Does the Dignics09C worth it?

[SFF_lib]

Well... I stopped using Rakza Z because of (the weight and) what I thought was poor durability. Or at least a bad way of dying so to speak. This goes for most tensors I've used - the sponge suddenly dies after a couple of months. Tenergies and Chinese rubbers have a slow decay so you keep adopting but tensors... boom, dead. The topsheet of a Rakza Z can seem to be in a very good shape but from one day to another the feeling is totally different and every loop end up in the net.
Probably due to some chemical substance not being there anymore.

Hurricane 8-80 is a good substitute but DHS is not on top of the game when it comes to quality control. So where back to paying Butterfly a lot of money!

H8-80 is on my blacklist. When new it plays great. But it’s extremely heavy for its hardness and the topsheet get oxidised in the matter of weeks. Non tacky after all.

 

[SFF_lib]

Yeah, I have heard about this phenomenon, especially in the case of Dignics09C. I believe this is because due to the fact these hybrids are actually slower tensors with a little more grip. They do not rely on their track solely, but rather on their grip, as far as I know. Anyhow, I do not know what the tack disappears in such a "short" time.

It’s strange. My 18-month old D09C loops well on my BH, on par with H3 in terms of grippiness.

Having said that I only play once or twice a week. Each session 3 hours.

 

[piligrim]

Ive been suspicious ever since noticing the third most popular blade was over 700 euros.

Forth popular blade Tibhar Alexis Lebrun OFF! Without even single review from buyers

 

[Gtsnake]

Back to the topic, I've tried Dignics 09C enough time to say that it's a wonderful FH hybrid rubber, counter topspin is insanely good among the other properties. I would use it as FH rubber but I don't want to give 80€ to Butterfly, it's way too much, even if it lasts longer than other rubbers. ZGX costs 45€ and is very close performance-wise, so bye bye Butterfly you won't have my money 😘

This is pretty much my feeling too. The value of Butterfly rubber is just too low to justify. For a much lower price there are lots of other rubbers out there that are comparable maybe even better. So why bother wasting your money. Sure Butterfly is a good rubber and you can hunt for sales or discounts but is it twice as good as the next guy? I don't think so. Also I'm not going to waste my time always on the lookout for good deals so I just stay away.

 

[kapahoo]

H8-80 is on my blacklist. When new it plays great. But it’s extremely heavy for its hardness and the topsheet get oxidised in the matter of weeks. Non tacky after all.

I guess that is the shitty quality control talking. I've used four or five (tried on different blade shapes and in 37 and 38) and the difference in weight is huge. All topsheets have been fine though and I'd say that they are at least as durable as the RZs in that way. The one I'm using now has been on my blade since september and lifts the ball without problems.
But yes, if you can't really trust them then it is a good argument against using them.

 

[GregorTT425]

It’s strange. My 18-month old D09C loops well on my BH, on par with H3 in terms of grippiness.

Having said that I only play once or twice a week. Each session 3 hours.

This just about the training my clubs gets per week (+ league matches rarely outside the training time). I think the D09C could be as durable as you have mentioned here. It also higly depends on how you care about the racket, too, I think.

 

[Topspinslinger]

In my experience and the general population I'd say: Commercial Hurricane lasts easily years, Dignics and Aurus 2 years and most grip/hybrid a year or so. Of course you can play longer with it, but you'll notice a lack of speed or grip.

 

[Migzkulit]

I guess that is the shitty quality control talking. I've used four or five (tried on different blade shapes and in 37 and 38) and the difference in weight is huge. All topsheets have been fine though and I'd say that they are at least as durable as the RZs in that way. The one I'm using now has been on my blade since september and lifts the ball without problems.
But yes, if you can't really trust them then it is a good argument against using them.

I'd think it would be possible when buying to ask for a specific weight of rubber. If you know the weight of the packaging then you can get specific.

 

[Emin]

I agree that the weight of H8-80 is an issue but none of the topsheets have oxidized or lost tackyness.

Infact, they are very durable for what I have experienced.

 

[doppelmoral]

Sometimes, you need a rubber that sucks a bit at pushing to force you to learn how to flick or sideswipe properly

D05 pushes are definitely not that great but they aren't that bad and it still can be controlled with proper technique. Also, it forced me to actually examine the push technique in great detail rather than relying on rubber properties (for eg Hurricane 3 is so good at short pushes that you don't even need great short push technique to execute it, whereas with D05 if your technique is terrible you almost have no chance of keeping it short)

any instructional videos on how to push like that?

my pushing game is not bad but not outstanding, and thats kind of what holds me back from using d05. I‘d love to use it again for durability reasons though, my omega 7 pro is cooked after about 3 months of usage

 

[NetProphet]

Not too sure, but it is definitely a good choice. I saw that NextLevel has also replaced both his rubbers with the Rakza Z.

Did he f#ck! 😂 He's Dignics all the way.
Just last wk he called it the most boring rubber to play with, not that someone else's choice should be a factor in your game choice anyway.

I am currently playing with the Rakza Z on the forehand, but I am thinking of trying the Dignics09C for the forehand sometimes. I am wondering if the doubled price actually worth it? Would I get a noticable extra spin/speed? How different would it be? Any other experiences or tips? Do you think it would worth it?

I think for advanced intermediate players and above it's worth it for the extra zip.
I've gone from Rakza Z to 09c a mth ago and tbh there isn't that much difference most of the time, until you really flake it! That's when the harder sponge ( sponge x or whatever they call it) shows its stuff.
But if you don't regularly attack at full blood then you don't need it. Short game, spin game and most other shots are quite similar.
It may be worth it in durability but I've yet to find out. I was getting 8-9 mths at 5 hrs a week from Rakza Z so if I get a year + from Dignics I'll be happy but if I had to buy a new rubber tomorrow I'd get the Z at half the price.
Everyone's game is different though and that's just me. 🤷

 

[land_killer]

D09 is one of the most all around rubber you can get (also one of the most expensive). It is fast and have a pretty good ball grabbing. However, it is probably too fast and kinda hard to control for some people. For me, it is good for FH but probably too elastic as bh.

 

[blahness]

any instructional videos on how to push like that?

my pushing game is not bad but not outstanding, and thats kind of what holds me back from using d05. I‘d love to use it again for durability reasons though, my omega 7 pro is cooked after about 3 months of usage

If you can short push high topspin balls you can short push anything lol. It is a matter of how to absorb momentum to the sides (dont think about hitting the ball).

 

[JJ Ng]

I tried Rakza Z before. My impression is the same as @TensorBackhand
I am not too impressed. But that is because I am coming from Hurricane blue sponge. Rakza Z has an insane high throw angle that I simply cannot use on my forehand. The sponge is very soft too. But I can see the appeal. The topsheet is very spinny. I can certain see how good it will be in the short game. High throw angle also helps with lifting backspin.

As for hurricane, it is also about the sponge. There is something about their blue sponge that other manufacturers including in China cannot duplicate. The top end speed is insane.