Samson Dubina sexual assault case

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My response would be - yes it's quite possible. Sexual imposition against a minor is very hard to prove (especially because unlike rape, there is usually no physical evidence left behind). People who perpetrate these crimes are usually smart enough to commit them when no one is there to witness it. And they often groom the victim by trying to 'normalize' the behavior as well as scaring them into not telling anyone "our little secret". So the answer is - even when there is little physical evidence - it certainly doesn't mean the crime didn't occur. And that's why criminals often get away with it and/or escape the punishment of being labeled a sex predator via a plea bargain. Think about the Larry Nassar case and all the gymnasts he sexually abused for years before his crimes were finally revealed.

But in this case, I believe the prosecution actually had some damning evidence, otherwise Samson would have brought it to trial to totally clear his name. In the state of Ohio, there are discovery laws that require each side to present their evidence before there is a trial so each side can review it and there are no big surprises.
Forget the law for a moment, just being alone with the minor is a Safesport violation. But again, we know he was found guilty of something that suggests harm, the details of the harm are open to some degree to the imagination.
 
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i'm safe sport certified as a youth basketball/soccer official. It's actually a really great training. They HIGHLY stress that you should NEVER be alone with a minor in any circumstance. That is to protect both the minor AND you.
This is CORRECT (and I also did the safe sport certs (to coach at Shashin's club a spell).

It is NEVER good policy as a coach to be alone with a minor anywhere.

If S.D. was ever alone with a minor as a TT coach, he will not be a TT coach under Safe Sport.

On the other side, if one is not ever alone with a minor, it is more difficult for someone to trump-up a false charge of impropriety.
 
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FYI - Here is Dubina's current status with USATT. I'm sure it will get updated soon. What I don't understand is...does it currently forbid him from participating in USATT sanctioned tournaments? It only mentions Olympic ParOlympic, etc. Is it playing or just coaching? It's not clear to me. https://www.usatt.org/athlete-resources/suspended-members
 
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This entire thread, you've made nothing but joking sarcastic and juvenile comments. Perhaps the topic is making you uncomfortable.

This entire thread, you've made nothing but joking sarcastic and juvenile comments. Perhaps the topic is making you uncomfortable.
I have made my "serious comment ' as post
No #3. here it is again:

sometimes when accusation of certain acts are made, whether there is evidence or not , it can not be fought and won.
One has to simply concede that one "is licked".

It is YOU who manages to preach- on , so far, over another 6 pages, so how do you expect us to be serious about a fait -accompli?
 
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What I don't understand is...does it currently forbid him from participating in USATT sanctioned tournaments? It only mentions Olympic ParOlympic, etc. Is it playing or just coaching? It's not clear to me.
Yes, USATT is the "National Governing Body recognized by the USOPC" for Table Tennis, so he is completely banned from participating as a player or coach in any USATT event or activity.

He is also banned from being present at any USATT affiliated club. That list can be found here:
 
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Interestingly, the title in the linked to article by Julia Bingel has been changed in the last 24hrs - the original title used terminology something like "~ sexual assault against female ~". It now reads "Summit County coach pleads guilty to crime against a teenager".
I did wonder if they were opening themselves up to a defamation court case with the original title, given that it appears it was the assault charge that was convicted for and not the sexual misdemeanor charge. There might be a lesson in there somewhere?
Yes, they were opening themselves up to a defamation case. A newspaper stating that Dubina was found guilty of any sexual crimes when he wasn't is indeed defamation. Because truth is an absolute defense against defamation, then they likely believed that they printed something that wasn't truthful.

You can only be guilty of a specific charge in the criminal code. If the cases included other crimes that you were not found guilty (or plead guilty to), then you aren't somewhat guilty of those too just through association. There are some still arguing that this is the case here, and they should equally be mindful of not exposing themselves to liability for defamation.

Furthermore, it's a special type of defamation called "defamation per se" to say that Dubina was guilty of a sexual crime when he indeed was not. One element of defamation is that the statement itself be defamatory (and not just offensive or displeasing). But statements that pertain to the plaintiff committing a crime or an immoral sexual act are presumed to be defamatory without having to be proved.

There's some gray area here to say what you think may or may not have happened. But to state a defamatory falsehood like "Dubina was convicted of a sexual assault" is not a matter of opinion. That's clearly defamation per se and those who are campaigning against Dubina now should likely steer cleer of something like that.

But to say something like "Dubina wasn't convicted of the original sexual imposition charges, but he pled guilty to a separate assault charge, and therefore that means that he must be treated like a sexual offender regardless and you're stupid to think otherwise" That is likely not actionable since that's a matter of opinon. But it might stray into actionable territory if the law is being misrepresented with arguments like "the law states that you must believe him to be a sex offender."

So just a bit of warning towards those who want to cause some reputational damage to Dubina in this thread. The more you succeed, the more you further your cause, but the bigger the consequences will be if you misrepresent the situation and make an outright falsehood. Reputational damage is the currency of defamation, so to speak, and compensation for the plaintiff is commensurate with the damage done.
 
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It's notable that the news story - though correcting the headline - still has in the body of the article:

"Samson Dubina was arrested in July 2023 and charged with sexual imposition.
Dubina pleaded guilty Friday, June 28 in Barberton Municipal Court.".

They don't bother stating what he pleaded guilty to.
They did. Read the first paragraph carefully.
 
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