Best Chinese sticky rubbers that don't need boosting

[Scarfed Garchomp]

I tried Battle 3 Purple in 41.5 hardness a few weeks ago. Don't get it, it's terrible. When I opened the packaging there was a huge reverse dome, it took 2 layers of booster to even make it flat. I put it on a thick 5-ply penhold and played with it for an hour. It was pretty fast but could not create good spin. It felt like it had too little grip to loop backspin balls comfortably, I didn't like it as it gave me no confidence in any of my shots. Finally when I was taking it off the blade the sponge ripped almost immediately. Do not recommend, even the regular B3 felt better.

I think its a good rubber, but I have the 39 degree on a 980XX (flexible 5 ply wood). Writing off a rubber because you couldn't adjust to it after an hour seems hasty to me, I'd probably have the same experience playing an extra hard Chinese style rubber on a stiff blade. What blade did you try it on?

 

[Coolsta Connor]

Is very light for 52 degrees hardness, so I expect it to be slower. I am reading bad reviews for another high-thickness rubber, Apollo II. But let's see, I will test TUTTLE 25 this weekend.

It takes a very long time to break in, but is a great rubber

 

[belllfador]

It takes a very long time to break in, but is a great rubber

Usually, I manually press the rubber multiple times or use massage gun, before glueing to the blade. Most of the rubbers become a little more alive and responsive. For the TUTTLE 25 I can say that is not bad rubber and something different from a typical chinese stuff that we are flooded. I boost small peace with 1 layer FP and that results in permanent dome. If the rubber is not cleaned, sweat fingerprints leaves permanent marks on the surface.

 

[Coolsta Connor]

Usually, I manually press the rubber multiple times or use massage gun, before glueing to the blade. Most of the rubbers become a little more alive and responsive. For the TUTTLE 25 I can say that is not bad rubber and something different from a typical chinese stuff that we are flooded. I boost small peace with 1 layer FP and that results in permanent dome. If the rubber is not cleaned, sweat fingerprints leaves permanent marks on the surface.

My friend is currently trying TUTTLE 25 and 27 as we speak, so its ironic you bring this up (it arrived yesterday). Interesting method with the massage gun, and I'd love to hear more about it with theory and whatever! What sort of massage gun is it, do you think it tensions it or something? When I wrote my comment I was initially referring to Apollo 2 for long time to break in, stock is hard to find now. Based off my friend's review it is like a Tacky Zyre. I have 2x of A2, I have seen both good and poor sheet quality, it depends which supplier you buy from. If the rubber is tight in the packaging not moving much it is high quality, otherwise it may be poor. Yinhe has said that they are in the works right now to reproduce something similar in the future. Also, what is FP the booster you use? Falco Platinum?

 

[belllfador]

My friend is currently trying TUTTLE 25 and 27 as we speak, so its ironic you bring this up (it arrived yesterday). Interesting method with the massage gun, and I'd love to hear more about it with theory and whatever! What sort of massage gun is it, do you think it tensions it or something? When I wrote my comment I was initially referring to Apollo 2 for long time to break in, stock is hard to find now. Based off my friend's review it is like a Tacky Zyre. I have 2x of A2, I have seen both good and poor sheet quality, it depends which supplier you buy from. If the rubber is tight in the packaging not moving much it is high quality, otherwise it may be poor. Yinhe has said that they are in the works right now to reproduce something similar in the future. Also, what is FP the booster you use? Falco Platinum?

Yes, FP is falco platinum. The massage gun is the cheapest one with cushioning ball attachment. I use a sheet of 729 super to cover the surface of the new rubber. I put the stack between 2 sheets of cooking paper and pressed with the massage gun most of the surface, from the sponge side. Sometimes I measure 1-2 degrees softening of the sponge, but most of the change is in the reducing of sponge damping, or energy loss during rebound. In the past, I used TT ball pierced by a screwdriver and rolled the ball on the rubber surface, with applied pressure.

TUTTLE 25 is tacky and can lift the ball, but I don't think it is as fast as Zyre or has similar durability. Even, I would be impressed if it was playable after 20 hours. But it is fun, with very good spin and speed for chinese rubber.