Some Inspiration for Forehand Players

[SquareBall]

I agree with Suga, felt the same reading Mat?s response.
When reading TT rogue opinion though I felt like I had noticed all this things on my technique. So I would be surprised if TT rogue comments aren?t accurate.
I would like to hear Mat opinion on what he would like to see this player improving on his forehand technique.

 

[pgpg]

I probably won't be makin' a lot of friends with this, but i think it certainly should be said/wrote.

Fellas, i think we all should relax a bit.



On the first point i totally disagree, but i believe you have been tought this way. I had a very big argument about this at the Hessische Meisterschaften 2 years ago with the head umpire about this.
My hair grew a little too long and hence i was wearing a cap. Some narrow minded Idiot complained about this, so the umpire came and told me to remove it. I answered that nobody bothers about this in Tennis, so why then in Tabletennis and that if he can show me the paragraph then i'd certainly remove it. Well, my friend who was coaching me stepped in and i gave in and then removed it. But that really's been bugging me a while.

But your second point isn't that wrong.....



Matt, i don't think he has read your blog or knows exactly who you are. So after all i don't see bare negativity and you shouldn't react that hard.
I think there is a BIG difference between destructive critique out of pure negativity and constructive critique, which is tryin' to give hints how it can be done better.
As a matter of fact, he tried to show, what he thinks can be done better.
Different coaches see different things.... Do i need to say more??

One thought: sometimes being too close to a picture prevents one from getting the full pic. So i think instead of overreacting you rather should be thankful for spotting out weaknesses that could maybe take your training partner 100 to 200 ranking points higher.

I really hope you don't react like this on every post that doesn't exactly share the same sight on things like you do.
Man, after all it's just critique. Nothing more nothing less..

Just a thought...



Although i really like many of your posts, Ilia, i totally disagree and think your vid is a bit misplaced, bro.
You guys shouldn't be so handy on such heavy accusations of being a troll. Just click on TT-Rogue's profile and check the posts he made.
It should be clear now, that he certainly doesn't just troll this forum.
A troll would rather write something like e.g. "stupid-video, lol"
And certainly wouldn't write this here:



So i think it's actually time for some apologies.





These here are some very very disappointing posts.
NL i expected better from you. What do you want to prove? That if his technique is weaker as yours he shouldn't post anymore or actually even shouldn't coach anymore???? Following this logic someone only can coach if he's good enough? Man, i don't think so, 'cause otherwise a few people then shouldn't coach anymore.

I know a few coaches who aren't such good players but certainly are very well respected coaches. One of my friends is one. He gave up practicing cause he doesn't have the time to play himself cause he needs the coaching money to feed his family.

You guys react like someone discredited a king. How could he dare write such a thing and not bow down like all the others??? This is still a free Internet and everyone should feel free enough to share his thoughts, even if they are not always to everybody's likes.

I know you probably won't like to read this, but i felt this here should really be said/wrote...

PEACE!!!

First - I think you just implied that TT_Rogue is a "narrow minded idiot", which was probably unintended, but hilarious nevertheless. Second, if you re-read his original comment, it did not have a single positive thing to say. None. And that was about a stroke of 2700-rated player, I am only imagining how many flaws TT_Rogue would find with Timo Boll's FH.

So, reaction of others can be summed up as "who the %^&% are you and do you have any proof that you actually know what you are talking about? ". TT forums are filled with armchair generals who wax poetically about throw angles, proper wrist action and elbow positioning. Some, if not most, are significantly worse than people they criticize. So, request to 'show your own video'" is just an easiest way to establish credibility of the speaker. If you want to argue that someone can be average player, but an excellent coach - that's fine too: share videos of someone you coached.

And yes, free internet argument goes both ways - he shared his thoughts and got some back.

 

[Suga D]

First - I think you just implied that TT_Rogue is a "narrow minded idiot", which was probably unintended, but hilarious nevertheless. Second, if you re-read his original comment, it did not have a single positive thing to say. None. And that was about a stroke of 2700-rated player, I am only imagining how many flaws TT_Rogue would find with Timo Boll's FH.

So, reaction of others can be summed up as "who the %^&% are you and do you have any proof that you actually know what you are talking about? ". TT forums are filled with armchair generals who wax poetically about throw angles, proper wrist action and elbow positioning. Some, if not most, are significantly worse than people they criticize. So, request to 'show your own video'" is just an easiest way to establish credibility of the speaker. If you want to argue that someone can be average player, but an excellent coach - that's fine too: share videos of someone you coached.

And yes, free internet argument goes both ways - he shared his thoughts and got some back.

I agree, Thomas Keinath is a very good example of someone not having a technique like in the schoolbooks and still reached a quite high level, most of us would be happy to reach.

See, this is exactly what i meant. Of course there are armchair generals all over the different TT-Forums. But in fact i wanted to make clear, that this isn't a new PNut. As a matter of fact he seems to know pretty good, what he's talkin' 'bout.
And IMHO if he is a good player or not or a coach or not doesn't make any difference if that, what he thinks he sees is right or wrong. That just doesn't make it more right or more wrong. Please correct me, if this is not accurate.

If he would see something that could be corrected in my technique i would rather be happy instead of being pissed. I would say rather somebody on a forum pointa out my weaknesses for me to work on than an opponent in a match and it's too late for work.

So no reason for everyone jumpin' on him, like a mob whose leader just got discredited.

 

[bobpuls]

how many flaws TT_Rogue would find with Timo Boll's FH.

Timo boll is often playing Fh lie down on the floor which is not good position for Fh.

 

[pgpg]

I agree, Thomas Keinath is a very good example of someone not having a technique like in the schoolbooks and still reached a quite high level, most of us would be happy to reach.

See, this is exactly what i meant. Of course there are armchair generals all over the different TT-Forums. But in fact i wanted to make clear, that this isn't a new PNut. As a matter of fact he seems to know pretty good, what he's talkin' 'bout.
And IMHO if he is a good player or not or a coach or not doesn't make any difference if that, what he thinks he sees is right or wrong. That just doesn't make it more right or more wrong. Please correct me, if this is not accurate.

If he would see something that could be corrected in my technique i would rather be happy instead of being pissed.

So no reason for everyone jumpin' on him, like a mob whose leader just got discredited.

A lot of people can write and talk convincingly about various subjects, at lest for a while. How do we know what they say is correct (which includes self-reported credentials on the internet forum)? For better or worse, we assign much higher weight to opinions of people who showed that they are actually good in the area they are talking about. Videos/ratings are valuable to establish such credibility, that's all.

I'll leave this xkcd comic here - feel free to decide where TT expertise as expressed by forum posts falls on this spectrum:

 

[NextLevel]

These here are some very very disappointing posts.
NL i expected better from you. What do you want to prove? That if his technique is weaker as yours he shouldn't post anymore or actually even shouldn't coach anymore???? Following this logic someone only can coach if he's good enough? Man, i don't think so, 'cause otherwise a few people then shouldn't coach anymore.

I know a few coaches who aren't such good players but certainly are very well respected coaches. One of my friends is one. He gave up practicing cause he doesn't have the time to play himself cause he needs the coaching money to feed his family.

You guys react like someone discredited a king. How could he dare write such a thing and not bow down like all the others??? This is still a free Internet and everyone should feel free enough to share his thoughts, even if they are not always to everybody's likes.

I know you probably won't like to read this, but i felt this here should really be said/wrote...

PEACE!!!

You make all kinds of assumptions in there - have you seen my coach? As in the coach who made me USATT 2000? He currently is rated officially USATT 1700 - because of his physical appearance, most people do not even take him seriously as a TT thinker until they see his students. He is best student is almost 2300 and he has gotten 4 adults from 1000 to over USATT 1800 and 2 over USATT 2000 (including the author of Breaking 2000). He is as insightful about the game as anyone I know. I also know a 1400-1800 amateur who has coached a couple of 2000+ players simply by analyzing video of top players and trying to get his students to do similar things. No serious TT background either. While my coach's highest official rating was 2104, my point is that I know coaches who can develop players who are higher rated than they are.

The first thing I try to tell people when criticizing internet video is to be kind. What I find is that if the person has video of themselves playing or other people have seen them play, they become much kinder automatically. Those without video make all kinds of interesting comments that even if true often show that they have failed to appreciate how hard it is to become a good TT player.

What usually causes posts like yours is that you probably know TT-Rogue personally or at least understand his context better than others (as evidenced by your quote). And you probably think he is a nice guy. I could very well imagine someone reading some of my posts and saying "WTF does this guy think he is?" So I am not purely talking about etiquette in the standard sense. There was a guy on OOAKforum who every time I read his posts, I thought the guy had to be 2500 level as he was always posting video of some CNT player and then trying to get people to copy that technique. He was probably under 1700 to be more realistic. But when I asked his friend about him, his friend said he was a very nice guy and that I should take his comments in the nicest light.

Maybe you don't realize that the guy being fed multiball is USATT 2700 - that is about 2300 TTR I think or something like that. Matt is at least 1800-2000TTR himself.

Coaches disagree all the time, but in my experience, the most unkind posts online are by people who do not want anyone to see how they actually play. No matter how rude a person you are, you will always be kinder once people can do onto you what you do to them. Could you imagine what we would think of P-Nut if we didn't have video of him?

Everyone is fixing their forehand, even Timo Boll. But there are people who start looking at Boll by saying that Boll is chicken wing. I know a coach who respects Timo Boll to the max and would never teach anyone to loop like Timo. What internet comments should reflect is a combination of that tone of respect, while exposing the issues. IF you want to comment on Boll, start with the low stance and the spin, before you say things about chicken wing, or people will just assume you have no clue what you are talking about.

As I always say, even if you think something is wrong with an internet video, always be kind. If TT-Rogue had said something like "Amazing power, but Matt, has anyone ever raised potential issues with his technique?" and gone bla bla bla, do you think we would be having this discussion right now?

Even when coaching a match, some people forget to say, no matter how badly their player is playing, that their player is hustling out there. It goes a long way towards establishing a connection. Then you can actually get into tips, but you need to connect with people before saying things or else you will be saying a lot of stuff that just upsets people.

Posting video of your play is one way of connecting. At least, that way, people know who is talking so that they don't feel offended. If you can't find one nice thing to say about a 2700 player's forehand, and a player whose forehand is his BEST stroke, something has gone wrong somewhere. Seriously wrong. And I am not the one who should be apologizing.

 

[NextLevel]

I agree, Thomas Keinath is a very good example of someone not having a technique like in the schoolbooks and still reached a quite high level, most of us would be happy to reach.

See, this is exactly what i meant. Of course there are armchair generals all over the different TT-Forums. But in fact i wanted to make clear, that this isn't a new PNut. As a matter of fact he seems to know pretty good, what he's talkin' 'bout.
And IMHO if he is a good player or not or a coach or not doesn't make any difference if that, what he thinks he sees is right or wrong. That just doesn't make it more right or more wrong. Please correct me, if this is not accurate.

If he would see something that could be corrected in my technique i would rather be happy instead of being pissed. I would say rather somebody on a forum pointa out my weaknesses for me to work on than an opponent in a match and it's too late for work.

So no reason for everyone jumpin' on him, like a mob whose leader just got discredited.

If I wrote a post like his and everyone jumped on me, I would be apologizing. Just saying. It's very simple - if something is unkind, you don't have to sugar coat it, but you have to make a connection before saying it or not say it at all.

 

[Matt Hetherington]

In terms of the feedback on the stroke it's 0% about content and 100% about tone.

You can say whatever you like about my reaction and whether or not apologies are in order but at the end of the day all you need to do is read his comment.

If his intention was not to be negative about the video then he wouldn't have mentioned my hat at all and that is all that needs to be said really. The moral of the story is, if you have something constructive to say then say it constructively or don't say it.

 

[SquareBall]

In terms of the feedback on the stroke it's 0% about content and 100% about tone.

You can say whatever you like about my reaction and whether or not apologies are in order but at the end of the day all you need to do is read his comment.

If his intention was not to be negative about the video then he wouldn't have mentioned my hat at all and that is all that needs to be said really. The moral of the story is, if you have something constructive to say then say it constructively or don't say it.

No reason to make a big deal when I first read it I didn't realize why he would comment about the hat, I thought it could be some kind of joke. But it is internet text so we can't really know someones emotions. So we should all learn from this and try always make our intentions clear. In my opinion everyone should share his opinion if he likes, if someone considers it inaccurate he can discuss on the subject, not whether the person sharing it meets some criteria or not (google ad hominem).
Whats your opinion on the forehand of this great player ? What do you plan on helping him improve ?
And thanks for sharing this great video

 

[Matt Hetherington]

No reason to make a big deal when I first read it I didn't realize why he would comment about the hat, I thought it could be some kind of joke. But it is internet text so we can't really know someones emotions. So we should all learn from this and try always make our intentions clear. In my opinion everyone should share his opinion if he likes, if someone considers it inaccurate he can discuss on the subject, not whether the person sharing it meets some criteria or not (google ad hominem).
Whats your opinion on the forehand of this great player ? What do you plan on helping him improve ?
And thanks for sharing this great video

I have no problem with anyone sharing their opinions and I think the hat comment detracts away from his main point I thought it wasn't really necessary.

I can't really help this kid improve to be honest. I just feed him multiball from time to time, he doesn't speak much english and is quite reserved so my offers to help him learn have been kind of rebuffed. I'd like to help him but he really keeps to himself. Most of the time I feed him multiball it's because Lily has told him to let me feed him multiball.

In all honesty his forehand has never really been a big focus given the rest of his game. His serve receive is a lot more of an issue for him than anything else and also his tactical game. He has a great skillset though, I have a few more videos of him on my instagram he's quite a 'training machine', very good physical form and work ethic.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Here's the thing Suga, I've read other comments from TT_Rogue and can't remember having a problem with him. He has seemed like a good poster. But in this particular post he starts off and makes it personal. He not only starts off by insulting Matt; he insults everyone who has not said anything negative and then he directly insults Matt. It is not so much that he is talking about the hat as how he says it.

Here:

I dont know what you guys are seeing... i actually see 2 things. Training with a cap on? really?

"I don't know what you guys are seeing..."

That speaks volumes and implies we are all....well....blind.

"Training with a cap on? really?"

To me this sounds like it is a complete and direct insult showing disdain.

Nobody's technique is perfect. So, a critique of the technique could have been totally fine. But TT_Rogue started off with an insult and never did say anything positive.

NextLevel said that 2700 USATT is about 2300 TTR. I am not sure quite how things translate but 2700 is good enough to be in the top 200 in the world. So, all in all, not so bad.

All this being said, I have a feeling TT_Rogue's main intention was not to cause contention and he probably didn't mean to be insulting. Sometimes stuff like that happens when words are written rather than spoken. When communication is from behind a glowing screen rather than in person.

But I still like Matt's hat. [emoji2]


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[NextLevel]

No reason to make a big deal when I first read it I didn't realize why he would comment about the hat, I thought it could be some kind of joke. But it is internet text so we can't really know someones emotions. So we should all learn from this and try always make our intentions clear. In my opinion everyone should share his opinion if he likes, if someone considers it inaccurate he can discuss on the subject, not whether the person sharing it meets some criteria or not (google ad hominem).
Whats your opinion on the forehand of this great player ? What do you plan on helping him improve ?
And thanks for sharing this great video

The problem is the way trolls operate sometimes - this is why trying to make correct connections is important. Ad hominem is important when dealing with logic but unfortunately, life is not logic. In practical terms, it is very important to show the effectiveness of what you are preaching and show why people should listen to you. It is very easy for anyone to sound like they know what they are talking about but they cannot teach it because they really do not understand. Anyone can describe how to play long pips but the only way to address the issues that someone is experiencing is to understand what it is like to experience them and to have seen others experience them and overcome them. So when I talk about getting better against pips being about playing them more, I am imparting experience. Someone who talks about how the ball spins etc. might sound like he knows, and he may actually know, but the words are not enough to take him seriously as many people sound like they know what they are talking about but don't.

The danger is also that players like Matt who are much better players than the average internet player stop posting. Then the flips side is that players who want to share their experience online get driven away because people are saying tasteless things. So we have to be continually on guard against those people who just use the internet to make others feel bad and useless. I mean, why should anyone be commenting about what multiball feeder is wearing?

When Brett Clarke first started posting, I couldn't believe that a former ranked player with good coaching experience was interested in helping amateurs like myself improve our table tennis. But some players (one was called AgentHex), rather than ask him questions and find out how to improve their game, started trying to argue with him or make him sound like he didn't know what he was talking about. If that is how you are always treating a higher rated player, why should he player want to comment and post on the internet? At least, if we know who is writing, it becomes easier to understand where the person is coming from. I mean, everyone can see the good and the bad things about my game and can decide whether I know what I am talking about or not. If everyone was kind, I wouldn't care about seeing other people's game. But if people want to be edgy, and even I like to be edgy or sometimes, you may see me wondering why someone is doing something and mocking them, then they have to expose themselves as well.

Whenever I see someone insulting me, it is usually someone who will never post a video of their own strokes online. That says a lot just by itself. You will hear people talk about looping like Ma Long but when you see them play, they can't make a proper forehand. Then they will be insulting the technique of players like Timo Boll...

Do you see the problem? It's not just language. It's about decency.

 

[Suga D]

Great posts, guys.

I must say, like Schlaftablette wrote before, TT-Rogue really could have said it a bit more polite. There is a german phrase saying the tone defines the music, meaning translated roughly that it depends a whole lot HOW things are said.
But NL is right, although i don't know anyone in here personally, i kinda understand, where TT-Rogue's coming from and i think, it wasn't all meant as negative as it was understood, 'cause here in germany even practice can be pretty strict. I described already how i was treated in an official competition.

So that being said, i think i've made my point clear, that i found the first reactions to his post a bit unfair.

I hope TT-Rogue can explain a bit, if he reads all this. After all i played the advocate by not knowing him personally, but pure conclusions from his previous posts.

 

[Suga D]

Here's the thing Suga, I've read other comments from TT_Rogue and can't remember having a problem with him. He has seemed like a good poster. But in this particular post he starts off and makes it personal. He not only starts off by insulting Matt; he insults everyone who has not said anything negative and then he directly insults Matt. It is not so much that he is talking about the hat as how he says it.

Here:



"I don't know what you guys are seeing..."

That speaks volumes and implies we are all....well....blind.

"Training with a cap on? really?"

To me this sounds like it is a complete and direct insult showing disdain.

Nobody's technique is perfect. So, a critique of the technique could have been totally fine. But TT_Rogue started off with an insult and never did say anything positive.

NextLevel said that 2700 USATT is about 2300 TTR. I am not sure quite how things translate but 2700 is good enough to be in the top 200 in the world. So, all in all, not so bad.

All this being said, I have a feeling TT_Rogue's main intention was not to cause contention and he probably didn't mean to be insulting. Sometimes stuff like that happens when words are written rather than spoken. When communication is from behind a glowing screen rather than in person.

But I still like Matt's hat. [emoji2]


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Carl, i know i'm repeating myself, but that's a great post 1nce again.
Good lookin' out.
I like Matt's hat as well, and gonna wear one myself if my hair gets too long again. The thing is in league matches nobody ever complains, only at official tournaments.

Totally agree, 2300 TTR or 2700 USATT is a really high level which would be around 3.Bundesliga or even 2.Bundesliga Level.
In other words really really good.

Thanks for your reply. Made me smile.

 

[Ilia Minkin]

Although i really like many of your posts, Ilia, i totally disagree and think your vid is a bit misplaced, bro.
You guys shouldn't be so handy on such heavy accusations of being a troll. Just click on TT-Rogue's profile and check the posts he made. It should be clear now, that he certainly doesn't just troll this forum.
A troll would rather write something like e.g. "stupid-video, lol"

Suga D, what you're referring to is called "fat trolling", i.e. something obviously provocative. Many trolls are much trickier than that. What we have here is a sophisticated case, though the gist is the same. Though the response contains technical details, it is outrageously aggressive and inflammatory. Just observe the situation: with a single post the dude was able to initiate a massive %*#$storm and haven't appeared in the thread since then. I think that it is an epic win

 

[Suga D]

Suga D, what you're referring to is called "fat trolling", i.e. something obviously provocative. Many trolls are much trickier than that. What we have here is a sophisticated case, though the gist is the same. Though the response contains technical details, it is outrageously aggressive and inflammatory. Just observe the situation: with a single post the dude was able to initiate a massive %*#$storm and haven't appeared in the thread since then. I think that it is an epic win

Thanks, Ilia and i admit since i don't know TT-Rogue personally you surely could be right, but from seeing his previous posts i have a feeling that this is not the case right here. I think from his posts he was trying to be as helpful as most users on this forum. So building up this kind of 'reputation' over months and then just blowing it with one single comment overnight doesn't make a lot of sense. Trolls move differently.
I hope i don't get burned for my thoughts, but maybe he just had a bad day or that just was really the way he feels expressed in a pretty unpolite way.
I don't know how good he is or his students are, but having the second highest coaching license in germany takes recquires quite a bit of knowledge about the sport, so could be... Maybe he was just tryin' to prevent people from getting over excited.
Here's some information, what it takes to get that B-license... (Unfortunately in german)
http://www.tischtennis.de/fuer_aktive/training_lehre/weitere_lizenzen/b-lizenz/

But anyway, i hope Matt still keeps posting his lovely vids and doesn't feel so bad about this all. I've seen Werner Schlager stop his postings on a german forum, because of some wise-guys getting on his nerves. So it would really be a loss for the community if Matt would start feeling the same way...

@Matt: i don't think it was his intention to prevent you from posting. Please keep 'em coming.

 

[NextLevel]

Thanks, Ilia and i admit since i don't know TT-Rogue personally you surely could be right, but from seeing his previous posts i have a feeling that this is not the case right here. I think from his posts he was trying to be as helpful as most users on this forum. So building up this kind of 'reputation' over months and then just blowing it with one single comment overnight doesn't make a lot of sense. Trolls move differently.
I hope i don't get burned for my thoughts, but maybe he just had a bad day or that just was really the way he feels expressed in a pretty unpolite way.
I don't know how good he is or his students are, but having the second highest coaching license in germany takes recquires quite a bit of knowledge about the sport, so could be... Maybe he was just tryin' to prevent people from getting over excited.
Here's some information, what it takes to get that B-license... (Unfortunately in german)
http://www.tischtennis.de/fuer_aktive/training_lehre/weitere_lizenzen/b-lizenz/

But anyway, i hope Matt still keeps posting his lovely vids and doesn't feel so bad about this all. I've seen Werner Schlager stop his postings on a german forum, because of some wise-guys getting on his nerves. So it would really be a loss for the community if Matt would start feeling the same way...

@Matt: i don't think it was his intention to prevent you from posting. Please keep 'em coming.

So you've seen this kind of crap before and you think the only reason why someone should not be kind and apologize is that he has a high coaching license?

It's never the intention to drive people away, or so we all say - it is to make people feel bad and stupid, which can amount to the same thing. Which is why it is helpful to see the strokes of people who are talking so that they cannot use their anonymity to terrorize people.

 

[Persistence TT]

Thanks, Ilia and i admit since i don't know TT-Rogue personally you surely could be right, but from seeing his previous posts i have a feeling that this is not the case right here. I think from his posts he was trying to be as helpful as most users on this forum. So building up this kind of 'reputation' over months and then just blowing it with one single comment overnight doesn't make a lot of sense. Trolls move differently.
I hope i don't get burned for my thoughts, but maybe he just had a bad day or that just was really the way he feels expressed in a pretty unpolite way.
I don't know how good he is or his students are, but having the second highest coaching license in germany takes recquires quite a bit of knowledge about the sport, so could be... Maybe he was just tryin' to prevent people from getting over excited.
Here's some information, what it takes to get that B-license... (Unfortunately in german)
http://www.tischtennis.de/fuer_aktive/training_lehre/weitere_lizenzen/b-lizenz/

But anyway, i hope Matt still keeps posting his lovely vids and doesn't feel so bad about this all. I've seen Werner Schlager stop his postings on a german forum, because of some wise-guys getting on his nerves. So it would really be a loss for the community if Matt would start feeling the same way...

@Matt: i don't think it was his intention to prevent you from posting. Please keep 'em coming.

Well if Werner Schlager stopped posting, that fact for sure shows something about the internet community. The game is to be played on the table, the net forums/videos are just for extra help and tips. There are so many things that cannot be teached via an internet video /forum post plus many people use the net not for exchange of knowledge but to brag about themselves/put down others and sociopath stuff like that. So I kinda understand Matt's reaction here.

As for the coaching license , it doesnt mean anything to me personally. A good coach is defined by other attributes, not his coaching degrees.

 

[Suga D]

So you've seen this kind of crap before and you think the only reason why someone should not be kind and apologize is that he has a high coaching license?

It's never the intention to drive people away, or so we all say - it is to make people feel bad and stupid, which can amount to the same thing. Which is why it is helpful to see the strokes of people who are talking so that they cannot use their anonymity to terrorize people.

Well, not everybody is such an outgoing person and likes to expose himself all over the Internet.

But terrorize people? Are you really sure what you're saying, there?
Still quite handy with accusations. Have you actually read his other posts? I already wrote that, from what i've read, he tried to be as helpful as MOST others here. THIS was the first unpolite post (which still isn't an excuse for being unpolite).


And TTFrenzy, surely the license degree doesn't say all about a coaches qualities, but it at least says, he took time to study and managed to get the license.
And you don't get that just for free, you're regional federation has to invite you and you have to pay quite an amount.

 

[Der_Echte]

IT should really be mandatory for people to post video of their play before commenting on other people's strokes.

Book 'em Danno.