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Which countries have the strongest club level (non-pro) players in the world? What would be the top 5 countries?
You would not be asking these questions if you saw the old people here in Chinese clubs. Our school team is good, but one of the weaker members got whacked by a history teacher.Which countries have the strongest club level (non-pro) players in the world? What would be the top 5 countries?
Let me hazard a guess, the OP's intention is more of coffee-shop talk or bar-talk in the US context. Such a general question, should ideally be posted in the Daily TT Chit-chat thread rather than a thread on its own.He has no intention to engage it in serious talk on this matter and is just asking per casual conversation i.e., coffee-shop / bar talk ( which is nothing wrong in my opinion ).Its tough to say non pro.You need to be eliminating the super/premier, 1st/2nd divisions etc.Once you go lower down to say regional (european) or jia c (China) etc. Then its difficult to say, because you may still have semi pros playing in there (players who play full time).I honestly don't understand the purpose or motive for such question or can't make out how the answer would make any meaning.The definition of "pro" first need to be establish before any answer with merit can be providedThen would retired pro be considered etc.I think just like any sport, you can have a world club championships. No one makes a world club 5th division championships lol.I would say China Jia C for example, which can be mixed with a lot of provincial players/juniors/dropped out (these are still pro system trained, so does it make it ineligible?), would still be higher than a regional level club of your German / French for example.Sweden is actually not that strong, the playing numbers has maybe neared half of what it used to be (of the heights in era of Waldner)
Let me hazard a guess, the OP's intention is more of coffee-shop talk or bar-talk in the US context. Such a general question, should ideally be posted in the Daily TT Chit-chat thread rather than a thread on its own. He has no intention to engage it in serious talk on this matter and is just asking per casual conversation i.e., coffee-shop / bar talk.
Then I won't waste any more of my serious time for non serious matter
Is UK stronger than US in TT club level?
It just got me thinking, what countries are strong in the club level.
there are many countries where the average player is stronger than in the US.
For sure in China, Japan and many European countries like Germany, Sweden, France etc.
Germany and France offering best lucrative salary. Sweden and Japanese native players strive for German leagues as gnuts for a honey drop.
Be happy.
Don't really think you understood OPs question.
Anyways, Japanese in German leagues?
they only just starting....however, Germany money is peanuts compared to what they get in Japan
Japanese going to German or foreign league is a new strategy they are implementing, due to "not enough" match practice with "other styles of play" and to train "leaving comfort zone"
It is no brainier of the 10s of thousands of kids that learn TT "professional" from elementary school level in China.Just to digress a little.
I have a player who comes once a year. He emigrated to the US but comes back once a year during winter for holiday. He lives in Chinatown, NY. He said the TT scene in Chinatown is pretty much dominated by people of East Asian origin, specifically Chinese ( no brainer here ). Their standard are pretty diverse, from very good to pretty low level. His level is pretty above average when compared to my club average but his level is pretty low skill when he meets those academic trained player from China ( e.g. students )
Well i was watching TTD reviews and league matches. Ive actually never seen players so good live before. Definitely the best players in my city are not that good I don't think. Someone said Dan was a top 50 UK player before. But even now, he seems extremely good to me. But I never even thought of UK as a major table tennis nation. Also sometimes i see rubber reviews from TT11 or TTmaximum, and these eastern European clubs seem really good as well.
Is UK stronger than US in TT club level?
It just got me thinking, what countries are strong in the club level.
Basically majority of US and UK players are not professionals.
They don't earn money (or much money) as players from within they own countries.
So definition of professional needs to be determined.
Based on playing level, USA has a huge influx of Chinese champions, national players, provincial players. As well as former champs from Europe.
So USA has a really high level of coaches/training partners, so that is why in 10 to 20 years, they made it from no where to Championship division.
There is no league in USA, only tournaments.
For UK, they really on its close proximity to Europe and with European clubs.
UK is quite highly ranked in TT - just look at the amount of players they have in the top 100. The wins in world champs/CG etc.
Funny enough, TT started from UK, just like where 90% of the sports are from too.
But they are not really seen as the world leaders, but are still in the front.
Which city are you from?
I just had a look at an old players list.
Jia D of China had your Chinese para champs (world para champs), many national players from "tier 2" countries.
provincial team of weaker provinces etc
Then like Yi A league, you still have junior provincial teams.
While going through the old list, I saw 2 players I know (know they coach very well), in Yi A league.
at they pinnacle, they were top 100 players in the world.
What are they doing in a Chinese 5th division league.... lol
They are good enough to be in Jia A (one down from super league) at that time.
Let me hazard a guess, the OP's intention is more of coffee-shop talk or bar-talk in the US context. Such a general question, should ideally be posted in the Daily TT Chit-chat thread rather than a thread on its own.He has no intention to engage it in serious talk on this matter and is just asking per casual conversation i.e., coffee-shop / bar talk ( which is nothing wrong in my opinion ).
So, in the spirit of casual conversation, I would say my answer is:
1. Kingdom of Wakanda
2. Republic of Sokovia
3. Nation of Kun-Lun
4. Kingdom of Latveria
5. Nation of Markovia
I know Attilan has been making alot of noise recently on the circuit. Before that they were really very quiet. A good but unconventional set of players....