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Make sure arm and hand are relaxed with 2 fingers grip pressure.
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Just slowed the ball down and tried to use a smaller motion. Sometimes the ball still comes out of the robot a little faster and I rush, but not anywhere near as often.
Just slowed the ball down and tried to use a smaller motion. Sometimes the ball still comes out of the robot a little faster and I rush, but not anywhere near as often.
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Hmmmm…
In this vid you have the robot to send the ball out a little slower... and it is BARELY going over net, often hitting it... and lands real shallow, then drops to almost table level by the time it reaches you. Ball is already on descent as it gets into your impact zone.
Given that height of the ball as it enters you optimal impact zone, you need to be 6 inches or so lower... because the is entering your zone already low and you are too upright to hit that ball effectively... and given your impact, it wouldn't hurt to let ball come into your impact zone some more. (although it prolly better to move forward and establish the impact zone so that ball enters at right height and depth)
Two ways to cope with such an incoming ball are to get down lower and explode up/forward... or move forward enough so the ball is net height minimum (unless you are gunna take it off bounce or on rise)… and other is to move position forward so ball is better placed in strike zone.
If you are dead-set on practicing this BH shot 1-2 feet off the table... you oughta set the robot to shoot the ball so it lands deeper... not land extreme shallow.
In a match, an opponent will give you a softer ball (or soft-slow spinny) that lands shallow when you are positioned too far back... such a ball quickly falls down before it arrives to your strike zone... you wanna crush it, but you have no position or leverage and are baited into an error.
You have to deal with this in a match, so setting your robot like that is good, realistic match practice to force you to recognize balls and adapt... but it is not a good way to groove your fundamental stroke vs light topspin.
Another thing to mention is the frequency of balls shooting out from robot is too slow. You have one shoot out... you hit... and are almost unconsciously hitting again before ball shoots out. Too much a pause from the last hit... it is an un-natural cadence too slow for matches or training... you have robot set to shoot one ball every 3 seconds... if you want to slow it down, have robot shoot out a ball every 1.5 seconds and see how that works.
In this vid you have the robot to send the ball out a little slower... and it is BARELY going over net, often hitting it... and lands real shallow, then drops to almost table level by the time it reaches you. Ball is already on descent as it gets into your impact zone.
Given that height of the ball as it enters you optimal impact zone, you need to be 6 inches or so lower... because the is entering your zone already low and you are too upright to hit that ball effectively... and given your impact, it wouldn't hurt to let ball come into your impact zone some more. (although it prolly better to move forward and establish the impact zone so that ball enters at right height and depth)
Two ways to cope with such an incoming ball are to get down lower and explode up/forward... or move forward enough so the ball is net height minimum (unless you are gunna take it off bounce or on rise)… and other is to move position forward so ball is better placed in strike zone.
If you are dead-set on practicing this BH shot 1-2 feet off the table... you oughta set the robot to shoot the ball so it lands deeper... not land extreme shallow.
In a match, an opponent will give you a softer ball (or soft-slow spinny) that lands shallow when you are positioned too far back... such a ball quickly falls down before it arrives to your strike zone... you wanna crush it, but you have no position or leverage and are baited into an error.
You have to deal with this in a match, so setting your robot like that is good, realistic match practice to force you to recognize balls and adapt... but it is not a good way to groove your fundamental stroke vs light topspin.
Another thing to mention is the frequency of balls shooting out from robot is too slow. You have one shoot out... you hit... and are almost unconsciously hitting again before ball shoots out. Too much a pause from the last hit... it is an un-natural cadence too slow for matches or training... you have robot set to shoot one ball every 3 seconds... if you want to slow it down, have robot shoot out a ball every 1.5 seconds and see how that works.
I think you are doing progress! Well Done!
I feel that everyone that give you advice focus on different things so it must be difficult to know What to listen to. I think you need to try for yourself. I also think you should try to look at good players how they are doing and try to copy.
In my opinion, these are the most important things to focus on
Wait for the ball. Let the ball come to the racket first then Do the shot. You are starting the motion to early. This is the reason why you sometimes miss the ball or hit the edge.
Make the motion even smaller. I think when you are standing so close to the table it Will be difficult to have the time to use the forearm as much as you Do in a real match. Try to Do some balls where you almost just use the wrist. The ball Will be fast But not hard. Try looking at the chinese and japanese how they only Do a small motion close to table. They are the best in the world But Do not have the time to use the forearm AA you Do. If you want to hit hard you need to take a step back so you have more space and then you can use the forearm more to get power.
Have the arm higher so you can hit more forward. You Do still have your arm pretty low and are hitting upwards. Look at the pros how high they are having the racket and the arm against topspin. They Do this because they lose time if they have the arm low and because they can have the racket higher since it already is spin in the ball. They want more power and get this But having the racket high and hit forward. By hitting upward like you are doing you only get arch on the ball But No real power. So try liftning up the arm higher for some balls. You can also try to close the angle even more. With so close angle you need to hit on top of the ball and Do the motion forward to be able to hit the ball otherwise you Will miss it. Not really sure about the angle But in theory it should work i think haha.
And again, try looking at videos of how pros play backhand close to the table against topspin and i think you Will see What i am mentioning above. It would also be good for you to get a mental picture how the shot should look like.
Good look and keep posting your progress! And i like that you wear a shirt in this video haha
I feel that everyone that give you advice focus on different things so it must be difficult to know What to listen to. I think you need to try for yourself. I also think you should try to look at good players how they are doing and try to copy.
In my opinion, these are the most important things to focus on
Wait for the ball. Let the ball come to the racket first then Do the shot. You are starting the motion to early. This is the reason why you sometimes miss the ball or hit the edge.
Make the motion even smaller. I think when you are standing so close to the table it Will be difficult to have the time to use the forearm as much as you Do in a real match. Try to Do some balls where you almost just use the wrist. The ball Will be fast But not hard. Try looking at the chinese and japanese how they only Do a small motion close to table. They are the best in the world But Do not have the time to use the forearm AA you Do. If you want to hit hard you need to take a step back so you have more space and then you can use the forearm more to get power.
Have the arm higher so you can hit more forward. You Do still have your arm pretty low and are hitting upwards. Look at the pros how high they are having the racket and the arm against topspin. They Do this because they lose time if they have the arm low and because they can have the racket higher since it already is spin in the ball. They want more power and get this But having the racket high and hit forward. By hitting upward like you are doing you only get arch on the ball But No real power. So try liftning up the arm higher for some balls. You can also try to close the angle even more. With so close angle you need to hit on top of the ball and Do the motion forward to be able to hit the ball otherwise you Will miss it. Not really sure about the angle But in theory it should work i think haha.
And again, try looking at videos of how pros play backhand close to the table against topspin and i think you Will see What i am mentioning above. It would also be good for you to get a mental picture how the shot should look like.
Good look and keep posting your progress! And i like that you wear a shirt in this video haha
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Again, the stroke is level appropriate. It is better than the first video but you don't have a strong spin orientation. The whip motion is still overly controlled. But it is a good start. One of the things we have to accept is that building a stroke requires you to build the muscles and neurons ro use the stroke. So it isn't an overnight process. If you know what to look for in a backhand topspin, you will see the beginnings of the right kind of backswing. But when you can swing the the point the racket starts out pointing towards you, then you will hit the jackpot.
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Judging by what I've seen from Takkyu, I think he may have been joking. No shame here at all and no offense taken
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Judging by what I've seen from Takkyu, I think he may have been joking. No shame here at all and no offense taken
Yeah, that was my first impression. After seeing the message repeated I got less sure about it; probably mistakenly so, and I've been annoyed at times with contemprary overprudeness.
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It happens to the best of us, keyboards seldom do a good job communicating sarcasm, unfortunately. I share your sentiment on the prudeness, though.
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Played yesterday and today on vacation in Atlanta. I am probably around 1900 in level now. My backhand is very close to where it was before I stopped, probably better because I don't have the movement to use my forehand so I sit on the backhand. The forehand is technically a better stroke but I don't have the footwork or health to support it.
There are a couple of Nigerian national team level players coaching in Atlanta. I wanted to work with them but the club didn't allow it since I wasn't a member etc. But I played some handicap matches with the one who was available and went 2-1 in best of 5 with a 7 point handicap.
Also lost 1-3 twice to my 2100+ buddy who has been over 2200 and is currently almost 2200. Beat another guy whose level I don't know but probably 1700-1900.
Will take off till Thursday or Friday to let my body rest and relax. My knees are dying right now.
Merry Christmas!
There are a couple of Nigerian national team level players coaching in Atlanta. I wanted to work with them but the club didn't allow it since I wasn't a member etc. But I played some handicap matches with the one who was available and went 2-1 in best of 5 with a 7 point handicap.
Also lost 1-3 twice to my 2100+ buddy who has been over 2200 and is currently almost 2200. Beat another guy whose level I don't know but probably 1700-1900.
Will take off till Thursday or Friday to let my body rest and relax. My knees are dying right now.
Merry Christmas!
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Great to hear from you NextLevel , happy to hear you are back on the saddle ... a very merry christmas to you and all TTD troublemakers !
... a very merry christmas to you and all TTD troublemakers !
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NL, Did you run into R. LaRonde over there?
The English guy who ran a club in DC area is now in charge of Triangle TTC.
The English guy who ran a club in DC area is now in charge of Triangle TTC.
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Never been to Triangle TTC in NC. Was at Lucky Shoals and AITTA.
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Merry Christmas TTD chit chatters!
I have attached a video of me training on Christmas as a present.
Tomorrow will be my first time playing at official centre where they have proper flooring, so I am quite excited!
As usual, comments / advice welcomed.
I have attached a video of me training on Christmas as a present.
Tomorrow will be my first time playing at official centre where they have proper flooring, so I am quite excited!
As usual, comments / advice welcomed.
Merry Christmas TTD chit chatters!
I have attached a video of me training on Christmas as a present.
Tomorrow will be my first time playing at official centre where they have proper flooring, so I am quite excited!
As usual, comments / advice welcomed.
What a present! Thank you! I think your technique looks pretty okay if you have only been playing at home.
I like your backhand technique more than your forehand technique. I think your stroke looks well on the backhand, but think you can try to accelerate with the forearm and wrist a little more if you want more speed and spin in the ball. On your forehand i think you can try to extend your arm more and try to relax it a little more. By doing that you will get more power in the ball.
Good luck and keep posting videos!
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you're very consistent on those easy balls, you miss perhaps only something like 4FH and 3BH in the whole video. I've always told you your main problem is not about the quality of your shots but your non-existent footwork that you should fix, and what you're showing in the video doesn't help at all. This 1:44 minute is only good for a warm-up. i'm sure you're not even sweating after that
when i do robot, i'm dead just like when i do multiball
you're very consistent on those easy balls, you miss perhaps only something like 4FH and 3BH in the whole video. I've always told you your main problem is not about the quality of your shots but your non-existent footwork that you should fix, and what you're showing in the video doesn't help at all. This 1:44 minute is only good for a warm-up. i'm sure you're not even sweating after that
when i do robot, i'm dead just like when i do multiball
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Strokes look excellent and the forehand much better than I remember with a better loading of the core and the legs. Keep up the hard work.
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