DHS fans unite!

[longle]

how many times have you boosted a single sheet of H3?

This is my first go around with a sheet of H3N. This is what I did:

Played with the rubber unboosted for approx 2-3 weeks. Then I boosted with 2 layers of seamoon and 2 layers of DHS #15.

Then i played with that rubber for nearly 7 months. last week i noticed a lot of my shots just went into the net that really shouldn't be.

So over this last weekend, I boosted with one layer of seamoon and layer of DHS #15. Played last night and that thing felt basically brand new.

the haifu national black which I use can last 2-3 weeks, but I just like regluing - reboosting because it is fun actually I do the process weekly but with other rubbers to try new combos, not just a single H3 sheet

 

[Jslick89]

the haifu national black which I use can last 2-3 weeks, but I just like regluing - reboosting every week because it is fun

That is awesome lol. I heard that too much booster can make the rubber mushy though? You don't experience this?

also, how to you line the rubber up again after reboosting? i messed up replacing the rubber back on my paddle and i had to peel off and reglue and reline it back up. still didn't get it perfect the second time but it was good enough to play.

 

[longle]

That is awesome lol. I heard that too much booster can make the rubber mushy though? You don't experience this?

also, how to you line the rubber up again after reboosting? i messed up replacing the rubber back on my paddle and i had to peel off and reglue and reline it back up. still didn't get it perfect the second time but it was good enough to play.

sorry I edited my comment, I also do boosting with other rubbers too, not just the H3 sheets which I mainly use.

But even if I reboost it weekly it won't become mushy because unlike other boosters, the Haifu National Black won't soften your sponge and it lose its effect very quickly after you peel off the rubber.

So at the end of the week, I peel of my two H3s and usually see they curves inward, then I can apply a new layer of haifu and reglue it for the next week ( I only apply one layer to make it slightly curves outward, so it's easy to reglue)

 

[job59]

H3 Provincial BS can be bought for around 36€ (around 43€ incl. 19% import sales tax) 1) 2) Haifu Seamoon for around 15€ (homemade booster would be even cheaper and is sufficient for my liking and longer lasting)
Never played with D09C but say its topsheet is twice as durable as the one on my Glayzer 09C (<= 30 hours before the grip in the main hitting area was too low) than that's still less than what I get from my H3s. Usually the provincials are used for matches only and a bit training to break them in. When I think they are not good enough for league matches they get "degraded" to training rubbers 3) that can be used for many months (maybe up to half a year) incl. reboosting etc.
D09C is 79.90€ vs maybe 44€ incl. booster for H3 BS... can't remember how many rubbers I can (re)boost with one Seamoon bottle (H3 37 for BH needs a bit more booster )

1) https://tt-japan.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_2&products_id=4398
2) https://www.prott.vip/Product-Details.aspx?productcode=NEOH3provincialblue
3)

mine usually do not bubble like this but that's still OK for practicing

I got astonished after following the links. For me, it was a fact, that H3 prov is available with 2.1 mm only ... 2.15 was commercial. Hm. 🤔

 

[Zwill]

I killed my 2nd Battle 3 just today. Ok, this one was old, 1 year old but I didn't use it that much but I guess it didn't like being boosted too many times even if it happened with big intervals between. So yeah bubble again. One of my eyes is crying the other is not.

On Saturday I'm going to China for a few weeks for some holiday (and playing with good players) and I sure as hell glad it didn't happen there. I suppose it's not the most difficult thing to get Seamoon and H3 or B3 or whatever in Tier 1 cities, but I don't wanna waste my time with brushing Seamoon on rubbers.

So I will just boost up an older H3N 40deg commercial orange and a H3N 40deg prov blue sponge and glue the BS on the Stiga Inspira and glue the OS on ZQ90. The Stiga has a Glayzer on BH the ZQ90 a Vega Asia I can play both and both are light so if one bubbles up then still have a backup racket that's similar enough.
Kinda wonder how the H3 will be after B3, it's been a bit too long since I used H3. I also wonder how the BS will hold up. The OS is normally more durable.

I fear I have to do the same as what Chinese are doing. Add a layer of glue first, then booster, booster, then glue again. Maybe the glue does protect the topsheet from coming off from the sponge.

 

[Zwill]

Heeey, I'm so happy with my 40deg H3 BS on the Stiga Wang Manyu... It's light, it's fast, it's stable as heck, it's spinny... Awwwwwww it's really lovely.
3 layers of thin as heck regular Seamoon did the job so well but my blade is so well working with it too.
I knew it from the first time hitting against my teammate's Spinlord Gipfelsturm that this will be all lovey-dovey for me. I really hate playing against Gipfelsturm that medium pips is nasty. It's tacky on lighter hits so can spin "normally" but after a certain force it turns into an anti.
With G09c I need to compensate a lot by pulling my arm upwards, with B3 I had to do much less so B3 is much more stable than G09c, but H3 BS was just like it doesn't give 2 poops. So dang...
Also H3 BS boosted @ 46 grams? That is featherweight and for sure these newer H3 provincials are not uber tacky but the topsheet is still amazing quality.

The best part is that it sounds so pleasant. When I hit flat or loop or drive it sounds very pleasant. No metallic sounds whatsoever but that is also because of the Stiga Wang Manyu blade eating the ball so well.

Overall with Glayzer on BH side I'm at 186g which is pretty sweet with a 89-90g blade.
Actually Glayzer feels so bouncy now it reminds me of Dignics 64. This Glayzer that I have on BH is pretty crazy. But the balls it outputs are very high level too just a bit difficult to manage sometimes like D64 was. I don't even like to say too bouncy, but it is so elastic that it's hard to manage. On harder shots the topsheet kicks so much that it overshoots for me a lot. I feel I need to be more brave and hit harder so I can make the ball even more high quality.

I hope DHS BS will last me for a while. 2-3 months would be acceptable.

 

[JJ Ng]

Heeey, I'm so happy with my 40deg H3 BS on the Stiga Wang Manyu... It's light, it's fast, it's stable as heck, it's spinny... Awwwwwww it's really lovely.
3 layers of thin as heck regular Seamoon did the job so well but my blade is so well working with it too.
I knew it from the first time hitting against my teammate's Spinlord Gipfelsturm that this will be all lovey-dovey for me. I really hate playing against Gipfelsturm that medium pips is nasty. It's tacky on lighter hits so can spin "normally" but after a certain force it turns into an anti.
With G09c I need to compensate a lot by pulling my arm upwards, with B3 I had to do much less so B3 is much more stable than G09c, but H3 BS was just like it doesn't give 2 poops. So dang...
Also H3 BS boosted @ 46 grams? That is featherweight and for sure these newer H3 provincials are not uber tacky but the topsheet is still amazing quality.

The best part is that it sounds so pleasant. When I hit flat or loop or drive it sounds very pleasant. No metallic sounds whatsoever but that is also because of the Stiga Wang Manyu blade eating the ball so well.

Overall with Glayzer on BH side I'm at 186g which is pretty sweet with a 89-90g blade.
Actually Glayzer feels so bouncy now it reminds me of Dignics 64. This Glayzer that I have on BH is pretty crazy. But the balls it outputs are very high level too just a bit difficult to manage sometimes like D64 was. I don't even like to say too bouncy, but it is so elastic that it's hard to manage. On harder shots the topsheet kicks so much that it overshoots for me a lot. I feel I need to be more brave and hit harder so I can make the ball even more high quality.

I hope DHS BS will last me for a while. 2-3 months would be acceptable.

Congrats! Welcome to the world of Hurricane.

DHS BS will last 2-3 months for sure. No worries

 

[longle]

Heeey, I'm so happy with my 40deg H3 BS on the Stiga Wang Manyu... It's light, it's fast, it's stable as heck, it's spinny... Awwwwwww it's really lovely.
3 layers of thin as heck regular Seamoon did the job so well but my blade is so well working with it too.
I knew it from the first time hitting against my teammate's Spinlord Gipfelsturm that this will be all lovey-dovey for me. I really hate playing against Gipfelsturm that medium pips is nasty. It's tacky on lighter hits so can spin "normally" but after a certain force it turns into an anti.
With G09c I need to compensate a lot by pulling my arm upwards, with B3 I had to do much less so B3 is much more stable than G09c, but H3 BS was just like it doesn't give 2 poops. So dang...
Also H3 BS boosted @ 46 grams? That is featherweight and for sure these newer H3 provincials are not uber tacky but the topsheet is still amazing quality.

The best part is that it sounds so pleasant. When I hit flat or loop or drive it sounds very pleasant. No metallic sounds whatsoever but that is also because of the Stiga Wang Manyu blade eating the ball so well.

Overall with Glayzer on BH side I'm at 186g which is pretty sweet with a 89-90g blade.
Actually Glayzer feels so bouncy now it reminds me of Dignics 64. This Glayzer that I have on BH is pretty crazy. But the balls it outputs are very high level too just a bit difficult to manage sometimes like D64 was. I don't even like to say too bouncy, but it is so elastic that it's hard to manage. On harder shots the topsheet kicks so much that it overshoots for me a lot. I feel I need to be more brave and hit harder so I can make the ball even more high quality.

I hope DHS BS will last me for a while. 2-3 months would be acceptable.

I've always been a fan of Battle 2 but I switched to H3 due to one huge advantage of it - the weight

 

[Lazer]

I've always been a fan of Battle 2 but I switched to H3 due to one huge advantage of it - the weight

I can relate to this, I would have liked an H8-80 on BH, but unfortunately it’s too heavy. On FH I don’t compromise.

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Zwill]

Hmmm, so far my H3BS 40deg is holding up quite well. It survived China and even now it's still great. If I have to complain I kind of miss a bit of tack.
In China I got myself another spare and it was rather cheap too. Well one H3 is no H3 in my book always need a spare one in the drawer.
But now I am wondering if I made a mistake with the 40deg since what I feel now is that it has become too bouncy. I loved that feel when it was still newer when it held the ball longer. It still feels more stable than most rubbers but I'm just wondering if 41deg lasts longer.

 

[rbtitco]

Hmmm, so far my H3BS 40deg is holding up quite well. It survived China and even now it's still great. If I have to complain I kind of miss a bit of tack.
In China I got myself another spare and it was rather cheap too. Well one H3 is no H3 in my book always need a spare one in the drawer.
But now I am wondering if I made a mistake with the 40deg since what I feel now is that it has become too bouncy. I loved that feel when it was still newer when it held the ball longer. It still feels more stable than most rubbers but I'm just wondering if 41deg lasts longer.

U try National? Heard it can take more boosting and is tougher. I don't really know cuz I'm too cheap and not good enough to justify it's purchase

 

[JJ Ng]

I have one sheet of H3 neo National blue sponge 39 degree. It was ok. I don't see a big difference between provincial and national blue sponge.

I think it is up to the individual to decide how often they want to change their hurricane 3. Everyone has a different budget.

Let me put it in a different way. If winning matches 3 times a week at the club is important to you, then how much is winning worth for you?

To me, I would keep the blue sponge on the blade until I feel it is not as dynamic anymore. It could be up to 3 months or 4 months each time. Then I reboost it once and after that, it is probably time to throw it away and change it in a couple months again.

 

[Zwill]

U try National? Heard it can take more boosting and is tougher. I don't really know cuz I'm too cheap and not good enough to justify it's purchase

Yes, my first H3 BS was a 40deg national. It's not about the boosting to be honest, I feel it's plenty fast enough maybe even too fast now. I guess as it breaks in it gets faster and also the tack wears off too. I don't really feel a huge difference between that old H3BS national and the current provincial.

I have one sheet of H3 neo National blue sponge 39 degree. It was ok. I don't see a big difference between provincial and national blue sponge.

I think it is up to the individual to decide how often they want to change their hurricane 3. Everyone has a different budget.

Let me put it in a different way. If winning matches 3 times a week at the club is important to you, then how much is winning worth for you?

To me, I would keep the blue sponge on the blade until I feel it is not as dynamic anymore. It could be up to 3 months or 4 months each time. Then I reboost it once and after that, it is probably time to throw it away and change it in a couple months again.

I don't plan to replace it yet, it has only 6-7 weeks of hard use. Just I'm wondering if the 41 deg sponge keeps its original properties for longer.

 

[Saiph]

I just got the blade DHS Hurricane 301T. Will take some pictures and review

Hey, how's the blade? I'm interested in hearing your opinion or other users' on 301T. Other reviews usually talk only about the base 301, not the variants

 

[baynhanh145]

Hey, how's the blade? I'm interested in hearing your opinion or other users' on 301T. Other reviews usually talk only about the base 301, not the variants

Its splintered after one time glueing.
About feeling, its faster than normal 301

 

[PawnOnF4]

How long does it usually take for an H3 BS 40 to get into a glueable form? Here is my H3 after 2 layers of a regular seamoon, 7 hours after applying the second layer:

I guess 24-48 hours from this point? How flat should it be to glue it on the blade?

 

[dingyibvs]

How long does it usually take for an H3 BS 40 to get into a glueable form? Here is my H3 after 2 layers of a regular seamoon, 7 hours after applying the second layer:

View attachment 32289

I guess 24-48 hours from this point? How flat should it be to glue it on the blade?

It's gluable now, though I usually do it 12-24 hours after the last layer of boost. I basically just want to make sure the oil has properly dispersed throughout the sponge but before the dome starts disappearing significantly. You must be applying some REALLY thick layers to get that much dome after 2 layers.

 

[PawnOnF4]

You must be applying some REALLY thick layers to get that much dome after 2 layers.

When I started applying the first layer I realized that I put too much booster, so I quickly transferred most of it back to the can using the brush. The first layer ended up quite thin after that. The second layer was maybe a little bit thicker, but not by much. Though it curled a lot even after the first layer.

 

[Heming Hu]

If you are a DHS simp or heck if you are a hater or anything in-between (a normal human being??) this thread should unite all of us who have feelings towards them.

Let me give some bullet points:
- You have tried H3 and it is the most spinny and controlled rubber that ever existed!
- You think H3 is a fantastic rubber but it is very slow, but with a bit of extra effort (boosting) it can be turned into the best rubber on the market!
- You bought a sheet of Hurricane 8-80 and for about 25USD you found that it performs similarly to Dignics 09c but for easier to use!
- DHS no15 glue is the best thing since sliced bread, sticks well enough, doesn't damage your blade, easy to remove, thick enough, cheap, doesn't stink!
- DHS limba top ply blades have better quality than BTY while being cheaper!
- DHS balls are the best price/performance balls one can get!
- You don't mind giving some of your hard-earned money to sponsor a few Chinese players so they can provide fans with great entertainment as they challenge the world!

Funnily enough I have at least interacted with 10x more people here who like DHS than in real life who at least tried them!!! So forums seem to have a more concentrated amount of DHS fans.

I am also curios to hear what you have to say about DHS pimples, Tin Arc, Gold Arc etc etc series. Tin Arc is a bit interesting to me since it's a fully DHS product.
I can't comment on the DHS pimples and defensive blades but they seem to have fanbase and pro player base as well.

I whole heartedly agree with EVERYTHING you have said here.

DHS were the kindest and most giving sponsor (more than the non table tennis sponsors I had too) I ever had!

Your experience is exactly how I have felt. Only thing I didn't like where they ESN made rubbers like Tin Arc, etc

 

[Saiph]

View attachment 32286Its splintered after one time glueing.
About feeling, its faster than normal 301

Speed wise, it is consistent then with the result from ttlab. How about the 'hold'? Does it hold the ball enough like many inner fiber blades or just kick it back on contact?

And did you seal the blade before gluing? You used DHS #15 or another glue? Might also be the bad QC DHS blades are also famous about...