I TESTED MA LONG’S ACTUAL TABLE TENNIS BAT!

[kobietgiainen]

no not right, check the image

not my image. Pick up your racket and try it

 

[banbekas]

Early in the video you can see just how thick that blue sponge is. No way it's 2.2 mm.

Must have been a crazy amount of booster to make it that thick.

 

[banbekas]

not my image. Pick up your racket and try it

lol, okay mr chinese technique. That being said, Waldner is using chinese technique too. Is he using H3?

 

[Vrael]

well i think you need to pick up the bat and experiment yourself.

I literally did it today, maybe I don't post much on this forum, but some people know I am huge EJ and 10 years ago Carl on this forum estimated my level as "lowest You could be is 1800 and looks like the highest you could be is 2300". Not sure what is Your level and if You have some secret knowledge of rubbers that butterfly is hiding from us, but from what I know softer rubbers does not equal higher throw. Higher throw does not equal longer trajectory

not my image. Pick up your racket and try it

Yeah it was not Your image it was screenshot from butterfly's video. (maybe I will post it again, cause I have a feeling You missed it)

 

[kobietgiainen]

lol, okay mr chinese technique. That being said, Waldner is using chinese technique too. Is he using H3?

hell no. But he played with 38mm ball
and you don't need H3 to play with Chinese technique. Waldner blocks quite often, so he couldn't play with tacky rubber
how tf we went from discussing to roasting?

 

[kobietgiainen]

I literally did it today, maybe I don't post much on this forum, but some people know I am huge EJ and 10 years ago Carl on this forum estimated my level as "lowest You could be is 1800 and looks like the highest you could be is 2300". Not sure what is Your level and if You have some secret knowledge of rubbers that butterfly is hiding from us, but from what I know softer rubbers does not equal higher throw. Higher throw does not equal longer trajectory

Yeah it was not Your image it was screenshot from butterfly's video. (maybe I will post it again, cause I have a feeling You missed it)

ok, Japanese, I lost, ok, deal with your rubbers.

 

[kobietgiainen]

hell no. But he played with 38mm ball
and you don't need H3 to play with Chinese technique. Waldner blocks quite often, so he couldn't play with tacky rubber
how tf we went from discussing to roasting?

how do you know that Waldner plays with Chinese technique?

 

[banbekas]

hell no. But he played with 38mm ball
and you don't need H3 to play with Chinese technique. Waldner blocks quite often, so he couldn't play with tacky rubber
how tf we went from discussing to roasting?

????
Straight arm, whole body, no forearm snap? I thought it is chinese technique. You said ML with his chinese technique will shoot the ball to the moon if he uses ESN rubber, but Waldner didn't overshoot it?
H3 is chinese rubber so of course you need it to play chinese technique. Yinhe Mercury sure ain't gonna cut it.

 

[kobietgiainen]

I literally did it today, maybe I don't post much on this forum, but some people know I am huge EJ and 10 years ago Carl on this forum estimated my level as "lowest You could be is 1800 and looks like the highest you could be is 2300". Not sure what is Your level and if You have some secret knowledge of rubbers that butterfly is hiding from us, but from what I know softer rubbers does not equal higher throw. Higher throw does not equal longer trajectory

Yeah it was not Your image it was screenshot from butterfly's video. (maybe I will post it again, cause I have a feeling You missed it)

But Ma Long stroke consist of upward motion, which can easily lift the ball to high.

 

[kobietgiainen]

????
Straight arm, whole body, no forearm snap? I thought it is chinese technique. You said ML with his chinese technique will shoot the ball to the moon if he uses ESN rubber, but Waldner didn't overshoot it?

he do not hit hard like ma long

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

the moral of the video is that just chose whatever blade that make you feel comfortable, but I wonder, although ZJK said that he used only normal looking blade, but is his Viscaria really normal or they are custom made ?

I bet it's likely that for really high profile players wanting market versions of a blade, the manufacturer would at least separate out samples of a desired weight to provide a pool the end user could select from. Schlager has stated in the past that he was using off the shelf Primorac Carbon selected at 87.5g and market T05.

Early in the video you can see just how thick that blue sponge is. No way it's 2.2 mm. View attachment 34396

Must have been a crazy amount of booster to make it that thick.

Fh H3 is just oversized because its boosted and he hasn't trimmed it. It would look thinner if he had cut it to the edge

 

[Vrael]

ok, Japanese

it is funny, You didn't even get my nationality right, cause I just live in Japan, but if that was supposed to be offensive then isn't it against this forum rules ? I think we try to argue with some kid, so I will just go to sleep. No arguments, so starting to get personal

 

[Tyce]

The epitome of internet know-it-all: critique on the world's greatest player's best stroke.

 

[kobietgiainen]

it is funny, You didn't even get my nationality right, cause I just live in Japan, but if that was supposed to be offensive then isn't it against this forum rules ? I think we try to argue with some kid, so I will just go to sleep. No arguments, so starting to get personal

Actually, I'm a teenager, sorry about that bad word. But there must be a reason why Ma Long got rid of soft rubbers on his forehand.

 

[Tyce]

Because he never trained with them? Hard, tacky Chinese rubber is basically the standard in China afaik.

 

[WingTT]

For those who don't know, sponsored player National H3 BS is different from what you can buy commercially and their blades are also custom made. I have a used H3 BS supposedly from a sponsored player and it is much easier to use than what I was told is the National Version someone got from tabletennis11. The only issue is it made my racket too heavy.

 

[NextLevel]

IMO the blades the pros use have the same composition as the blades we use, just the quality of the wood will be very high and the blade weight is precise. It doesn't make sense if they pros' blades have different type of wood or carbon, right ? So for us mortals, we don't really need that much quality

The quality is not in the construction per se, it is more in the selection given tolerances. Yes, after the blade is built and selected, it is easy to say "ah, this and that and this and that about the blade make it special", but no one can manufacture a blade and be very sure the blade will come out as planned, even in the hands of the player, there might be subtle things the player doesn't like. The simplest way to see this is to test the variety of frequencies and weights you can get on a blade when you have 4 samples of it. Wood is a living thing with different densities so being precise on what the wood will do in the blade is a fool's game, you can be broadly accurate. When you have 10 blades and can measure 10 of them, you can discard and sell the ones you don't like and give the ones that a player likes to him. After the pro picks the blade, you can say the quality of wood is different. But no one said, let's build this blade with much better quality wood, this will make a better blade - that is in the mind of people, not the reality. You can build crappy blades from beautiful wood.

 

[FZD999]

Using these custom blades and custom rubbers that us mere mortals can't get, is sorta like cheating.

Pro's should not be allowed to use specialized equipment. That sounds unfair.

 

[TampaBayTableTennis]

Using these custom blades and custom rubbers that us mere mortals can't get, is sorta like cheating.

Pro's should not be allowed to use specialized equipment. That sounds unfair.

is this an admission that there is something out there that is better than dignics 80?

 

[longle]

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The quality is not in the construction per se, it is more in the selection given tolerances. Yes, after the blade is built and selected, it is easy to say "ah, this and that and this and that about the blade make it special", but no one can manufacture a blade and be very sure the blade will come out as planned, even in the hands of the player, there might be subtle things the player doesn't like. The simplest way to see this is to test the variety of frequencies and weights you can get on a blade when you have 4 samples of it. Wood is a living thing with different densities so being precise on what the wood will do in the blade is a fool's game, you can be broadly accurate. When you have 10 blades and can measure 10 of them, you can discard and sell the ones you don't like and give the ones that a player likes to him. After the pro picks the blade, you can say the quality of wood is different. But no one said, let's build this blade with much better quality wood, this will make a better blade - that is in the mind of people, not the reality. You can build crappy blades from beautiful wood.

thanks for your insight, now I get it why pros get sponsored blades in batch, so that they can choose freely.