Anyone have a sneak peak of Glayzer yet?

[jammmail]

I tested out Glazyer 09c a little bit, and yeah overall it just feels kinda weak. When you watch the ball with your eye, it doesn't necessarily look that slow. But when you hit the ball, it somehow just feels a bit slow to me. A lot of times it seems hard to end a point with the FH power loop. I wonder if it needs booster to perform better. Its listed as 42d hardness, but it just doesn't seem hard at all. It seems softer than that.

Also, some people said that it has a good arc. I didn't find this to be true at all. It has a rather flat arc if anything. The arc is nowhere near like D09c. I found myself aiming my loops upwards much more than normal.

After a few more sessions I totally agree with this. The arc is rather flat and it just doesn't seem that spiny whether hard shots or light contact. I will give it a go on another blade - but Im a bit disappointed with it now.

Glayzer is much better - but again may try it on a different blade - as Im now not sure the PF is the right blade for me atm - think maybe through using viscaria style blades for longer - they are a better fit.

 

[TensorBackhand]

I think that G09c is phenomenal on BH, really good active blocking - if you want power just use more wrist - I think it's not suitable for FH because of its softness

To me its too soft for FH, but nowhere near enough speed and catapult for BH.

I dont see it being a good bh rubber.

 

[Zwill]

I think that G09c is phenomenal on BH, really good active blocking - if you want power just use more wrist - I think it's not suitable for FH because of its softness

Yes, with fast outer carbon blade I think it works really well on BH. For FH it might be a bit too soft, but I wouldn't condemn it. I could live with it but I think passive play is a bit harder with FH if the rubber is very slow like G09c. On BH it's easier to just push a tiny bit even when you are passive with FH for me it's not that automatic.
Actually G09c on an outer ZLC blade is very fast if you hit it a bit harder but it's so slow when you are passive. The scale of speed is incredibly wide from nothing to very very fast. It is a bit misleading when one is passive and waits for the rubber to bounce but instead the ball just dies on it.

 

[longle]

Yes, with fast outer carbon blade I think it works really well on BH. For FH it might be a bit too soft, but I wouldn't condemn it. I could live with it but I think passive play is a bit harder with FH if the rubber is very slow like G09c. On BH it's easier to just push a tiny bit even when you are passive with FH for me it's not that automatic.
Actually G09c on an outer ZLC blade is very fast if you hit it a bit harder but it's so slow when you are passive. The scale of speed is incredibly wide from nothing to very very fast. It is a bit misleading when one is passive and waits for the rubber to bounce but instead the ball just dies on it.

yes you are right, my Dynasty Carbon (a solid blade) suites it very well, but I have to stay active all the time (active blocking and flickring) then G09c shines with its really good control and placement. Otherwise it's a slow rubber on other soft blades

 

[TensorBackhand]

I went ahead and put 1 layer of booster onto G09c. It just seems too slow without it. So im curious to see if its better with booster.

After just 1 layer, it did curl up quite a lot

 

[kapahoo]

Am I the only one who finds G09c fast and hard?
Coming from other "hybrids" (Rakza Z, H 8-80, Joola Tango PS...) and Fastarcs (all of them...) the G09c too me feels very hard and also quite fast. Long arc. But I guess it depends on what you are used to and how you hit the ball.

 

[Kopp]

Do you think Rozena is a better rubber than Glayzer?

 

[jammmail]

I think Glayzer is a better rubber than Rozena (i personally dont like Rozena that much at all) but i think Glayzer09c is not great.

 

[TensorBackhand]

Am I the only one who finds G09c fast and hard?
Coming from other "hybrids" (Rakza Z, H 8-80, Joola Tango PS...) and Fastarcs (all of them...) the G09c too me feels very hard and also quite fast. Long arc. But I guess it depends on what you are used to and how you hit the ball.

I dont think ive heard people say it feels hard or fast

 

[hclnnkhg]

Am I the only one who finds G09c fast and hard?
Coming from other "hybrids" (Rakza Z, H 8-80, Joola Tango PS...) and Fastarcs (all of them...) the G09c too me feels very hard and also quite fast. Long arc. But I guess it depends on what you are used to and how you hit the ball.

It is slower than D09c and K3. It is not faster than common tensors, based on my impression on the receiving end.

 

[Kopp]

May I ask, between Rozena, Glayzer, and G09c, which holds the ball longer? Can the same type of Glayzer rubbers are used on both side of the racket? Which type of Glayzer is better for FH and BH?

 

[TensorBackhand]

It is slower than D09c and K3. It is not faster than common tensors, based on my impression on the receiving end.

I boosted with 1 layer, and will test out today to see if it improves. Hopefully it will be closer to K3 after boosted.

 

[JJ Ng]

I boosted with 1 layer, and will test out today to see if it improves. Hopefully it will be closer to K3 after boosted.

Let us know how it went!

As for Glayzer, I have not gotten my hands on a sheet. All the reviews on YouTube (and there are a ton of reviews) tend to say it is slower and hard to use. Most of these reviewers are used to Tenergy and Dignics so for them Glayzer is a disappointment.

I would probably spend more money on the Rakza series, Fastarc series and Evolution series than on the Glazyers.

 

[TensorBackhand]

I think it actually did improve a little. Maybe slightly faster and whippier.

But still feels a bit soft and mushy

 

[Zwill]

May I ask, between Rozena, Glayzer, and G09c, which holds the ball longer? Can the same type of Glayzer rubbers are used on both side of the racket? Which type of Glayzer is better for FH and BH?

Normal Glayzer holds the ball the longest. It can be used on both sides of course and I would pick it over Rozena. Rozena's topsheet is nowhere as good as Glayzer.
If someone prefers very soft rubbers on both sides then Glayzer makes a ton of sense.
I personally wouldn't use it on FH, but on BH for sure. G09c is very good on both sides.

I like them combined with outer ZLC blade since those blades shoot the ball out and while neither Glayzers are speed monsters they both make good and safe arc and for me they are very easy to use so it's a good combo. I like that I can play with them with full power and relaxed as well.

 

[Wrighty67]

Normal Glayzer holds the ball the longest. It can be used on both sides of course and I would pick it over Rozena. Rozena's topsheet is nowhere as good as Glayzer.
If someone prefers very soft rubbers on both sides then Glayzer makes a ton of sense.
I personally wouldn't use it on FH, but on BH for sure. G09c is very good on both sides.

I like them combined with outer ZLC blade since those blades shoot the ball out and while neither Glayzers are speed monsters they both make good and safe arc and for me they are very easy to use so it's a good combo. I like that I can play with them with full power and relaxed as well.

Normal Glayzer holds the ball the longest. It can be used on both sides of course and I would pick it over Rozena. Rozena's topsheet is nowhere as good as Glayzer.
If someone prefers very soft rubbers on both sides then Glayzer makes a ton of sense.
I personally wouldn't use it on FH, but on BH for sure. G09c is very good on both sides.

I like them combined with outer ZLC blade since those blades shoot the ball out and while neither Glayzers are speed monsters they both make good and safe arc and for me they are very easy to use so it's a good combo. I like that I can play with them with full power and relaxed as well.

what are your thoughts on Glayzer on a Mazunov - typically I’ve played and liked 05fx / 80fx on these blades but have some Glayzer too. Despite being a stiff blade I’ve always enjoyed the feel of this blade a lot.

 

[kapahoo]

It is slower than D09c and K3. It is not faster than common tensors, based on my impression on the receiving end.

Thats the thing. It is not a slow rubber. It is, sort of, like most common rubbers. Slower than some but definitely faster than some as well. But the main commets about it is that it is slow and that is not, imho, an accurate description.

Also, it is definitely a hard rubber. No one can say it is not harder than T05, G-1, most Rakzas, MX-P and all of the most common eurojap-rubbers. The sponge is hard and the top-sheet is definitely not on the soft side.


As far as the comparison with Rozena - G09c is totally different. A lot harder and the topsheet has much more friction. Much more!

 

[hclnnkhg]

Thats the thing. It is not a slow rubber. It is, sort of, like most common rubbers. Slower than some but definitely faster than some as well. But the main commets about it is that it is slow and that is not, imho, an accurate description.

Also, it is definitely a hard rubber. No one can say it is not harder than T05, G-1, most Rakzas, MX-P and all of the most common eurojap-rubbers. The sponge is hard and the top-sheet is definitely not on the soft side.


As far as the comparison with Rozena - G09c is totally different. A lot harder and the topsheet has much more friction. Much more!

Comments on speed, spin, hardness etc. are often subjective and influenced by personal experience and preference. G09C wouldn't be a hard rubber for people who are used to traditional Chinese rubbers, for example, but for you it is "definitely hard".

 

[kapahoo]

Comments on speed, spin, hardness etc. are often subjective and influenced by personal experience and preference. G09C wouldn't be a hard rubber for people who are used to traditional Chinese rubbers, for example, but for you it is "definitely hard".

Of course.

I was just trying to add some nuances to the debate!

Glayzer 09c is still pretty close to Dignics 09c in the overall scheme of things. The differences might be crucial for some though.

 

[Zwill]

what are your thoughts on Glayzer on a Mazunov - typically I’ve played and liked 05fx / 80fx on these blades but have some Glayzer too. Despite being a stiff blade I’ve always enjoyed the feel of this blade a lot.

Hmm, never had a Mazunov only tried a few, I know it's a fast blade by old standards, but not sure if a thick and heavy allwood blade can do what an outer carbon can even if they have the same "passive bounce" (I mean if you just drop a ball on it).
Even innerforce blades eat the ball a lot and I am not sure if it's beneficial for the Glayzer series.
The Glayzers would be suitable for someone who wants a lighter setup which should be a challenge with the Mazunov blades as all the ones I held were 95+ gram bricks.
I can't comment too much as I don't like allwood blades and I only tried a few for testing and I always realize I am addicted to carbon.

I can imagine the Glayzers would fit well with a Zhang Jike Tamca, or Boll Tamca, maybe Carbonado 290 or as @longle uses with the Xu Xin blade. Or just with outer ZLC, but even among those I think ZLC and koto outer ply is especially nice with it.