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ok i watched your video, you got a lot of good comments already but here are mine:
first i believe both of you are about the same level, so you lost on this one, but i think it should be 50/50 between you and him.

i made already the same comment regarding a previous video, but your main problem is your footwork. You are too lazy. Even in your neutral stance, i believe you are not bending your knees enough. Your drive is powerful, when the ball comes directly on you, you hit a good shot, but especially when it goes to your PBH side or you need to pivot you are slow. you really need some footwork drills.

NL said it but your serve and receive game is also one of the things you need to work on. You need a good low short serve. Your backspin long serve was good but the fast flat one was a bit high and not fast enough. your BH serves had good lateral spin but were too high and easy to attack i think this one can be fixed easily, just wait for the ball to be a bit lower to serve.

You had a lot of problems receiving fast long serves to your BH. You have to improve your block normally he leaves the diagonal open but you had problems. When he is serving long with backspin to your BH, given your playing style, you MUST pivot. but you didn't try enough and when you did you were late. This is an obvious weakness and your opponent just did that because he kept getting points out of this tactic.

Against the short serve to your FH from a leftie, here is a tip: try to get to the ball early and hit it softly on the left side with sidespin aiming to make the ball go on the right short side of the table ! that is a good tactic. of course good players expect you to do that and its easy not to put enough sidespin so the ball would be rather easy for them, but its a good trick to have.

As mentioned by OSP, you lost nearly all pushing rallies. First if you want to improve as a player, you should NOT get involved in these rallies, and after 1 push max, you should be attacking. That being said, you should be confident enough in your push to win these pushing rallies if the opponent never attacks first. His pushing technique was far better than yours. His push has more backspin and is longer than yours. You have to work on it; and work on attacking backspin. Try first with pivot/FH.

Lastly, when you attack with your FH, you always try to go with 90-100% power. thats not good, because even if its on the table, you expose yourself to a fast block. and because in many situations it decreases your consistency. Attack with more spin but 70-80% power and work on the placement. I'm not saying do it on EVERY ball, but if you mix it, its much more difficult for your opponent as he has to adjust for the amount of speed and spin.

BTW your opponent was also going with 90-100% power all the time. I think he was playing a more simple game than yours, but did it with more consistency. His pushing technique was better than yours. His tactics were perfect against you. I wouldn't say that he is necessarily a better player. I think for example your drive has more spin and power, he plays overall with less spin than you.

I hope its helpful for you
 
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Thank you so much for the feedback OSP and Takkyu wa inochi! Very good points. I will take them all into consideration. You are right. I lost my confidence as I couldn't loop the backspin consistently, and I also lost some faith in myself as I didn't get to play as often as before which did affect my form. I will be playing him again this Saturday (tomorrow) and will try to be more confident with looping (even if it fails). I also noticed that I am not doing as much slow spinny loops, and I will try get that into my game as opposed to the fast killer loops which looks nice but don't really work well for me as I lack consistency.
The tip with receiving the short serve in my Fh side, I will see if I can implement. But yes, I do seem to have my mindset on playing a rightie, so I'll try to play more of my shots to his bh with occasionally a Fh side. He has a medium pips on his back side but he doesn't play rpb

P.s., what is si gai, yau lok OSP?
 
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Generally if I push, I won't push past 5th or 6th ball, however because I get into a pushing match I generally rush myself to attack which is not ideal

If I push past 6 balls it is because I'm tired and when I push, I don't know how to describe it, there are times I could feel/see that I can push on an extreme angle which partner didn't expect and I am mentally ready to attack his return if he gets it to return, usually the extreme angle puts him out of position

My feeling is don't push just to push, angle it and put partner out of position to facilitate your attack should he be able to return your angled push ... you are angling to maneuver him out of position, make him move, you may catch him flat-footed

If you don't angle your push, be sure you are putting heavy backspin or make him think you did
 
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LOL at Der! Nope!! Your heart is the biggest!

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Could've used some help from the rest of the Goon squad tonight. I got to SPIN, enemy goons had a mission going on. SPIN was closed off from an unauthorized goon spy like me. They posted a BIG goon on sentry duty. He eyed me funny as I was doing some pivot drills and footwork drills outside on the street.


Carl arrived and we reconvened our goon squad sortie to Barnes and Noble. .. advice: seek a doctor/ortho/physical therapist :( as I expected.

Great to catch up with you Carl tonight. Thank you for your advice and tips/drills!
 
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What is everyone's favorite shot to perform in table tennis?

Not your point winner, not your most effective shot: your favorite shot.

It'd have to be lobbing and blocking against opponents who hit very hard. Perhaps with an edge to lobbing.

Whenever I get to play in a space with a high roof, I lob as high as I can. I even lob in my normal venue, with the relatively low ceiling.

There's just something about it that's so fun.
 
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What is everyone's favorite shot to perform in table tennis?

Not your point winner, not your most effective shot: your favorite shot.

It'd have to be lobbing and blocking against opponents who hit very hard. Perhaps with an edge to lobbing.

Whenever I get to play in a space with a high roof, I lob as high as I can. I even lob in my normal venue, with the relatively low ceiling.

There's just something about it that's so fun.


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What is everyone's favorite shot to perform in table tennis?

Not your point winner, not your most effective shot: your favorite shot.

It'd have to be lobbing and blocking against opponents who hit very hard. Perhaps with an edge to lobbing.

Whenever I get to play in a space with a high roof, I lob as high as I can. I even lob in my normal venue, with the relatively low ceiling.

There's just something about it that's so fun.

Behind-the-back shot.... It has become a bad habit since I entered STIGA trick shot 2014.

Looks good when I pull it off though!

Either that or a BH flick from FH out wide to the opponents FH, like ZJK did to ML at 10-10 In the final set of the World Cup 2014 :) Not always effective, but really fun to do!
 
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Whenever I get to play in a space with a high roof, I lob as high as I can. I even lob in my normal venue, with the relatively low ceiling.

There's just something about it that's so fun.

Maybe we can call you Jun Archotani! Or Michosaurus Maze!
 
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Maybe we can call you Jun Archotani! Or Michosaurus Maze!
Hah, maybe. I've taken a real liking to trickshots and strange, very whippy strokes. Wholly ineffective in a real situation right now: but really fun to try. I'm trying to learn Maze's strange backhand shot, I'm not sure what to call it.




Comparing me to Jun or Michael probably isn't correct: I'm not too sure if I've ever lobbed against anyone who can really spin the ball up! I'm not sure what'd happen then...
 
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What is everyone's favorite shot to perform in table tennis?

Not your point winner, not your most effective shot: your favorite shot.

It'd have to be lobbing and blocking against opponents who hit very hard. Perhaps with an edge to lobbing.

Whenever I get to play in a space with a high roof, I lob as high as I can. I even lob in my normal venue, with the relatively low ceiling.

There's just something about it that's so fun.

4th ball counterloop off the bounce. I do it so rarely that when I do it, I know I am making progress with looping topspin.
 
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Hah, maybe. I've taken a real liking to trickshots and strange, very whippy strokes. Wholly ineffective in a real situation right now: but really fun to try. I'm trying to learn Maze's strange backhand shot, I'm not sure what to call it.




Comparing me to Jun or Michael probably isn't correct: I'm not too sure if I've ever lobbed against anyone who can really spin the ball up! I'm not sure what'd happen then...

You mean the round-the-net shots Maze did vs Christian Suss? Yeh, they are awesome! :)

He really was something special to watch...
 
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my "special" is my BH smash. usually i would have time to use my FH, but i just prefer to be lazy and hit with my BH smash to kill an easy ball. Its more spectacular if I use it in a FH to FH rally where i'm pushed far on the right of the table, and i have no time to get the next ball a little bit more left with my FH. Then if I feel confident, i would try this BH smash down the line (to the opponents BH). When I'm well placed i quite often hit a winner like this and I like to see my opponent looking at me strangely...

Whats even more fun is when he thinks its by chance and i do it another time later...

Of course its not very good TT, and the best is to have the footwork and get all those balls with FH...
 
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I don't even think I am at the stage where I notice that :confused:...

I'm sure you are, I have seen videos of you playing! You may just not have thought about it before :)

When you hit a nice counter-loop, it sounds nice when the ball connects with the rubber. You can tell a good connection from a bad connection, listen out for it next time you whip a counter past someone :)
 
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Generally if I push, I won't push past 5th or 6th ball, however because I get into a pushing match I generally rush myself to attack which is not ideal

If I push past 6 balls it is because I'm tired and when I push, I don't know how to describe it, there are times I could feel/see that I can push on an extreme angle which partner didn't expect and I am mentally ready to attack his return if he gets it to return, usually the extreme angle puts him out of position

My feeling is don't push just to push, angle it and put partner out of position to facilitate your attack should he be able to return your angled push ... you are angling to maneuver him out of position, make him move, you may catch him flat-footed

If you don't angle your push, be sure you are putting heavy backspin or make him think you did

Thanks for the advice OSP! I will do it tomorrow and let you guys know how it goes.

I forgot to address a point you made in the last post. I am definitely not 2 levels above you! Perhaps a level below you. So I will ask for 9 points when we meet in the future :p
 
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What is everyone's favorite shot to perform in table tennis?

Not your point winner, not your most effective shot: your favorite shot.

It'd have to be lobbing and blocking against opponents who hit very hard. Perhaps with an edge to lobbing.

Whenever I get to play in a space with a high roof, I lob as high as I can. I even lob in my normal venue, with the relatively low ceiling.

There's just something about it that's so fun.

A bit similar to NL's favourite, mine is when I counter loop a heavy slow topspin ball that was generated from a backspin chop. But I think I have only successfully done it not in match situations less than 10 times in my whole life.
Probably something to look forward to in the future if I get to train more.
 
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