Is over celebrating a problem in table tennis?

[NextLevel]

Yeah, the argument seems like philosphical argument. But, the point is won on the error. So, celebrating the winning by isolating the event sounds dubious to me.

Sure. That's why people celebrate after winning a match on someone's error. Give me a break. There is a point you are making, but you are really being parochial about it.

 

[Siva Schopenhauer]

Sure. That's why people celebrate after winning a match on someone's error. Give me a break. There is a point you are making, but you are really being parochial about it.

Sure. That's why people celebrate after winning a match on someone's error

Ha Ha, good one. That is the ultimatum of logic.

If you understood what I mean, then the point is settled. Subjectivity is all itis about, nothing to do with being parochial.

 

[ttmonster]

Extra GMAT / GRE points to NextLevel for using the word "parochial" in the right context ...

Sure. That's why people celebrate after winning a match on someone's error. Give me a break. There is a point you are making, but you are really being parochial about it.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

I've gotta be honest, I can't believe this conversation is still going on. All we need is some video footage of PNut and some popcorn.


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[ttmonster]

And I thought you had allergy to all things PNut !! ... this is PNuts !!

I've gotta be honest, I can't believe this conversation is still going on. All we need is some video footage of PNut and some popcorn.


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[Baal]

Extra GMAT / GRE points to NextLevel for using the word "parochial" in the right context ...

In a post about my EJing he also commented that I had a surfeit of Viscarias (which is quite true).

Respect for anyone who can use that word properly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[kukamonga]

honestly I never watch videos with sound, either I put mute or music.
what's the point in hearing two guys doing "ugghh aagghh ugghh"?
so for all I care tomokazu and others can shout as loud as they want.

 

[Ilia Minkin]

Sometimes I play a guy who celebrates in his one unique way. He does not "tcho" normally. Instead, whenever I make an easy mistake (serve fault, missed a smash), he starts a mini theatrical performance showing off how happy he is. He loudly shows off his delight and excitement in a very exaggerated way. How would you handle this? It kind of freaks out sometimes.

 

[Shuki]

Sometimes I play a guy who celebrates in his one unique way. He does not "tcho" normally. Instead, whenever I make an easy mistake (serve fault, missed a smash), he starts a mini theatrical performance showing off how happy he is. He loudly shows off his delight and excitement in a very exaggerated way. How would you handle this? It kind of freaks out sometimes.

Are you frustrated by it? If so maybe I should start doing that, getting the opponent to think about something other than the game is the smart thing for a player to do. Learn to ignore and play your game, getting annoyed at an opponent is a good way to get yourself to play worse.

 

[Ilia Minkin]

Are you frustrated by it?

A kind of. I often get frustrated by making easy mistakes, and this overcelebration on those specific cheap points makes it worse. I do try to ignore it, as a temporary solution, I started "tchoing" loudly when playing him

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Sometimes I play a guy who celebrates in his one unique way. He does not "tcho" normally. Instead, whenever I make an easy mistake (serve fault, missed a smash), he starts a mini theatrical performance showing off how happy he is. He loudly shows off his delight and excitement in a very exaggerated way. How would you handle this? It kind of freaks out sometimes.

I am not really sure what you should do with this. That really does sound annoying. Not sure how I would handle it either.

Shuki is right to emphasize trying not to let it get to you. But that is easier said than done sometimes.

I have this friend who used to do this thing that was really funny and really annoying. When someone did some kind of celebration thing that did piss him off and get under his skin he used to start doing this fake laugh. With the fake laugh one hand would go to his mouth like he was trying to contain the laughter and the other hand would point at the person he thought was being a jerk.

I saw him really get under the skin of quite a few guys trying to celebrate cheap points that way. And more often than not, it caused him to win the mind game aspect of the game.

But, the truth is, Shuki's way of handling stuff like this is much better if you have that calm temperament. And my friend's approach was definitely tit-for-tat which eventually catches up to you in the long run.

Someone who is celebrating your mistakes instead of their success is enough of an idiot to just leave alone.


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[Archosaurus]

Every time I hear my opponent go "Yesss!" over an easy point, I can't help but think just how scared they are of my shots landing.

 

[Ilia Minkin]

I am not really sure what you should do with this. That really does sound annoying. Not sure how I would handle it either.

Shuki is right to emphasize trying not to let it get to you. But that is easier said than done sometimes.

I have this friend who used to do this thing that was really funny and really annoying. When someone did some kind of celebration thing that did piss him off and get under his skin he used to start doing this fake laugh. With the fake laugh one hand would go to his mouth like he was trying to contain the laughter and the other hand would point at the person he thought was being a jerk.

I saw him really get under the skin of quite a few guys trying to celebrate cheap points that way. And more often than not, it caused him to win the mind game aspect of the game.

But, the truth is, Shuki's way of handling stuff like this is much better if you have that calm temperament. And my friend's approach was definitely tit-for-tat which eventually catches up to you in the long run.

Someone who is celebrating your mistakes instead of their success is enough of an idiot to just leave alone.


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Yeah, ignoring it is easier said than done. I used to make circular walk after I a lose point. Probably I will try to make it longer turning my back on him while he is doing his whimsical show...

Does anybody else have rituals like that that help to push the "reset" button before the next point?

 

[Suga D]

Yeah, ignoring it is easier said than done. I used to make circular walk after I a lose point. Probably I will try to make it longer turning my back on him while he is doing his whimsical show...

Does anybody else have rituals like that that help to push the "reset" button before the next point?

It might sound funny, but actually you could gain confidence through this, 'cause he needs such cheap tricks to score against you and that could be interpreted as some sign of fear.....
[Emoji6]

 

[Ilia Minkin]

It might sound funny, but actually you could gain confidence through this, 'cause he needs such cheap tricks to score against you and that could be interpreted as some sign of fear.....
[Emoji6]

It is actually weird because he is a way better player than me.

 

[NextLevel]

It is actually weird because he is a way better player than me.

That's the real problem

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

It is actually weird because he is a way better player than me.

That's the real problem

The good new here is that it means he is an even bigger jerk than I thought. Anything that will make him feel like the idiot he is would be worth it.

The best thing I can think of would be refusing to play with him and instead practicing serves on some day when you two were the only two people in the club. Hahaha. I just made myself laugh. [emoji2]



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[NextLevel]

The good new here is that it means he is an even bigger jerk than I thought. Anything that will make him feel like the idiot he is would be worth it.



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I have had many players in my club do this on many occasions, including possibly myself, when we are playing each other and getting lucky. In fact, I sometimes find it more honest and easier to digest than the false apologies when people win on nets and edges. People say thank you when you miss serves, and sometimes, after a lucky point, the 2250+ kid will start dancing and choing for fun and of course, sometimes, me acting like a big baby, may cho when he misses a serve. It is really a matter of interpretation.

If Ilia was a better player than his friend, this would not be an issue. In fact, one defender in my club is always thanking me or his opponent whenever we miss our serves. But since I have not lost to him in over a year, it doesn't sting anymore if at all. I just make fun of him back and and tell everyone how I beat him since he will never change and will always be susceptible to anyone who can implement the strategy.

 

[laistrogian]

I have had many players in my club do this on many occasions, including possibly myself, when we are playing each other and getting lucky. In fact, I sometimes find it more honest and easier to digest than the false apologies when people win on nets and edges. People say thank you when you miss serves, and sometimes, after a lucky point, the 2250+ kid will start dancing and choing for fun and of course, sometimes, me acting like a big baby, may cho when he misses a serve. It is really a matter of interpretation.

If Ilia was a better player than his friend, this would not be an issue. In fact, one defender in my club is always thanking me or his opponent whenever we miss our serves. But since I have not lost to him in over a year, it doesn't sting anymore if at all. I just make fun of him back and and tell everyone how I beat him since he will never change and will always be susceptible to anyone who can implement the strategy.

Those people who say 'thank you' when you miss a serve deserves a special place in hell. If you are going to give hand signal for 'sorry' or ' i got lucky there' I'd appreaciate it but otherwise you might as well just shut up and do nothing. People's opinions differ but to me saying 'thank you' when your opponent miss a serve is like looking down at him / her

 

[Archosaurus]

I just act annoyed when my opponent misses a serve.

It has no negative side effects that I've seen. If they take it well, their mood will often be better than after a sarcastic "thank you" or "sorry".

If they take it badly, they will now have not only the pressure from themselves to get the serve over the net, but from me also! It's a real self esteem killer if your opponent is disappointed in your abilities.


I've probably reserved a special place in hell just for myself, with this.