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TTStefanoT05FX
04-26-2011, 11:23 PM
okay so my paddle keeps getting full of dust after i play so im always cleaning it .. for some reason i dont feel like my tenergy05 is the same as when i first got it.. :( im i using to much rubber cleaner?
someone PLEASE answer..

http://www.pingpongonline.com/shop/images/energy_foam.jpg

kaikaz
04-27-2011, 12:44 AM
Not sure if its bad for your rubber. All I know is nobody in my club is using any cleaner. We just ?exhale? on our rubbers so they get a little wet and whipe it off with your t shirt.

Btw I wouldnt use the sticky things you get when you buy a new rubber. They say its better when you stick them on your rubber when you are done playing but its bull****. They become dusty and you just put it on your rubber.

My suggestion, dont waste your money on cleaning products or anything. Just a little water will do or what I said above.

First
04-27-2011, 01:23 AM
Cleaning agents should not be used more than twice a week. Outlines rubber palm and that's it. ;)

TTStefanoT05FX
04-27-2011, 01:48 AM
ooohh okay.. so i just exhale and clean okay.. thanks

sunilcse04
04-27-2011, 03:01 AM
Monthly once i used to clean my old training bat's rubber with sunflower oil. I just used to apply some 3-4 drops n spread it out with a brush... then wipe it with a cloth n leave it to dry.. it regains its tackiness n rubber's performance is good for another one month.. This is just to revive old rubbers.. :D

TTStefanoT05FX
04-27-2011, 03:14 AM
ive try that on other bats and doesnt work..

Justchill
04-27-2011, 08:26 AM
Not sure if its bad for your rubber. All I know is nobody in my club is using any cleaner. We just ?exhale? on our rubbers so they get a little wet and whipe it off with your t shirt.

Btw I wouldnt use the sticky things you get when you buy a new rubber. They say its better when you stick them on your rubber when you are done playing but its bull****. They become dusty and you just put it on your rubber.

My suggestion, dont waste your money on cleaning products or anything. Just a little water will do or what I said above.

That is BS, my friend.

You can use the cleaner, after your playing or training session.
Than, use the sticky things, but make sure they are clean, so wash them under the sink with some water. The stickyness remains after washing! You can use some soap to clean the sheets also.

Here is a good movie:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-0UF6nV080&feature=watch_response

snotvod
04-27-2011, 09:15 AM
A clean shammy and some tap water, that's what I do every time I go out. More to have a "clean" mind than to have a clean bat actually.

poltery
04-27-2011, 09:34 AM
i have a dhs h3 neo and everyafter a game i clean it with a wet sponge and until now that its 4 months old it's still super tacky much better than ever just sharing

KevinTT
04-27-2011, 10:23 AM
I dont use the cleaner from andro/butterfly.
I use a special thing in germany its called "kernseife" with a little bit water.
Its fine!

Bollforte94
04-27-2011, 11:47 AM
I use only water :P

Daniel94
04-27-2011, 11:54 AM
Using too much rubber cleaner will damage your rubber. It's better to use only water I think. :)

Ndragon
04-27-2011, 01:15 PM
Use only water and put sticky protective sheets on after. If you are only putting the sheets on a clean rubber then they will never get dirty. But if they are dirty then dont put them on without washing them.
Tenergy should last at least 6 months playing 3-4 times a week.

TTOski
04-27-2011, 02:41 PM
I never use a cleaner because its taking a little layer off the sponge every time you're cleaning it! Just use som water and that's i good at the cleaner!

ddudhane
04-27-2011, 06:50 PM
I must be confused. I thought the cleaner was a solution for the rubber surface, not the sponge. Pls enlighten me! :)

sidthelefty
04-27-2011, 08:53 PM
the cleaner is for the rubber surface i think he ment that but put sponge

TTStefanoT05FX
04-28-2011, 12:21 AM
ohhh noo, i play everyday..

kaikaz
04-28-2011, 12:56 AM
That is BS, my friend.

You can use the cleaner, after your playing or training session.
Than, use the sticky things, but make sure they are clean, so wash them under the sink with some water. The stickyness remains after washing! You can use some soap to clean the sheets also.

Here is a good movie:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-0UF6nV080&feature=watch_response

I used a cleaner years back and my rubbers didnt last as long as they do now.

Nobody in my club is using a cleaner. My rubbers last for about 3-4 months (playing 4-5 times a week).

So I guess you dont really need to use cleaners.

About the sticky things you might be right if you say it like that. But I'm too lazy to wash the dust of the sticky sheets, so I used to put them on my rubbers and then all the dust was still on it. Not using them anymore cos I dont think my rubbers last longer when im using those sticky things.

on topic: water and a sponge will do.

vidadsk8
04-28-2011, 02:09 AM
i used the sponged used to clean cars, i think they call it shamay, dont really know how it's spelled, the think is that everyone in my club uses that, you wet it enough to clean your rubber, and then i put some nittaku autoadhesive protectors, and uff...its just perfect, the thing is u need to keep clean your protectors, with water you can clean them and the adhesive part will not come off...
blessings

YosuaYosan
04-28-2011, 10:03 AM
Too much using rubber cleaner could make a Yasaka antipower have a tacky topsheet.
Happens to my friend.

Currently using a cleaner but rarely uses it.
It seems that sponge and water is the best solution :D

Steve23
04-30-2011, 12:20 PM
I clean my rubbers with a damp sponge using water and it seems fine

YosuaYosan
05-01-2011, 12:55 PM
Did you know that some tt manufacturer made an 'evil' cleaner that makes your rubber wear out quickly so you can buy another rubber ?

poltery
05-01-2011, 02:29 PM
Did you know that some tt manufacturer made an 'evil' cleaner that makes your rubber wear out quickly so you can buy another rubber ?
LOL nice way to attract customers hahah nice

YosuaYosan
05-01-2011, 03:56 PM
sadly its true :(

Justchill
11-07-2011, 01:41 PM
Currently I'm using Joola Cleaner, but I'm going to revert to plain water. I think the cleaner remove grip and tackiness... Anyone else using vegetable oils on rubbers?

Bryce
11-08-2011, 08:27 AM
Using water? i used it on my h3 neo and my coach said that i shouldn't use it as he felt that the topsheet lost its grip and tackiness o.o

poltery
11-08-2011, 11:24 AM
Using water? i used it on my h3 neo and my coach said that i shouldn't use it as he felt that the topsheet lost its grip and tackiness o.o
uhmm... i use it with 2 drops in a car sponge cleaner :)

UpSideDownCarl
11-08-2011, 01:18 PM
The cleaners actually have chemicals that cause the rubber to break down. It is not like the tt companies are doing that on purpose. It is just that, if you use any form of detergent, it causes the rubber to break down. Water on a sponge is fine and does what you need it to. Not too much water. You want the dust off and the topsheet dry as fast as possible. There are some cleaners that are designed to make the topsheet more tacky for a short time like Spin Max. Those are different but the effect does not last. They are not detergent so I do not think they break down the rubber but, they are not really needed, and the effect is very short lived and only works on Tacky type rubbers not smooth grippy Japanese or German style rubbers like Tenergy. Oils expand the rubber and so, for a few weeks they will make the topsheet more grippy. But oils do cause rubber to break down and will ultimately cause the rubber to be dead sooner.

In my opinion, if the rubber is dead, then using something like oil, to get a little more use out if it is fine. Oil on the sponge makes the sponge expand and gives a mild speed glue like effect. Oil on the topsheet can make some topsheets more grippy for a few weeks. But I would not do either of these things unless the rubber is basically dead and you are trying to prolong the life of the rubber so you don't have to buy your next sheet quite as soon. Organic rubber just breaks down and deteriorates over time you cannot stop that from happening. However, things like cleaning solutions, detergents and oils can speed that process. But since oils expand the rubber, they can have an interesting effect if the rubber is already dead.

Belisar
11-09-2011, 12:23 AM
Most cleaners seem to reduce the life of the rubber. I thought spin max actually stripped the outer layer of the rubber off which is why it made it seem more tacky (if so it also drastically reduces the life of the rubber). Is Spin max not illegal as it changes the characteristics of the rubber?

I use spit (which is basically water). Life versus effect I suppose.

Mr. RicharD
11-09-2011, 03:40 AM
For training and such you really only want to use water and what not, but at tournaments a cleaner would technically help get sweat and grime off of the rubber. I recommend everyone stop buying rubber cleaners from the name brands. It doesn't matter if it's in spray or foam form for it to clean all Rubber cleaners use a small percentage of window/glass cleaner and distilled water. There may be other chemicals in it, but usually that's just for it to foam up or if it's in spray form it's to keep the solution from evaporating too fast. You should just try using 10 % glass cleaner and 90 % water; distilled is the best, but any kind will do for a quick clean.

UpSideDownCarl
11-10-2011, 01:57 PM
I think water is good enough. I would not waste time putting glass cleaner into water when water alone does the job. The detergent in the glass cleaner would probably have some of those same chemicals that is in the cleaners from the TT companies that cause the rubber on your topsheet to break down.

I think the water based Spin Max just adds a film of something that makes the topsheet a little more tacky until it is washed off. But it is true that using it would be against the rules since it will change the playing characteristics of the tophsheet, and I would not use that either.

Just water. I have seen people use paper towels, I have a cool sponge that I keep in a travel soap dish but that is not needed either. I just like it. :)

Here is good info on cleaning your rubbers from About.com: http://tabletennis.about.com/od/equipment/a/paddle_care.htm

WiWa
11-10-2011, 02:31 PM
If there is some dust on my rubber, I just use breath to make it moist and wipe it with my hand or arm, or a towel or my shirt :)

r7racer
11-11-2011, 02:35 AM
I also use water at the end of my session. Most cleaners can dry out the rubber faster, making it feel more dead if they are used too often. The oil on the topsheet gives some of that life back into the dying/dry rubbers, so you can use them a few more weeks/months

Justchill
11-12-2011, 12:20 PM
anybody tried olive oil?

olvarox
11-12-2011, 01:48 PM
Use a bit of water + a drop of "dreft" (the thing you put in the water to do your dishes)
It will degrease the rubber and remove all dust. If you have a little spraybottle, you can just spray it on the rubber and wipe it off with a sponge.

phillypong
11-12-2011, 03:05 PM
Just use a drop of dreft or other dishwashing liquid and some water to clean, if you feel the rubber has lost his grip, use a thin layer of WD40 (Google it to see what it is) and spread it out on the rubber surface evenly, let dry for about 30 min or more (repeat 2 to 3 times if necessary), your rubber will have better grip/spin again. I use this method and play 2 years with the same rubber.

You can also lightly boost a rubber by using the WD40 on the sponge side (about 2 to 3 layers also), it is a lot cheaper than Bio Booster (this is just like paraffine oil = lamp oil).

theinvisible
12-19-2011, 01:37 AM
OMG I just bought a Butterfly cleaner and Yasaka sponge yesterday. They r quite expensive.
Any advice on how to use them correctly? Thanks a lot!

Dan
12-19-2011, 01:41 AM
OMG I just bought a Butterfly cleaner and Yasaka sponge yesterday. They r quite expensive.
Any advice on how to use them correctly? Thanks a lot!

Welcome to the site invisible :)

Hope you like it here, I use to use cleaners when I was younger. You apply a thin layer to the rubber and then go over it with a sponge.. Example below

http://www.customtabletennis.co.uk/images/T/5444_0[1].jpg

However, yes these cleaners are expensive and my coach has told me.. just a minimal damp sponge with water will have the same effect :)

Hope this helps

theinvisible
12-19-2011, 01:49 AM
Oh I forgot to say "HI" :)
Thanks for your info, Dan. I'll try it!