Experience with some other Loki rubbers - Arthur China, GTX Pro (inc)

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I had certain expectations about H9, but it looked a bit gimmicky, especially for the price asked, so I did not buy a sheet yet - it seems, that I had a better decision when I chose to enjoy sheets of Friendship Battle II Gold and Battle III instead (they are on the way, not received them yet).

I had one of each as samples.
wasn't impressed

the #20 and #22 sponges wasn't nice too.
I guess the quality of H3 is too high and H8 topsheet isn't bad either.
They should of just made H8-80 in colour
and H3 37 Deg in colour too

I think that would have been easier than make a new series that flopped

 

[Zwill]

Topsheet and sponge work really well for a long time but don't reglue it...
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Jesus, looks like a mouse was hungry. What glue?

 

[hclnnkhg]

I had one of each as samples.
wasn't impressed

the #20 and #22 sponges wasn't nice too.
I guess the quality of H3 is too high and H8 topsheet isn't bad either.
They should of just made H8-80 in colour
and H3 37 Deg in colour too

I think that would have been easier than make a new series that flopped

I think releasing H9 is more of an opportunistic move. All four colors are available in the market with next to zero domestic competitors. Sowrd Ares and 729 general in green are only released this year, and as far as I know still no purple inverted rubbers from other Chinese brand.

 

[ttarc]

Jesus, looks like a mouse was hungry. What glue?

Good question. Had both Revolution normal viscosity and Neottec Neofix at that time. The #80 sponge is that brittle although this H8-80 is the softest I've got. Feels more like 35 instead of 37.

 

[Zwill]

Good question. Had both Revolution normal viscosity and Neottec Neofix at that time. The #80 sponge is that brittle although this H8-80 is the softest I've got. Feels more like 35 instead of 37.

Ah yes, Neottec. Those German glues can be a massive pain to remove. Not only they destroy sponges they also destroy the skin on the finger.
My 37 deg version is a bit weak too, once I didn't remove it carefully and near the edge the sponge got a bit torn. But glue peeling was never a problem with good glues, it's about as straightforward job as from any other Chinese sponge.

 

[M4rc0H]

My recommendation for the sponge of the 8-80: DHS No. 15 or Finzip. No problems at all.
Both my 8-80s got it the other day in a 6 hr session (28° C ). The topsheet was completely oxidized.

 

[Attitude]

Ah yes, Neottec. Those German glues can be a massive pain to remove. Not only they destroy sponges they also destroy the skin on the finger.
My 37 deg version is a bit weak too, once I didn't remove it carefully and near the edge the sponge got a bit torn. But glue peeling was never a problem with good glues, it's about as straightforward job as from any other Chinese sponge.

Agree cant work with those at all. Usually i go with dhs, the thick glue from stiga or Revolution, these days.
Though i probably wont use revolution again, because it needs many layers and had some solid parts in it after some time. Finezip should be great as well but couldnt find it at a decent pricerange in germany.

 

[BaRanchik]

Finally received my LAC.
Ordered from BEO on AliExpress, received the orange package, H41. 74.5g uncut, 53.7g cut to size.
This is way harder than anything I have previously used, but I'll start testing it at the club tomorrow and draw my conclusion after a few weeks.

 

[TensorBackhand]

Well I asked for $10 refund and got it from Aliexpress for the rxton 5 soft. Not too bad, i lost $2.

 

[lodro]

Finally received my LAC.
Ordered from BEO on AliExpress, received the orange package, H41. 74.5g uncut, 53.7g cut to size.
This is way harder than anything I have previously used, but I'll start testing it at the club tomorrow and draw my conclusion after a few weeks. View attachment 25959

Exactly same as mine. I played it on Wednesday and then sold it to my coach.

 

[lodro]

Well I asked for $10 refund and got it from Aliexpress for the rxton 5 soft. Not too bad, i lost $2.

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are these the photos you submitted to aliexpress for evidence ?

 

[TensorBackhand]

are these the photos you submitted to aliexpress for evidence ?

Yes they are. I could've asked for the full refund. But I feel bad for these sellers, if somebody wanted they could be seriously abusive.

Aliexpress almost always gives a refund even with the slightest dissatisfaction. So you can always find something you are not happy about and abuse the system.

 

[lodro]

Yes they are. I could've asked for the full refund. But I feel bad for these sellers, if somebody wanted they could be seriously abusive.

Aliexpress almost always gives a refund even with the slightest dissatisfaction. So you can always find something you are not happy about and abuse the system.

my experience with ali dispute is that it can be a lottery. For example, I received a plastic bottle of Loki glue with brush inside the lid. This one was loose and kept falling off. When i got it the brush was in the bottom of the bottle = no refund.

In the moment I am fighting for a refund for some plastic rubber covers that were folded in half.
You may all have fun and bet on this : refund or not 😂

 

[TensorBackhand]

my experience with ali dispute is that it can be a lottery. For example, I received a plastic bottle of Loki glue with brush inside the lid. This one was loose and kept falling off. When i got it the brush was in the bottom of the bottle = no refund.

In the moment I am fighting for a refund for some plastic rubber covers that were folded in half.
You may all have fun and bet on this : refund or not 😂

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Well, I have 100% refund success rate. So I'm guessing you will succeed.

But there's a lot of grey zone. I feel bad for the sellers that you can literally dispute every tiny little detail.

 

[lodro]

I feel bad for the sellers that you can literally dispute every tiny little detail.

For me Aliexpress is the shop away from home and I basically hand over my money and expect to get what is advertised.
When I order a red one - I don't accept a blue one.
when i order a round one - I won't accept a square one
And I don't accept having to get all my tools out and start fixing goods that arrive damaged.
So if i get a bottle like this but the brush is at the bottom, I have to fish it out of the VOC glue , dry it wash it with solvent , make up a special epoxy mix and glue the brush into place: I expect to be compensated. I charge NZ$ 184.50 /hour these days

 

[mocker88]

For me Aliexpress is the shop away from home and I basically hand over my money and expect to get what is advertised.
When I order a red one - I don't accept a blue one.
when i order a round one - I won't accept a square one
And I don't accept having to get all my tools out and start fixing goods that arrive damaged.
So if i get a bottle like this but the brush is at the bottom, I have to fish it out of the VOC glue , dry it wash it with solvent , make up a special epoxy mix and glue the brush into place: I expect to be compensated. I charge NZ$ 184.50 /hour these days

Hey. There are threads on the brush, so you can just spin it back into the lid

 

[lodro]

Hey. There are threads on the brush, so you can just spin it back into the lid

That only works if the both threads match each other , otherwise it is so loose you can never tighten it.
Anyway, who is the engineer here you or me ???? 🤣🤣🤣

 

[mocker88]

That only works if the both threads match each other , otherwise it is so loose you can never tighten it.
Anyway, who is the engineer here you or me ???? 🤣🤣🤣

Ah. They don't match? But an engineer might be able to fix that right?

 

[lodro]

Ah. They don't match? But an engineer might be able to fix that right?

did you not read this bit ??
And I don't accept having to get all my tools out and start fixing goods that arrive damaged.
So if i get a bottle like this but the brush is at the bottom, I have to fish it out of the VOC glue , dry it wash it with solvent , make up a special epoxy mix and glue the brush into place: I expect to be compensated. I charge NZ$ 184.50 /hour these days

 

[mocker88]

Yes I did. I think you could get rich doing this brush/lid assembly and charge Haifu for fixing all their broken products