom and deescalation goals, he could of communicated with Tony first, and tell him he is worried about the political aspect and he would like to remove certain posts to keep the peace.

Communication goes both ways.
Which is exactly what I raised in another thread and guess what? I got threatened by private message in this instance...
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...ry-comments-fit-to-be-a-mod.38427/post-552556

p.s.
And here is pongfugrasshopper's post and my initial reply, and the ban message...
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...s-2025-cluj-napoca-11-23-30.38203/post-552128
Calling a 13 year old girl useless.... that's pretty low, but I'm not even sure I can say that's a new low for you.
Whoever deleted it, this is a keep for future reference.

You have been banned for the following reason: Obviously, you think you are above moderation.. Your ban will be lifted on Nov 24, 2025 at 1:00 PM.
 
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You beat me to it!
When I saw OP and posts moved, I was like déjà vu.

I think Tony was more upset on why the posts was moved to his thread about Olympics without his approval, than the actual moving of posts. All of his complaints was deleted by mods.

So with all these mod features of moving and deleting posts…. Imagine when it gets into the wrong hands - not saying the mods here are evil, but a lot of content can be fabricated to fit certain narratives.

I guess we all choose to signup to this.



Communication is key.

Tony showed posts of him messaging you, Carl and Dan. I know a few of us here saw the screenshots. Did anyone get back to him?

According to Tony’s last message, Dan/Carl would private message him to deescalate or request to move posts or even ask him to start threads on content he shared on Facebook but not on the forum.

In steps new mods and publicly: I am a mod, you must respect me, my authority, private message me (first? and why not the other way round?), or I ban you.

Nextlevel gave his explanations of his actions afterwards.
With a bit more wisdom and deescalation goals, he could of communicated with Tony first, and tell him he is worried about the political aspect and he would like to remove certain posts to keep the peace.

Communication goes both ways.
It is interesting how you present Carl's perspective, Carl was one of the closest friends I made on this web board. I will leave it at that.
 
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In steps new mods and publicly: I am a mod, you must respect me, my authority, private message me (first? and why not the other way round?), or I ban you.
This is why I believe things should be discuss publicly so other users can chime in. The mods could easily change the narrative to fit their agenda like the whole Tony situation.

I think Tony was also annoyed about having to message the mods first about any issues or I ban you rule that Nextlevel created but that rule was not even discussed with Dan and Carl beforehand.
 
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Which is exactly what I raised in another thread and guess what? I got threatened by private message in this instance...
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...ry-comments-fit-to-be-a-mod.38427/post-552556

p.s.
And here is pongfugrasshopper's post and my initial reply, and the ban message...
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...s-2025-cluj-napoca-11-23-30.38203/post-552128

Whoever deleted it, this is a keep for future reference.
@pongfugrasshopper deleted his post the first time, either before or after he reported yours (the details elude me). Then you made the post bringing it back the first time,. When I deleted the first post, I said that your post had been reported and was under review. Despite that you reposted it a second time. Maybe you didn't see the message, and if so, it is unfortunate. Though I am confident you did because you added a statement saying "I guess it is clear who is low here" and reposted the same post.. Then I deleted the post again.

In any case, I am not sure this recounting of the past does anything other than make people dig in their heels. Is there a forward path that would make you happy? Would you feel better if I left moderation? OR maybe handled things differently? So in general, what would you like to see done differently, @zeio , to improve moderation? In the spirit of constructive conversation, feel free to make suggestions. Unless this is strictly about settling scores.
 
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This is why I believe things should be discuss publicly so other users can chime in. The mods could easily change the narrative to fit their agenda like the whole Tony situation.
I guess the tide has turned now that it becomes clear what had been happening behind the scene.

I propose NextLevel be removed from the moderation team. He is not fit for the job. The image of the mods has been tarnished.
 
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This is why I believe things should be discuss publicly so other users can chime in. The mods could easily change the narrative to fit their agenda like the whole Tony situation.

I think Tony was also annoyed about having to message the mods first about any issues or I ban you rule that Nextlevel created but that rule was not even discussed with Dan and Carl beforehand.
I really wish you could be a moderator.
 
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I guess the tide has turned now that it becomes clear what had been happening behind the scene.

I propose NextLevel be removed from the moderation team. He is not fit for the job. The image of the mods has been tarnished.
That's a fair proposal - send it to Dan. Are there any other issues you want to bring up since I have presented my side of the issues which you have raised so far?
 
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