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Do you know how heavy your IF ALC is? I have 4 of them, one is 85grams while the other three are over 90grams. The 85 gram one has terrible feeling. I was wondering if weight and quality of wood are correlated

I don't have a precise number - the guy who gave it to me claims it is light, but the setup feels heavy to be honest. I would be surprised if it wasn't 88g but I could be wrong. It could definitely be 82g as Karis M+ is no featherweight.
 
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Lately I've been working on relaxing my upper body more in my swings, and swinging my arm later into the swing, and my body earlier.

I've basically been forcing it. Just trying to be more relax and consciously doing hours of shadows until I could somewhat swing more properly, then trying to force it in games.

My shot quality is the exact same, but I have more consistency. For two days now I haven't missed a shot because of death-grip tensing, while it was common before.

I think I am on average slightly more relaxed and let the arm come in a bit later, so maybe it's working. It feels very unnatural to let the arm come in so late, and it feels like I'm generating less power, but the power is the exact same, and it's very easy on the body. It's like I could fall asleep during some of my swings compared to how much energy I am used to using. :p
 
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Hello Jeff,

Hopefully all your exams went well and good to hear that you have the time to play again :)

About the injury, I don't know the medical term for it, but I can imagine that the sharp edges of the blade contribute to that. To prevent this to happen in the future, I think sanding the edges of the blade could be a good idea. A round edge where your index finger goes over the blade, I think that would be more comfortable and less sensitive for injuries. I think Xu Xin's blade also has rounded edges, but I'm not entirely sure if it was him.

I know that this won't get your current injury healed faster, but it might be something you want to consider for in the future.

Thanks Jirrex. It certainly was good to have the time to do what I like now, except interrupted by the finger, which is kind of annoying. I have sanded the edge before, but I guess it was not good enough. I will try to make it more rounded.
The other thing is I don't know if it is healed now, or if it will heal, whether the 'bump' will go away.
I think the difficult thing is do I keep waiting for it to go away, (even though personally I couldn't see much difference in the look of it 3 weeks ago comparing to now, and it was not hot most of the time that I can recall), or do I try to make do with what it is now, and try play table tennis with it, (and make whatever compromise it may take).

I think this is spot on and pretty much what I would have said. I have similar issues when my very large index finger wraps around some blades. IT might also be in part grip pressure and some people just change their grip if the sanding doesn't make it better. Some people also carve things into their blade to ease the finger placement.

Thanks NextLevel. I would prefer not to have to change too much, but if it really doesn't work, I may have to. When I was really saddened by it, I even thought of changing to shakehand grip. Coming to think of it, that may not be a bad idea, as I will have alot more blades available for me to choose from :p But I do prefer to stay with my current grip, without much alteration if possible.
 
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The other thing is I don't know if it is healed now, or if it will heal, whether the 'bump' will go away.

Is the bump a callus? From my oldschool grip, i have 2 noticeable bumps on my middle finger and my thumb. One more, but it's just rough skin with no bumps on my index finger. I only have the rough skin on that finger because I didn't sand the wings by the handle on the current blade sooner.

IDK if the modern grip will result in any callus at all ... just a thought.

Good luck with exam grades and finger recovery!

p.s. if you change to SH, you have to handicap me 10 pts ;-)
 
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BTW guys, I beat Big M for the first time in over a year with the IF ALC. Those Nexy blades have work to do.

You may also want to look at Tibhar Inca designed by Nexy. I am pretty sure I am thinking of the right one. If I am, it has a Hinoki top ply with ALC and burnt wood core for extra feeling. When you try the Oscar, I can bring the Inca too. It feels way better in my hand and has more feeling than the Oscar and is a little slower.

But IF ALC is pretty nice. Hard to argue with that blade choice.


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I behaved embarrassingly after this match - I almost wanted to go home and not play again that night... Very immature...

Congratulations on your win over Big M! It's understandable as to your behavior and I'm sure he understands as well. But yeah, that was a lot of CHO'ing :)
 
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Congratulations on your win over Big M! It's understandable as to your behavior and I'm sure he understands as well. But yeah, that was a lot of CHO'ing :)

Choing in a tight match is part of life - no apologies for that. I actually declined to play my next opponent initially after the match. Then I came to my senses and played my matches.
 
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Jeff, I am going to go straight to the issue: You bruised the bone in the actual joint. That is NOT A CALLUS. The swelling, the bump, is what the bone does when it gets banged enough in that area right at the joint.

The good news is that it will go away. The bad news is, it will take several more months. Could be 6 to 12 months depending on how badly you irritated the area.

While the bump is like that, even if it feels better, continued banging of that very small area will make it worse fairly quickly. And as you repeat it, until the bump is gone, it will get worse than before, each new time you aggravate it.

The sanding of the edge information was correct. But the degree of sanding is what you may be missing.

Where your finger is on the FH side of the blade, you need to sand that down almost all the way to the Carbon on the BH side of your blade so that your index finger is on a completely flat surface that is the same angle as the angle of your index finger in your photo.

That will help AFTER THE BONE HAS HEALED. However, for the next 6 months, my recommendation is to get a shakehand blade and learn to play shakehand for a while. Doing that will ultimately help your penhold game improve anyway. But that will allow you to play and it risk making the injury worse.

Otherwise my recommendation would be, don't play for 3-9 months (until the bump is FULLY GONE).

As of now, the injury is not serious. But if you keep re-aggravating the injury, at some point it will be.


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Is the bump a callus? From my oldschool grip, i have 2 noticeable bumps on my middle finger and my thumb. One more, but it's just rough skin with no bumps on my index finger. I only have the rough skin on that finger because I didn't sand the wings by the handle on the current blade sooner.

IDK if the modern grip will result in any callus at all ... just a thought.

Good luck with exam grades and finger recovery!

p.s. if you change to SH, you have to handicap me 10 pts ;-)

Thanks OSP! It isn't a callus, it is more like soft tissue. I don't know what exactly is damaged, or how, but from its location, it seems like one of the collateral ligament. I can't exactly understand why it happens at this time as opposed to any time previously. I have spent a good amount of time sending it tonight.

Haha not sure about the handicap!
 
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Choing in a tight match is part of life - no apologies for that. I actually declined to play my next opponent initially after the match. Then I came to my senses and played my matches.

OIC, I misunderstood. But great you played your next opponent!
 
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Jeff, I am going to go straight to the issue: You bruised the bone in the actual joint. That is NOT A CALLUS. The swelling, the bump, is what the bone does when it gets banged enough in that area right at the joint.

The good news is that it will go away. The bad news is, it will take several more months. Could be 6 to 12 months depending on how badly you irritated the area.

While the bump is like that, even if it feels better, continued banging of that very small area will make it worse fairly quickly. And as you repeat it, until the bump is gone, it will get worse than before, each new time you aggravate it.

The sanding of the edge information was correct. But the degree of sanding is what you may be missing.

Where your finger is on the FH side of the blade, you need to sand that down almost all the way to the Carbon on the BH side of your blade so that your index finger is on a completely flat surface that is the same angle as the angle of your index finger in your photo.

That will help AFTER THE BONE HAS HEALED. However, for the next 6 months, my recommendation is to get a shakehand blade and learn to play shakehand for a while. Doing that will ultimately help your penhold game improve anyway. But that will allow you to play and it risk making the injury worse.

Otherwise my recommendation would be, don't play for 3-9 months (until the bump is FULLY GONE).

As of now, the injury is not serious. But if you keep re-aggravating the injury, at some point it will be.


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Thanks Carl! That is hard to accept all of a sudden, but if that is the case, I will do what it takes for it to heal.
Maybe I will take the time to learn shakehand then :)

Thanks for shedding light on this matter for me. I have asked multiple people and none has been able to pinpoint it as clearly as you.
 
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I know, but my club mates don't care about it and it's a practice match. In tourneys I play with another shirt :)

I suggest you do a test. Get a few of your friends to wear a white shirt when you play then. See if it affects your play at all.

Sometimes, friends won't complain about something like that even if it bothers them. But if someone changing the score in their favor or calling a ball that was out an edge ball in their favor or the other way against you ever gets under your skin a little, you could be trying the patience of your friends without even realizing it.


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BTW guys, I beat Big M for the first time in over a year with the IF ALC. Those Nexy blades have work to do.
My Hanibal sword is mightier... try for self. You should have it today. You can also block em down and Smash em off da table with Kanaph.

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I behaved embarrassingly after this match - I almost wanted to go home and not play again that night... Very immature...

That was pretty tame mild mannered Choing.

I rarely Cho either, but down 1-2 in the 5th, I dug deep for sum loud Korean Cho series, the I did on PP holic in Flushing.

You should a seen it live.

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Regarding Jeff's finger...I am a penholder and for some years had a sore contact point on my forefinger, not exactly the same as yours, but I believe a slight change in grip will do much for you. Your grip seems tightly "choked" against the actual blade. For me when I loosened my grip slightly to point the angle of the bat more away from me rather than down, it served to move me slightly up the handle and "voila" no more sore contact point. Interestingly, it made my forehand stroke more dangerous too!
 
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