TTDaily: Does the forum need Moderators who are Active on the Forum

[piligrim]

I know I haven't been here for a long while on TTD but there are VERY common people just being here. @Tony's Table Tennis is defo one of them, so is @Tyce. Just look at the people who can give great advice and is active almost everyday. I know there are a lot.

@Dan good luck man, I know you'll make the right decision!

+1 for Tony

 

[PenHoldSandro]

+1 for Tony

Guys, Igor is also active! Do we also give him the mod role?

 

[piligrim]

Guys, Igor is also active! Do we also give him the mod role?

He should be admin!

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Guys, Igor is also active! Do we also give him the mod role?

he will ban every user who boosts, I will likely be the first one that gets kicked out

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

+1 for Tony

thank you for the ones that bought my name up.
I actually had this discussion few years back.
The guys think I have more value on the forum as a neutral party, which allows me freedom to post my views as I see fit.

The guys thought if I was a mod, it would cause limitations to what I post and thus, the forum could miss out in a way and I would be better off being an "expert coach" - this was the title given to me previously.

 

[PenHoldSandro]

He should be admin!

Successor of @Dan for sure!

thank you for the ones that bought my name up.
I actually had this discussion few years back.
The guys think I have more value on the forum as a neutral party, which allows me freedom to post my views as I see fit.

The guys thought if I was a mod, it would cause limitations to what I post and thus, the forum could miss out in a way and I would be better off being an "expert coach" - this was the title given to me previously.

Actually, there is a coach like player who is also a mod, that being @UpSideDownCarl. I don't see how being a mod affects your coaching skills. I really suggest you be a mod, you're a very popular person here.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Successor of @Dan for sure!

Actually, there is a coach like player who is also a mod, that being @UpSideDownCarl. I don't see how being a mod affects your coaching skills. I really suggest you be a mod, you're a very popular person here.

thank you!
it wasn't based on coaching, but rather based on my knowledge and views of professional table tennis.
as you can see, some users are very angered by what I say about some countries table tennis and even think I am anti "enter country name here".

 

[PenHoldSandro]

thank you!
it wasn't based on coaching, but rather based on my knowledge and views of professional table tennis.
as you can see, some users are very angered by what I say about some countries table tennis and even think I am anti "enter country name here".

Honestly, your knowledge about the game is practically as good as coaching. You're very blunt, which I feel like from others' POV would be disrespectful and rude, but I see it as honesty.

We may not share the same views (remember the Jpen stuff haha), but I seriously respect you for your knowledge and helpfulness in ttd.

What do you think of Philippines Table Tennis?

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Honestly, your knowledge about the game is practically as good as coaching. You're very blunt, which I feel like from others' POV would be disrespectful and rude, but I see it as honesty.

We may not share the same views (remember the Jpen stuff haha), but I seriously respect you for your knowledge and helpfulness in ttd.

What do you think of Philippines Table Tennis?

thank you,

I don't know too well, other than you guys have a youngster at 888 and she has some wins over our TPE junior girls, so that is good progress and there is talent there.
I did offer her to train in Taiwan.

A while back Yogibear gave me some introduction to the mens players and I was studying to see how they can fit in, in various European leagues.

I understand there isn't money for players in the Philippines, but many follow it for the university scholarship

The number 1 Philippines university team was in Taiwan last week. I didn't meet up with them as I was in France, and the later part of their trip, I had just returned, and was busy with national trials.

2 weeks ago, I had a player going to Philippines on holiday and I arrange for her to train with the national team for 2 days - a high level chopper.
The big boss of the federation took her and her friend (and 1 or 2 other players) out for dinner, and I was quite impressed that someone of such high position would just take a "university age" player out for dinner. I feel even if I went, I would not expect that too, but she was really just a regular player, a former U18 national team from few years ago.

so huge respect to the big boss and the hospitality provided by the Philippines national team to a regular Taiwanese citizen.

 

[songdavid98]

Do you know him IRL

I do. We played in robert chen's LIC club for a while and were on the same team for JOOLA Teams.

As for his online behavior, he's really just 'yanking your chain', or as the young people call it: 'ragebaiting'
Just ignore him. Or on my tt discord server, i just have him banned.

His IRL behavior is much more mild.

 

[haggisv]

The guys think I have more value on the forum as a neutral party, which allows me freedom to post my views as I see fit.

I think you would make an excellent moderator Tony. I agree though, you'd have to be much more careful what you post, some people will treat you differently, and you'll probably lose some friends as well. It's both an honour and a burden.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I think you would make an excellent moderator Tony. I agree though, you'd have to be much more careful what you post, some people will treat you differently, and you'll probably lose some friends as well. It's both an honour and a burden.

I would nominate you
you have decades of experience and you cover a good time zone too (that the European / Pan Ams don't).

I think I would give Dan too much hard time.
so maybe best, I remain just a forum member.

 

[PenHoldSandro]

I think you would make an excellent moderator Tony. I agree though, you'd have to be much more careful what you post, some people will treat you differently, and you'll probably lose some friends as well. It's both an honour and a burden.

I completely agree with you. I also don't think Tony should be more careful with his posts, I haven't seen anything personal with ANY of his posts, all of them are formal and knowledgable, akin to @UpSideDownCarl.

I would nominate you
you have decades of experience and you cover a good time zone too (that the European / Pan Ams don't).

Yep, @haggisv would also make a very good mod, he's very informative about the sport. I just forgot about him since we don't interact often lol.

I think I would give Dan too much hard time.
so maybe best, I remain just a forum member.

I doubt you will, you'll actually help @Dan out a lot.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I completely agree with you. I also don't think Tony should be more careful with his posts, I haven't seen anything personal with ANY of his posts, all of them are formal and knowledgable, akin to @UpSideDownCarl.

Yep, @haggisv would also make a very good mod, he's very informative about the sport. I just forgot about him since we don't interact often lol.

I doubt you will, you'll actually help @Dan out a lot.

well, first step is to see if Dan wants to appointment any one.
because this mod discussion has been going on for years now (my part, 2023 to be precise, and I was late to the discussion table)

I have been pushing him to do something, and probably have irritated him too.
I also started a thread on 1 April 2025, of which he removed. That thread was to force him to do something (pretty much the same as this thread).
He moved the content of that thread to a private message and apologies and said he will do something about it.

If it wasn't for Carl, I wouldn't be so pushy.
I am happy Carl started this thread, as Carl has been trying to hold things together and naughty members knows this, and that is why there is so much garbage on TTD

you see, if I am a mod, I am not allowed to speak the truth - including the modless situation TTD has - while as some said, the truth will hurt some and loose some friends.

 

[Der_Echte]

I think you would make an excellent moderator Tony. I agree though, you'd have to be much more careful what you post, some people will treat you differently, and you'll probably lose some friends as well. It's both an honour and a burden.

Less than 1% know the importance and impact of DeHaggis over DACADES of TT foruming.

I have seen Tony over a decade plus 1/2 and he should also be heard well when he says something.

It is a real sad reality that Carl cannot pay enough time for free to TTD and LESS than 1% know his historical impact.

If Carl did not exercise his discernment, timely intervention (when he had time) and communication ability, then TTD would have folded LONG AGO.

NTD would be awesum, but he prolly cannot give enough time.

@songdavid98 has all the skillz to do this, but is he also having enough time?

@Dan has had the luxury of Carl being around 10 years longer than Carl wanted to do many things absolutely no one has seen. Smaller forums have teams way more than this one. This is not an easy situation.

 

[PhoenixTT]

I've only been here a short while but I very quickly saw that Carl has the magic touch.

But from what I've seen, a lot of his visible contributions were as a respected and well-liked contributor.

Yes Carl has stepped in here and there as moderator, but I daresay much of his contributions as a moderator / administrator were behind the scenes, invisible to us. Maybe that is a clue to a solution -- the moderators may not need to be very public well-known contributors. They just need to be able to step in when needed and can step back in the shadows after they sort things out (like Dementors, or Demoderators if you will). They just need to be able to be conjured when required.

We can also consider merging Carl's real life with this forum and change it to TableTennisAndYogaDaily?

 

[songdavid98]

Less than 1% know the importance and impact of DeHaggis over DACADES of TT foruming.

I have seen Tony over a decade plus 1/2 and he should also be heard well when he says something.

It is a real sad reality that Carl cannot pay enough time for free to TTD and LESS than 1% know his historical impact.

If Carl did not exercise his discernment, timely intervention (when he had time) and communication ability, then TTD would have folded LONG AGO.

NTD would be awesum, but he prolly cannot give enough time.

@songdavid98 has all the skillz to do this, but is he also having enough time?

@Dan has had the luxury of Carl being around 10 years longer than Carl wanted to do many things absolutely no one has seen. Smaller forums have teams way more than this one. This is not an easy situation.

Actually moderating doesn’t take much “time”.

You just have to use 2 minutes when someone tags your name, look at the situation, and remove the thread or troublemaker. It’s even easier when there’s a team.

I actually visit ttd a lot nowadays. I mostly ignore everything about equipment and tournaments though, which is why I don’t post much.

 

[NextLevel]

I've only been here a short while but I very quickly saw that Carl has the magic touch.

But from what I've seen, a lot of his visible contributions were as a respected and well-liked contributor.

Yes Carl has stepped in here and there as moderator, but I daresay much of his contributions as a moderator / administrator were behind the scenes, invisible to us. Maybe that is a clue to a solution -- the moderators may not need to be very public well-known contributors. They just need to be able to step in when needed and can step back in the shadows after they sort things out (like Dementors, or Demoderators if you will). They just need to be able to be conjured when required.

We can also consider merging Carl's real life with this forum and change it to TableTennisAndYogaDaily?

The problem is really that ultimately, all of these things are up to the The Zyres of the Founder. No one knows or understands what motivates him on this topic since it has been discussed over the years in multiple contexts with multiple parties with no changes being made. If someone told me there was a secret pact with some supernatural entity that precludes the appointment of new moderators on this site, I would have to take it seriously based on how long this has gone on.

 

[NextLevel]

For full transparency, even if it likely means I will no longer be a candidate for moderation, I did offer to moderate the site earlier this month/late last month. I consider Carl a friend and given his priorities, I felt it made no sense to have to alert him every time a flame war was getting out of hand. I moderate at mytabletennis.net already so I am familiar with the process and some of the things you need to do to detect and limit the ability of spammers etc.

Prior to this month, I had always felt that it was better to be able to post freely here and moderating would limit my ability to do that. However, in the past year, people have gotten bolder with the idea that their personal opinions no matter how tasteless and unpopular, are good for forums like this and I think that needs to be revisited. I think you have a right to your judgments for sure, but you also have to realize that not all of them are suitable for a public forum in Europe/USA.

What makes the Founder concerned about making a moderation team similar to what obtains on most forums like mytt or ooakforum, I do not know. But it has gone on long enough that I don't know what will change it. There are lots of good, reasonable members who are willing to step in. So the bottleneck is not the volunteers. And it is okay if ownership/leadership don't want moderators. It's just better to be explicit about it. Then people can make hard choices.

 

[PenHoldSandro]

For full transparency, even if it likely means I will no longer be a candidate for moderation, I did offer to moderate the site earlier this month. I consider Carl a friend and given his priorities, I felt it made no sense to have to alert him every time a flame war was getting out of hand. I moderate at mytabletennis.net already so I am familiar with the process and some of the things you need to do to detect and limit the ability of spammers etc.

I really do hope you become a mod around here! You are also one of the best speakers in this website, and your coaching abilities are top-notch, at least for this website.

Prior to this month, I had always felt that it was better to be able to post freely here and moderating would limit my ability to do that. However, in the past year, people have gotten bolder with the idea that their personal opinions no matter how tasteless and unpopular, are good for forums like this and I think that needs to be revisited. I think you have a right to your judgments for sure, but you also have to realize that not all of them are suitable for a public forum in Europe/USA.

The way I see it, becoming a mod doesn't GREATLY affect your ability to post. Maybe it does a bit, but to an extent where that's a big point is in my opinion, not true.

Well, I mean there are no bad questions, only bad answers. But I do agree people might eventually (or maybe even now) take too much advantage of free will and post something offensive.

What makes the Founder concerned about making a moderation team similar to what obtains on most forums like mytt or ooakforum, I do not know. But it has gone on long enough that I don't know what will change it. There are lots of good, reasonable members who are willing to step in. So the bottleneck is not the volunteers. And it is okay if ownership/leadership don't want moderators. It's just better to be explicit about it. Then people can make hard choices.

Interesting ideas here, in which most claims are right. I feel like the Founder is trying to keep the website as fun and calm as possible, and a team of mods might present as being too controlling??? Idk, but that's where this is leading.

And yeah, people (especially leaders) should be very transparent with their ideas, or else they may lose trust.