Shuki Development and Questions

[NextLevel]

16 min...

To post videos over 15 mins, you have to agree to something on youtube. I can't remember the process but that is all that is happening.

 

[Archosaurus]

To post videos over 15 mins, you have to agree to something on youtube. I can't remember the process but that is all that is happening.

Something to do with first newborns and sacrifices, last time I read it.

 

[Luis Nasche]

Something to do with first newborns and sacrifices, last time I read it.

It was about virgins before, but they couldn't find one if I remember well

 

[Shuki]

Your BH has some serious good touch close to the bounce. You move your hitting zone forward on BH very well to keep the ball in the effective hitting zone. You are very consistent and the BH is good pressure and wins points too. You have a good quick reaction to fast balls to your BH.

Your BH style of play has some similarities to my former playing style. Learning and maintaining that great touch on BH is essential to keep you in rallies vs the better amatures and if you harness it, will setup your FH offense.

Good stuff at this stage. As with any BH happy spinner, it can be difficult to transition to FH since the BH is good and consistent.

Wow most my cuts on my points were me just flicking their service and placing it with my backhand. I cut most of those because they didn't show variation in my gameplay. My short backhand is where I excel most


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[ttmonster]

Shuki, if you can get the required approval, post the entire match without cuts. I saw your video twice and you are really doing good but we won't be able to tell what actually is happening unless you post the complete video, you can make it private and PM it as well if thats what you prefer.

 

[Boogar]

Little offtopic: What do you guys think of a Video thread where you post a video of yourself playing a match and then have to comment on the video posted previously.

 

[Shuki]

Little offtopic: What do you guys think of a Video thread where you post a video of yourself playing a match and then have to comment on the video posted previously.

Love the idea


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[Shuki]

Figured out on YouTube you can get your time extended after having a certain amount of videos that don't get bad approval or taken down. I always took my own videos down after a bit so I need to keep them up to be able to post longer ones


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[Shuki]

Nice video Jea i like that forehand flick. However the problem with that kinda banan forehadn flick is the pace. It can easely be flip killed if the opponent is fast enough.

PS: How much time did you spend to cut the rest out >.< ? We want to see all the mistakes

Spent like 10 min cutting, I have lost points in there too just keeping tried to have variety and some rallies to show my stroke form. Something I really wanted to see was my opponent mess up reading my serve bad enough to give me a deep high ball chop near the edge. I struggle killing these and wanted to see my errors in doing so, but he didn't give me this.

As for my forehand flick. I use it and it has no pace because I don't use it right. My short forehand is atrocious. I got the hang of it for a week and there was no banana flicking type thing happening with it. But I stopped practicing and it didn't hold up. The flick you see is something I want to get rid of.

My worst strokes at the moment.

-balls at the point where I don't know if I'm supposed to kill it or loop it and end up with a mix of both which usually fails.

-short forehand flicks.

- and I despise my backhand chop

And now after this video I hate my loop too. I've been fixing my grip for longer balls but it appears I still have that damn cocked wrist. Which is killing my brain trying to figure out why I still have that when I'm trying to not choke up as high and hold the damn handle more now.

Plus my loop is so damn upward even against topspin. Video is such a huge help to improvement. Showing me what I thought was my best stroke is ugly as hell still


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[ttmonster]

I don't know if it makes any sense, but nonetheless I will tell you what was going through my mind when I was watching your video. Looking at your wrist it seemed that penhold might be a more natural grip for you than shakehand , did you ever think this or did your coach or somebody say this before ... ? Just throwing it out there , 90% chance I am completely wrong

Spent like 10 min cutting, I have lost points in there too just keeping tried to have variety and some rallies to show my stroke form. Something I really wanted to see was my opponent mess up reading my serve bad enough to give me a deep high ball chop near the edge. I struggle killing these and wanted to see my errors in doing so, but he didn't give me this.

As for my forehand flick. I use it and it has no pace because I don't use it right. My short forehand is atrocious. I got the hang of it for a week and there was no banana flicking type thing happening with it. But I stopped practicing and it didn't hold up. The flick you see is something I want to get rid of.

My worst strokes at the moment.

-balls at the point where I don't know if I'm supposed to kill it or loop it and end up with a mix of both which usually fails.

-short forehand flicks.

- and I despise my backhand chop

And now after this video I hate my loop too. I've been fixing my grip for longer balls but it appears I still have that damn cocked wrist. Which is killing my brain trying to figure out why I still have that when I'm trying to not choke up as high and hold the damn handle more now.

Plus my loop is so damn upward even against topspin. Video is such a huge help to improvement. Showing me what I thought was my best stroke is ugly as hell still


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[UpSideDownCarl]

Can someone else have a look at Shuki's legs and what they do when he serves. I was watching and I was more watching the play over the table and something popped out. And I replayed the serve and then a few others.

Just watch what he is doing on the serve. I want to see if it stands out to anyone else.

There is something that works about it because he is set as he contacts. But I want to see if anyone else sees anything.


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[ttmonster]

He is using the wrong foot to stamp all the time hence his weight transfer is an issue. And that is the reason he is using the serve that he is using, I saw Yan An use this kind of serve once before . I think on the forehand serve he is using its okay, but its not okay on the backhand serve

 

[Archosaurus]

Exactly what monster said.

Instead of stomping with the right and dragging the left, he should stomp with the left, and rotate his body around it using it as the pivot, while pushing himself back with the left leg to get into position faster and transfer the weight correctly.

I only looked at it for a few seconds, but it looks like he'd be twisting the hips in the wrong direction when doing a stroke, basically.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Well, the leg is part of it. But let's see if anyone sees. It's true, with that simple, long dead ball serve, right to the middle it may not matter. But....


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[Boogar]

Do you mean that second step?

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Well, I was waiting to see what NextLevel will say because I think he may see what I am talking about. I guess there are a bunch of people who should see it. But NL is the guy who is most active on the forum who really pays attention to things like this. As I said, it is related to what Shuki does with his right leg but it is not THE LEG itself.


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[Boogar]

Now you did it. Im watching it again!

Edit: Okay after watching it again. I noticed that his wheigt is more on his heel, to a point where the toes even leave the ground .Atleast when he is attacking long balls.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Now you did it. Im watching it again!

Edit: Okay after watching it again. I noticed that his wheigt is more on his heel, to a point where the toes even leave the ground .Atleast when he is attacking long balls.

How is that connected to the movement of the right leg on the serve?

 

[Giangt]

How is that connected to the movement of the right leg on the serve?

I haven't read the whole thread, but I am jumping in to comment what you probably are looking for. I am just looking at his footwork now.
TTM pointed out the weight transfer is a bit unusual stomping on the right foot makes it difficult to do a one step/rotational movement to get in position.
Instead, Shuki is using after his stomp two additional steps to get in position after his service which makes him vurnerable on his 3rd ball.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Alright. I will just say it. These are all good observations.

Shuki starts and it looks normal on the serve. The left foot starts forward. When he goes into his motion, his right foot steps forward for the stomp which rotates his hip. In the motion Shuki's hip goes from facing away from the table to facing towards the table. Now this would be good if the hip rotation coincided with the ball contact in some way. In any real way. But the stomp coincides with the END OF THE HIP ROTATION, and the stomp also coincides with the ball contact. So Shuki is making contact for his serve as his hips arrive in the followthrough position.

If he is getting any transfer from the hips into the ball it is very weak from the very end of the hip movement.

For the long dead ball serve he is giving which does not have much speed it doesn't really present an issue (quite risky against a good player to serve slow, long and dead but against this player, not a problem). But, if that is the motion he would use to try to do better serves, he is going to be stuck with serves whose limit is capped by the motion that causes his hips to have finished their movement right about when contact happens. To have a motion that allows a short, fast pop from the hips into the ball right on contact would lead to higher level serves fast. To have the hip almost at the beginning of the motion on contact would also be preferable.

It is almost like imagining hitting the ball after the racket has stopped at the end of the followthrough in a stroke.

It does not present a problem here. But ultimately, if this is a habit engrained in his body, I have a feeling it could limit the potential of his serves.


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