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kjanko
07-26-2013, 09:53 AM
Hey guys,

recently I got a new sheet of Skyline 2 Neo, however I'm facing a big issue with it. I've played with it exactly 5 times (1h session) with pauses between the sessions. The rubber lost all its tackiness and feels totally dead. What could be the issue? Can I restore it somehow? The topsheet still looks like It's new, but the magic is not there.

I did use plastic cover sheets and cleaned with it a little bit of water.

MDanielCRO
07-26-2013, 12:00 PM
Hey guys,

recently I got a new sheet of Skyline 2 Neo, however I'm facing a big issue with it. I've played with it exactly 5 times (1h session) with pauses between the sessions. The rubber lost all its tackiness and feels totally dead. What could be the issue? Can I restore it somehow? The topsheet still looks like It's new, but the magic is not there.

I did use plastic cover sheets and cleaned with it a little bit of water.


You shouldn't use tacky plastic cover sheets, I don't know about cleaning tacky rubber with water, but you payed maybe 20$ for it, what did you expect?

Der_Echte
07-26-2013, 03:46 PM
Easy way to bring the tackiness back to life.

Clean rubber with water and lemon juice.

Rub Olive Oil onto topsheet in a few coats.

Wipe dry with clean cloth.

Moisten topsheet with breath and immediately place regular plastic protective sheet on topsheet and rub with finger to ensure it sticks.

Leave overnight.

VOILLA! You have a new tacky topsheet each time.

You can forward me the price of my BH rubber for this advice.

William.

BTW, my BH rubber in my sig costs a whopping $7.

Cheers.

decoy
07-26-2013, 03:52 PM
never cleaned my tacky rubbers with anything but breathing or water. and they seem to last well over 2 years until they bubble

kjanko
07-26-2013, 03:54 PM
Easy way to bring the tackiness back to life.

Clean rubber with water and lemon juice.

Rub Olive Oil onto topsheet in a few coats.

Wipe dry with clean cloth.

Moisten topsheet with breath and immediately place regular plastic protective sheet on topsheet and rub with finger to ensure it sticks.

Leave overnight.

VOILLA! You have a new tacky topsheet each time.

You can forward me the price of my BH rubber for this advice.

William.

BTW, my BH rubber in my sig costs a whopping $7.

Cheers.

Wouldn't olive oil make bubbles on the topsheet & soften the sponge?

MDanielCRO
07-26-2013, 05:23 PM
Wouldn't olive oil make bubbles on the topsheet & soften the sponge?

No it wouldn't I tried this but don't belieave this guy lol this method looks sily I think he is joking

HLDang
07-26-2013, 11:23 PM
The olive oil trick actually helps extend life span of a rubber, but I'd only use it as last resort and if you're waiting on a new sheet to come in.

kjanko
07-27-2013, 01:08 AM
The olive oil trick actually helps extend life span of a rubber, but I'd only use it as last resort and if you're waiting on a new sheet to come in.

The thing is, this is a new sheet. It's ~7 days old

Benduo
07-27-2013, 01:14 AM
My Skyline II lost all of its tack pretty quickly as well, but I think thats normal for the skyline series. It stay makes enormous spin though...

dici
07-27-2013, 01:46 AM
There few reasons, but I would say check on the playing environment first. If the playing place has alot of dust? Like usually people wear not playing shoes and walk around at the TT playing floor. This will leaves alots of dirt and catched by the ball, then by the rubber.

I was used to play inside a church, so I having the similar of issue too. The only way is keep cleaning it and cover it. In fact, there is no issue with using either the plastic protector or any cleaner.

Right now I moved to other country, and we play TT inside a squash court, which the floor is much much cleaner. So far, I don't have this issue even my last piece of TG2 is from last year. Although I still changed it just for a competition last week.

kjanko
07-27-2013, 02:26 AM
There few reasons, but I would say check on the playing environment first. If the playing place has alot of dust? Like usually people wear not playing shoes and walk around at the TT playing floor. This will leaves alots of dirt and catched by the ball, then by the rubber.

I was used to play inside a church, so I having the similar of issue too. The only way is keep cleaning it and cover it. In fact, there is no issue with using either the plastic protector or any cleaner.

Right now I moved to other country, and we play TT inside a squash court, which the floor is much much cleaner. So far, I don't have this issue even my last piece of TG2 is from last year. Although I still changed it just for a competition last week.

Yeah but if the issue is related to the environment & dirt, once I clean the topsheet the tack should be back no?
The mixture of lemon juice & water helped a bit, at least It can pick up the ball now for 1-2 seconds :)

Der_Echte
07-27-2013, 03:15 AM
The lemon juice and water will give back over 1/2 the original tackiness back. You can moisten with breath, cover with regular plastic protective sheets overnight and get it back to 80%.

The Olive Oil is super for tacky rubbers and gets you all the way back to normal.

Anyone doubting this treatment to clean/restore can ask Hookshot over at MyTT or OOAK. He will tell you the deal and it works.

Although William IS a JOKER (and PROUD of it) I was completely serious in the Olive Oil recommendation.

I am convinced that if this is a 7 day old rubber, the playing surface of the table and floor made the rubber less tacky.

H3 NEO is NOT an extremely Tacky rubber. it can hold the ball 5-7 seconds if you condition it right, but it is not nearly as tacky as true Chinese topsheets.

Myself, I like my H3 Neo only half tacky. great balance that way, at least for me...

decoy
07-27-2013, 03:26 AM
also instead of olive oil you could use WD40 or equivalent

kjanko
07-27-2013, 03:32 AM
The lemon juice and water will give back over 1/2 the original tackiness back. You can moisten with breath, cover with regular plastic protective sheets overnight and get it back to 80%.

The Olive Oil is super for tacky rubbers and gets you all the way back to normal.

Anyone doubting this treatment to clean/restore can ask Hookshot over at MyTT or OOAK. He will tell you the deal and it works.

Although William IS a JOKER (and PROUD of it) I was completely serious in the Olive Oil recommendation.

I am convinced that if this is a 7 day old rubber, the playing surface of the table and floor made the rubber less tacky.

H3 NEO is NOT an extremely Tacky rubber. it can hold the ball 5-7 seconds if you condition it right, but it is not nearly as tacky as true Chinese topsheets.

Myself, I like my H3 Neo only half tacky. great balance that way, at least for me...

I'll try the olive oil treatment soon :) And I'm using TG2 Neo, not H3 :D When I received it It held the ball for 15s +

@decoy, I'll try WD40 is the Olive Oil doesn't work.

decoy
07-27-2013, 04:41 AM
shey should both work as well as each other really.. just remember to wire the oil off before playing. quick way to know if your rubber is tacky enough is to run it agaisnt your arm if it squeaks you are in good shape. but reeally you should need to teat the rubber if you jsut bought it. there subbers do accumilate dust fast damp cloth and some wiping should be enough.

also if the rubber has a identification number on the rubber side then its the new gen topsheets.. which arent as tacky as the old gen rubbers

HLDang
07-27-2013, 05:06 AM
I found that Chinese rubber lose their tackiness but keep their grippiness very well though.

Der_Echte
07-27-2013, 05:36 AM
The two major Chinese semi-tacky topsheets I use are H3 and 999. Both are only JUST tacky topsheets, not extreme tacky topsheets.

I allow some buildup and wipe frequently to get the topsheet to be less tacky than original. I like it 1/2 as tacky as original. That helps the pace and makes it play more Japanese/Euro. Both topsheets on a decent sponge are excellent rubbers for humid conditions in the summer. Very stable and you know what you are getting. There are too many horror stories over a great rubber like T05 go completely to crap in extreme humidity.

decoy
07-27-2013, 05:02 PM
t05 does go extremely crap in humid conditions :P 100 percent of the time.. also the black looses grip faster than the red :O

MDanielCRO
07-28-2013, 10:14 AM
t05 also the black looses grip faster than the red :O

That is true, When I buy new rubbers red is still in good condition but with black I can't play anymore, even if I use it on the backhand, weird

kjanko
08-04-2013, 12:13 PM
This might sound funny, but I accidentally spilled a little Red Bull on it and that shit restored the tackiness back to original :D

Der_Echte
08-04-2013, 12:32 PM
You need to piss inside a bottle and add the red bull and add a label to the product calling it Glowing Bull Piss Restorer and you will become a millionaire... in Turkish Lira.