What's the best way to practice near table counter-loop?

[driversbeat]

Get your partner up to speed with opening loops first. If they sense that you're frustrated about their shot quality they're likely to get stressed and fumble their shots even more. For more advanced patterns like these it's better to break them down into smaller components and work your way up.

 

[dingyibvs]

maybe that's because the correct reply is to drive it off the bounce. When opponent plays a shot that is giving you time, it seems a mistake to give the time back just for the sake of playing a countertop

Yeah, the high ones should just be smashed. It's the low ones that need to be counter-looped. For those I find it helpful to keep a more compact motion. Don't fully extend your arm on the backswing and really focus on contracting your biceps at contact. Also helps to use a more sidespin loop kind of motion, avoiding some of the heavy topspin on the ball.

 

[John_]

Get a friend with a good consistent topspin, do mini counter topspins on the table with very little power. Once you can do it constantly, up the power a bit. Do that on both fh and backhand and you'll become better.

Repeat is the key to consistency.
Consistency is the key to mastery.
Mastery is the key to victory.

By the way, that goes for everything.

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

compactness is indeed very important
The other point is racket angle should be very closed near parallel to the table and thus you should try to contact the ball from above

Also the body shouldn’t go up during the stroke else the ball will fly out of the table. Try to keep the head low (but dont sink into the ball) during execution and have some forward momentum with the body , trying to have that left leg / knee going forward

Don’t try to go for power at first . Just use the incoming speed and spin. Try instead to use the wrist to put your own spin. That will give much more control.

I would say that when practicing it’s a better sign that the ball ends up into the net rather than out.

 

[NetProphet]

My advice is to keep your racket high at the starting point so you don't end up counter looping the ball out. I also agree with keeping your stroke short and compact. In other words, it is completely different from looping backspin. If you can keep your racket high, plus keeping your stroke short and compact, you should not have a problem with it. And yes, get a good training partner. as well.

It's not a loop then right?
Or am I understanding incorrectly?
Are you describing a driving counter-hit stroke?
V a slow, high, spinny, opening loop that he describes I just try to close the bat angle and hit through the ball

 

[blahness]

compactness is indeed very important
The other point is racket angle should be very closed near parallel to the table and thus you should try to contact the ball from above

Also the body shouldn’t go up during the stroke else the ball will fly out of the table. Try to keep the head low (but dont sink into the ball) during execution and have some forward momentum with the body , trying to have that left leg / knee going forward

Don’t try to go for power at first . Just use the incoming speed and spin. Try instead to use the wrist to put your own spin. That will give much more control.

I would say that when practicing it’s a better sign that the ball ends up into the net rather than out.

Agreed, it should feel like 'hugging' when done correctly. Still, I think it is only easy when the incoming loop quality is low. If the loop quality is high I wouldnt bother with the counterloop. Just do a safe counter using sideways movement to neutralize the incoming speed/spin, and use the body to press down on the ball, and then just focus on placement. Much safer than a counterloop and still very dangerous if your placement is good.