DHS fans unite!

[rbtitco]

View attachment 32286Its splintered after one time glueing.
About feeling, its faster than normal 301

Didn't Zwill tell you that DHS has better quality top ply Limba than butterfly? Lol

Seriously, sorry about the blade, tho.....Sometimes with that company it doesn't matter how you pull the rubber off.

 

[netdriver]

if only skyline 2/3 wasnt so hard to get locally, i wouldve been a fan of dhs already

729 is mid but for now i am a 729 fan

 

[dingyibvs]

So I just swapped some rubbers around, glued up my 3rd sheet of provincial H3N BS 40 degrees. I've used 2 sheets of national H3N BS 40 degrees as well. I must say, the 2 national sheets are consistently and considerably more tacky than the 3 provincial sheets. The provincial H3N is barely tacky, like D09c after the initial tackiness wears off. Both national sheets are fairly tacky, and have stayed tacky. The first sheet is 5 months old now and it's just as tacky as it came. Interestingly, I have a sheet of QTY's personal H3N as well and it's also barely tacky like the provincial ones.

So I guess if you want tacky H3's, get the regular H3 nationals. If you don't want a tacky H3, get anything else.

 

[haggisv]

So I just swapped some rubbers around, glued up my 3rd sheet of provincial H3N BS 40 degrees. I've used 2 sheets of national H3N BS 40 degrees as well. I must say, the 2 national sheets are consistently and considerably more tacky than the 3 provincial sheets. The provincial H3N is barely tacky, like D09c after the initial tackiness wears off. Both national sheets are fairly tacky, and have stayed tacky. The first sheet is 5 months old now and it's just as tacky as it came. Interestingly, I have a sheet of QTY's personal H3N as well and it's also barely tacky like the provincial ones.

So I guess if you want tacky H3's, get the regular H3 nationals. If you don't want a tacky H3, get anything else.

That's quite surprising, because it's usually only the commercial ones that are tacky, and both provincial/National barely tacky. I've not seen a National sheet that feels that tacky, although the black clearly have a bit more tack compared to red.

 

[longle]

if you take proper care, any H3 topsheet will retain its tackiness. My commercial H3 on my BH is even more tackier than the pro H3 on my FH

 

[jammmail]

So im fully in the DHS fan club - am really enjoying H3N 39BS on my FH. Each time time im using it its feeling better and the spin (when caught right) is brilliant. Its really satisfying hitting with H3 well. Ok not every shot for me but when you do its so much more satisfying than pinging a shot past someone with Tenergy or something quicker.
Im thinking lets try something on my BH - what seems to be the way people are going H3 37 or H8-80. Is there a big difference? are the provincial/national versions worth it on BH?

 

[Chang]

Hi guys,

I am curious. Did anybody else notice something different about commercial hurricanes? I know that their quality control isn´t the best, but still, it seems, like the rubber is different and even might be worse then before.

I won´t talk about the awful quality of the engraving of letters and numbers and the fingerprint on the black rubber.

I bought 2 hurricanes: a black 39, 2.1, and a red 38, 2.1

The first thing that I noticed was that the rubbers were soft. It's softer than I remember. I had like 5 Hurricane rubbers before that, one 8-80, all were definitely harder. Even if some of them could be 40 degrees, they would be like 20 percent, not just one degree. I even had 37 back then, and that was harder than the 39 now I have.

When playing, I remember that the hurricanes had somehow glass feeling, they were hard, and had a sharp and loud sound. These are feeling like slow soft rubbers. Like some Kokutaku I bought for 2 bucks. Control is good, since tackiness is still good, which surprised me since I read hurricanes are no longer tacky. But no hard feelings from them that I remember.

When looking at the sponge, only red has these lines from cutting like the old ones. Not exactly the thing that I would consider for their quality, but on look it looks the same as before. But on touch, it feels like some smooth dishwasher sponge than real rubber. Red Kokutaku with white sponge had it same. Both rubbers are like that.

I still have the old hurricane, even though it could be harder, and in 2.2, the feel on the sponge is different, like rubber, not like a sponge.

Has anyone encountered that also?

What really baffles me is that now 38 red Hurricane is softer than my previous 37 Hurricane, exactly remember feeling from that one (hard, no feeling, heavy). This 38 is soft, somewhat feeling, light, and slow. Played on the same blade.

And just to mention, I checked their serial number on the DHS page. If the page is not rigged, those that I bought are real.

 

[longle]

Hi guys,

I am curious. Did anybody else notice something different about commercial hurricanes? I know that their quality control isn´t the best, but still, it seems, like the rubber is different and even might be worse then before.

I won´t talk about the awful quality of the engraving of letters and numbers and the fingerprint on the black rubber.

I bought 2 hurricanes: a black 39, 2.1, and a red 38, 2.1

The first thing that I noticed was that the rubbers were soft. It's softer than I remember. I had like 5 Hurricane rubbers before that, one 8-80, all were definitely harder. Even if some of them could be 40 degrees, they would be like 20 percent, not just one degree. I even had 37 back then, and that was harder than the 39 now I have.

When playing, I remember that the hurricanes had somehow glass feeling, they were hard, and had a sharp and loud sound. These are feeling like slow soft rubbers. Like some Kokutaku I bought for 2 bucks. Control is good, since tackiness is still good, which surprised me since I read hurricanes are no longer tacky. But no hard feelings from them that I remember.

When looking at the sponge, only red has these lines from cutting like the old ones. Not exactly the thing that I would consider for their quality, but on look it looks the same as before. But on touch, it feels like some smooth dishwasher sponge than real rubber. Red Kokutaku with white sponge had it same. Both rubbers are like that.

I still have the old hurricane, even though it could be harder, and in 2.2, the feel on the sponge is different, like rubber, not like a sponge.

Has anyone encountered that also?

What really baffles me is that now 38 red Hurricane is softer than my previous 37 Hurricane, exactly remember feeling from that one (hard, no feeling, heavy). This 38 is soft, somewhat feeling, light, and slow. Played on the same blade.

And just to mention, I checked their serial number on the DHS page. If the page is not rigged, those that I bought are real.

I did not face such problems. I used H3 neo commercial H38 for some times as BH (5 sheets of them and they behave the same), then I tried the Pro version and did not like it. Both rubbers are H38 but I feel that the Pro is much softer although it has more catapult. The commercial version is harder, has a loud sound, more controlled which I like.

 

[RomanAngerer]

Dunno what you people dislike about new Hurricanes being a tad softer. For me, only the CNT members can successfully capitalize on harder H3 sponges.
For us, mortals, less tackiness and more springiness is an improvement, as we don't have to engage the whole body for effective topspins.

Hell, even ML's personal H3 versions (42, 42.5) are noticeably softer than the numbers say. Even the regular 41 H3 BS feels harder than the ML's personal H3.
As someone who moved from H3N 40 commercial to H3N 38 provincial, my consistency and quality have improved dramatically. The old hurricanes were tacky bricks, while the new versions are way easier to play offensively, which is a blessing for non-CNT plebs

 

[Chang]

Dunno what you people dislike about new Hurricanes being a tad softer. For me, only the CNT members can successfully capitalize on harder H3 sponges.
For us, mortals, less tackiness and more springiness is an improvement, as we don't have to engage the whole body for effective topspins.

Hell, even ML's personal H3 versions (42, 42.5) are noticeably softer than the numbers say. Even the regular 41 H3 BS feels harder than the ML's personal H3.
As someone who moved from H3N 40 commercial to H3N 38 provincial, my consistency and quality have improved dramatically. The old hurricanes were tacky bricks, while the new versions are way easier to play offensively, which is a blessing for non-CNT plebs

I will ignore the part about being mortal since I am only one round of Falkenberg behind God and will comment on the rest.

Well, it was the reason why I bought them. I wanted brick-like tacky rubber that needed to be boosted to do something that was similar to "kinda playable rubber". Hurricanes used to be like that. Now those that I bought are just slow softer-ish rubbers with good grip. Even after two layers Seamoon booster, it does nothing special, still slow, hence no hardness is here to support speed that would overcome the tackiness.

If I wanted slow tacky soft rubbers, I could get mentioned Kokutaku Blutenkirshe for 2 bucks, Bty Tackiness Chop, or just again Hybrid K3 (rip the durability), which played like a faster hurricane.

 

[damszelfly]

Hi guys,

I am curious. Did anybody else notice something different about commercial hurricanes? I know that their quality control isn´t the best, but still, it seems, like the rubber is different and even might be worse then before.

I won´t talk about the awful quality of the engraving of letters and numbers and the fingerprint on the black rubber.

I bought 2 hurricanes: a black 39, 2.1, and a red 38, 2.1

The first thing that I noticed was that the rubbers were soft. It's softer than I remember. I had like 5 Hurricane rubbers before that, one 8-80, all were definitely harder. Even if some of them could be 40 degrees, they would be like 20 percent, not just one degree. I even had 37 back then, and that was harder than the 39 now I have.

When playing, I remember that the hurricanes had somehow glass feeling, they were hard, and had a sharp and loud sound. These are feeling like slow soft rubbers. Like some Kokutaku I bought for 2 bucks. Control is good, since tackiness is still good, which surprised me since I read hurricanes are no longer tacky. But no hard feelings from them that I remember.

When looking at the sponge, only red has these lines from cutting like the old ones. Not exactly the thing that I would consider for their quality, but on look it looks the same as before. But on touch, it feels like some smooth dishwasher sponge than real rubber. Red Kokutaku with white sponge had it same. Both rubbers are like that.

I still have the old hurricane, even though it could be harder, and in 2.2, the feel on the sponge is different, like rubber, not like a sponge.

Has anyone encountered that also?

What really baffles me is that now 38 red Hurricane is softer than my previous 37 Hurricane, exactly remember feeling from that one (hard, no feeling, heavy). This 38 is soft, somewhat feeling, light, and slow. Played on the same blade.

And just to mention, I checked their serial number on the DHS page. If the page is not rigged, those that I bought are real.

I have purchased various DHS rubbers in several rounds from AliExpress sellers, and while I might get lucky sometimes, and the sheet weights correlate with the stated hardness, it is rather more frequent, that I don't really get, what I expect.

For example, I bought 2 pairs of H8-80 38 degree, because of why not, and I got black sheets with 65.3g and 64.1g weight, while my red sheets was weighing 69.3g and 72.6g.
I also bought 2 pairs of H3 Neo Provincial OS 39 degree 2.2mm, and I got black sheets with 61.7g and 70.9g, while my reds were again overweight with 72.2g and 74.9g (with the white sheet left on the sponge).
All packages seemed like valid ones, and from reputable sellers.

 

[jonyer80]

Let's face the truth: you don't need to be the sharpest tool in the shed in order to realize their lion's "share" relies IN their their domestic business; as a matter of fact they dont give a shit about paltry figures such a Euro market

 

[Lazer]

I’ve played H3 OS provincial for over a year now and they are all very similar even the same to me.

Cheers
L-zr

 

[netdriver]

just here to say that H3 prov OS is really fast and spinny

 

[jammmail]

How long are people getting from the newer sheets of H3N? The drop of seems more extreme and they are lasting a little less from my impression.

 

[RomanAngerer]

How long are people getting from the newer sheets of H3N? The drop of seems more extreme and they are lasting a little less from my impression.

You mean that your sheets lose its grip or?
For me, H3N duration is still the same, mine last about 6-9 (I reboost every 3 months with 2-3 layers of Falco Long). The unboosted ones seem to never die (39, 40d), as some of my buddies still play with my old unboosted sheets for almost 2 years and the grip is excellent.

 

[jammmail]

You mean that your sheets lose its grip or?
For me, H3N duration is still the same, mine last about 6-9 (I reboost every 3 months with 2-3 layers of Falco Long). The unboosted ones seem to never die (39, 40d), as some of my buddies still play with my old unboosted sheets for almost 2 years and the grip is excellent.

Thanks - Both grip and just general grab of the ball doesn't seem to be at the same levels as a month ago and seems to have changed quite rapidly. How many hours is that roughly you think with yours?

I think prob needs a reboost as its been about 3 months - but wanted to leave it on the racket as long as possible.

 

[RomanAngerer]

Thanks - Both grip and just general grab of the ball doesn't seem to be at the same levels as a month ago and seems to have changed quite rapidly. How many hours is that roughly you think with yours?

I think prob needs a reboost as its been about 3 months - but wanted to leave it on the racket as long as possible.

I usually play around 7-8 hours weekly. Maybe mine are less worn due to spin-oriented play instead of power, I don't hit the ball too hard and the topsheet doesn't suffer as much.

Maybe reboosting will help. At least for me, Falco Long makes H3N/Jupiter much more elastic, so that the rubbers don't rely on tackieness as much--the ball sinks more into a rubber and it grips the ball before throwing it. On the other hand, Haifu Black greatly sped up the rubber but the grip didn't improve.

 

[jammmail]

I usually play around 7-8 hours weekly. Maybe mine are less worn due to spin-oriented play instead of power, I don't hit the ball too hard and the topsheet doesn't suffer as much.

Maybe reboosting will help. At least for me, Falco Long makes H3N/Jupiter much more elastic, so that the rubbers don't rely on tackieness as much--the ball sinks more into a rubber and it grips the ball before throwing it. On the other hand, Haifu Black greatly sped up the rubber but the grip didn't improve.

Thats a similar amount of time as me then around 6+ a week. I wouldn't say I'm a particularly hard hitter, but prob do rely on the tackiness somewhat.
I used Haifu Nat White - first time instead of Falco Long before, maybe thats why - gonna reboost tonight for the weekend and see how it is before getting anymore sheets. Cheers.

 

[Crepche]

If you want to use H3 , my personal recommendation is to get a heavy blade. The H3 Is all spin and speed.

If you are a DHS simp or heck if you are a hater or anything in-between (a normal human being??) this thread should unite all of us who have feelings towards them.

Let me give some bullet points:
- You have tried H3 and it is the most spinny and controlled rubber that ever existed!
- You think H3 is a fantastic rubber but it is very slow, but with a bit of extra effort (boosting) it can be turned into the best rubber on the market!
- You bought a sheet of Hurricane 8-80 and for about 25USD you found that it performs similarly to Dignics 09c but for easier to use!
- DHS no15 glue is the best thing since sliced bread, sticks well enough, doesn't damage your blade, easy to remove, thick enough, cheap, doesn't stink!
- DHS limba top ply blades have better quality than BTY while being cheaper!
- DHS balls are the best price/performance balls one can get!
- You don't mind giving some of your hard-earned money to sponsor a few Chinese players so they can provide fans with great entertainment as they challenge the world!

Funnily enough I have at least interacted with 10x more people here who like DHS than in real life who at least tried them!!! So forums seem to have a more concentrated amount of DHS fans.

I am also curios to hear what you have to say about DHS pimples, Tin Arc, Gold Arc etc etc series. Tin Arc is a bit interesting to me since it's a fully DHS product.
I can't comment on the DHS pimples and defensive blades but they seem to have fanbase and pro player base as well.