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Zaid323918
03-23-2017, 08:05 PM
Hi all,
On my Stiga Infinity VPS V, I had the blade lacquered and my rubber feels softer than normal. It also plays a little weird. I just wanted to know whether it's inconsistent quality from Andro or the lacquer.
Thanks

TTFrenzy
03-23-2017, 08:18 PM
Hi all,
On my Stiga Infinity VPS V, I had the blade lacquered and my rubber feels softer than normal. It also plays a little weird. I just wanted to know whether it's inconsistent quality from Andro or the lacquer.
Thanks


Tough and weird question, lacquering always changes the feeling of the external wood surface, not the rubber unless you have done something teriibly wrong. The expected result should be taht you feel the blade a bit harder with less feedback than before. You should change rubber to be sure or make a test with another vps v and same rubbers to be 100 % accurate on what is going on

Zaid323918
03-23-2017, 09:05 PM
well I didn't put the lacquer. I had the racket pre-assembled and lacquered by TT11. Maybe it's cuz the lacquer and/or glue is fresh. I mean on my partner's blade he has Rasant Grip on both sides and the black has more power and spin and it's slightly harder. (TT11 assembled it etc) So maybe rubber is different i don't know.

yoass
03-23-2017, 09:13 PM
My black Grip also feels slightly harder, and also turns out more durable. Noticed the same phenomenon on Friendship rubbers.

Zaid323918
03-23-2017, 09:26 PM
My black Grip also feels slightly harder, and also turns out more durable. Noticed the same phenomenon on Friendship rubbers.
Oh ok so Andro does have inconsistent product quality issues.

yoass
03-23-2017, 09:32 PM
Maybe the reds are consistently lower in quality; couldn't say.

Baal
03-23-2017, 09:50 PM
Sometimes you get a bad glue job with sealed or laquered blades. The blade surface is less porous so less adhesion because glue can't penstrate. Then you can get air pockets underneeth and the rubber feels mushy and soft. Or the rubber pegins to detach around outside of the blade. I am almost certain this is what happened to ypur blade.. I dont seal blades anymore to avoid that. But I use glues that dont shred the top of the wood.

Zaid323918
03-23-2017, 09:56 PM
Sometimes you get a bad glue job with sealed or laquered blades. The blade surface is less porous so less adhesion because glue can't penstrate. Then you can get air pockets underneeth and the rubber feels mushy and soft. Or the rubber pegins to detach around outside of the blade. I am almost certain this is what happened to ypur blade.. I dont seal blades anymore to avoid that. But I use glues that dont shred the top of the wood.

Yeah I just checked and its mainly feelin soft around the edges so should I reglue the rubber?

yoass
03-23-2017, 10:09 PM
Affirmative.

johnh
03-24-2017, 03:45 AM
Maybe a placebo effect


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Zaid323918
03-24-2017, 04:54 AM
Maybe a placebo effect


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what is a place placebo

UpSideDownCarl
03-24-2017, 06:19 AM
Placebo: look it up. You will find out what a placebo effect is. It will be in your computer's dictionary.

Sealed blade. Blade sealing, done well has very little effect on the blade's playing characteristics. It will have some, but done well, not much. Done by someone who does not know what they are doing it has more of an effect. If TT11 sealed your blade, they probably know what they are doing. So it is likely that Baal is correct.

yoass
03-24-2017, 07:35 AM
I'd rather consider it a nocebo effect, if anything but unsubstantial.

Baal
03-25-2017, 09:59 PM
If the ruber is a little loose or unusually soft around the edges, for sure it is the glue job. It happens a lot with lacquer or sealers, especially with thick-pored sponge which can be a little tougher to attach. You can try regluing, but I suggest very light sanding first.

Zaid323918
03-25-2017, 10:22 PM
If the ruber is a little loose or unusually soft around the edges, for sure it is the glue job. It happens a lot with lacquer or sealers, especially with thick-pored sponge which can be a little tougher to attach. You can try regluing, but I suggest very light sanding first.

so where would I sand it? Remove the rubber first? Sand the edges that are loose.

Baal
03-26-2017, 12:07 AM
Remove the rubber. Very lightly sand the whole blade surface. Reglue.

Spinlord 2709
08-23-2018, 03:38 PM
So, if I don't seal the blade, will feel better it's characteristics, but there is a posibility for my blade to splinter?

massa
08-23-2018, 03:52 PM
If you do a good varnish job you will notice no difference and it will prevent blade splintering, but that also depends of your gluing

Spinlord 2709
08-23-2018, 03:56 PM
I think I'll let tt11 do this for me and the feel is something I need, that's why I am thinking so much about it. P.S. tt11 uses water glues right?