Daily Table Tennis Chit Chat

[OldschoolPenholder]

no worries man!
listen to that parry hotter.. He knows what he's talking about! (exept when he tries to speak swedish... Not one of he's fortés!)

lololol

 

[Liten]

OSPH , I recently played a player who was doing RPB with long pips , he was making about 30-40 percentage of the shots , but only against backspin ... not sure how but RPB is definitely possible with long pips.

however, I am a purist and I tend to think that using smooth on both sides and graduating to a certain level ( 2000 IMO ) is a must before starting to explore other options . Otherwise, the basics suffer and pips become more a tool to hide your weakness rather than a tool to enhance your strength or control the game in a way so that your strength can be better used.

The hard part of RBP LP is just as you say, the incoming backspin is just about the only spin where you can use the regular topspin stroke to further the spin..
Reading strokes and adapting your position is a hasstle playing LP.. but sooooo much fun!!

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

OSPH , I recently played a player who was doing RPB with long pips , he was making about 30-40 percentage of the shots , but only against backspin ... not sure how but RPB is definitely possible with long pips.

however, I am a purist and I tend to think that using smooth on both sides and graduating to a certain level ( 2000 IMO ) is a must before starting to explore other options . Otherwise, the basics suffer and pips become more a tool to hide your weakness rather than a tool to enhance your strength or control the game in a way so that your strength can be better used.

DAYUM! I was thinking the LP was used like a BH chopping stroke and not RPB! i used to use phantom in a bh chopping motion to compensate for weakness of serve receive or the just in case emergency a wide shot hit to my bh and i can't reach in time so i use the bh chopping motion for slight reach

Yeah, i realized the crutch that the phantom became for me... i really don't think i can handle the weight of 2 inverted rubbers on the nexy amazon cpen that i have for now. with carpal tunnel syndrome concerns, i won't be trying out the rpb any time soon. definitely not until at least i've got my game consistent and/or 2000 level (which may be never LOL).

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WOW! Props and Respect Liten! *mind blown*

 

[Der_Echte]

The long pips is an idea that is in the deep recesses of my pea brain. Ages ago, i tried Phantom on the back to compensate for my then-and-now-still poor serve receive. But it became a "crutch" and i took it off, trying to improve my serve receive instead. If nothing else, I will put on the long pips as weight only and not use it. But this would only be after i put on short pips and see if i can use it to my advantage.

The grip tape has never occurred to me, may try it out.

Thank you Der!

PM me Ur address, I can stick a grip tape in a letter, will fit in easily and cost only a postage stamp too send, could be there in 3 days or so.

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

PM me Ur address, I can stick a grip tape in a letter, will fit in easily and cost only a postage stamp too send, could be there in 3 days or so.

*bat phone ringing*

 

[Der_Echte]

*bat phone ringing*

Already made envelope with address, will post in mail box on way to club tonite for league.

 

[Liten]

WOW! Props and Respect Liten! *mind blown*

Naaa man, Im tooooottally new at the LP-game. I truley suck at it!
Made the switch this last week due too wrist-pains from playing too much TT.

But!

The wightloss the pg7 with these 2 rubbers provides really made the practice doable!
Strange how the omega 4 pro just loved to be glued to the pg7. Tried that blade with Rakza 7, 7s, 9, Boosted H3neo, stiga boost xt, big dipper... nothing helped! Then this rubber was sent on the deathstick from the horrocrux.. presto.. wonderful speed, way more spin than my other setup!

The LP was more of a fun experiment and to keep the weight down. But now im sort of digging it!

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

Excellent news then bro!

Naaa man, Im tooooottally new at the LP-game. I truley suck at it!
Made the switch this last week due too wrist-pains from playing too much TT.

But!

The wightloss the pg7 with these 2 rubbers provides really made the practice doable!
Strange how the omega 4 pro just loved to be glued to the pg7. Tried that blade with Rakza 7, 7s, 9, Boosted H3neo, stiga boost xt, big dipper... nothing helped! Then this rubber was sent on the deathstick from the horrocrux.. presto.. wonderful speed, way more spin than my other setup!

The LP was more of a fun experiment and to keep the weight down. But now im sort of digging it!

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

Already made envelope with address, will post in mail box on way to club tonite for league.

I am not worthy but THANK YOU!

 

[Liten]

Yeah. And if you aint using RBP, try a LP! Great for mixing up your serves! Trying to hide the turning of the blade is real fun! You may have to strap on a helmet, rockets could be incoming!

 

[NextLevel]

I would still recommend long or medium pips. But it is neither here nor there since people are strongly advocating long pips. I just think that the offense with long pips is too limited to disturb good players.

 

[NextLevel]

OK NL, I will accept that, but I can confidently say without formal coaching and lessons this dude grew over time.

Maybe Archo has hope 30 yrs down the road if he remains in his situation. This guy proved that doing 2/3 of the standard stuff "wrong" but changing the impact and keeping it on the table and being stable under pressure and having one FH topsin shot can get you places some players never get with years of lessons.

The problem is that Archosaurus wants to play like CNT. Your guy was probably just trying to get the ball on the table and make it hard for his opponent to do another shot. Given their resources, one was delusional and the other practical. But things can always change.

 

[NextLevel]

By the way, I have played at least two backhand oriented TPB penholders. It was the most frustrating thing I had ever seen or played against. I keep trying to loop into the "weakness" and I am getting punched around the table and only win points when I loop into the forehand which I perry much never found early enough to win a game.

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

I would still recommend long or medium pips. But it is neither here nor there since people are strongly advocating long pips. I just think that the offense with long pips is too limited to disturb good players.

Will try short pips (or is what i think as short really medium?) to smash, punch and block to change up the pace from my inverted loop, smash, punch and block.

The LP i will try predominately as a weighted back but may try some strokes with it. Not even sure if RPB will be doable for me with smooth or LP.

 

[NextLevel]

Will try short pips (or is what i think as short really medium?) to smash, punch and block to change up the pace from my inverted loop, smash, punch and block.

The LP i will try predominately as a weighted back but may try some strokes with it. Not even sure if RPB will be doable for me with smooth or LP.

I would recommend you do inverted on one side and short pips on the other and continue to play around with what you want to be on the pips side. You will appreciate having the inverted to serve with. Serving with inverted is always a different level from pips, all other things being equal.

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

I would recommend you do inverted on one side and short pips on the other and continue to play around with what you want to be on the pips side. You will appreciate having the inverted to serve with. Serving with inverted is always a different level from pips, all other things being equal.

The main reason i gave up on pips ages ago was I couldn't 'get' the bh smash/stroke consistent. Another reason though I loved inverted serves ... at the time playing my peers, they 'ate' my sidetop or popped it up and i would go to town smashing.

Sir, I'm not sure I understand what you meant by:

"and continue to play around with what you want to be on the pips side"

Thank you on reiterating the pips advice, my plan is to hook up Monday night with 42andbackpains so i can borrow an old short pips from him to try out for Tuesday night. As my club is a city recreation center, they close at 5pm due to Columbus Day on Monday.

 

[NextLevel]

The main reason i gave up on pips ages ago was I couldn't 'get' the bh smash/stroke consistent. Another reason though I loved inverted serves ... at the time playing my peers, they 'ate' my sidetop or popped it up and i would go to town smashing.

Sir, I'm not sure I understand what you meant by:

"and continue to play around with what you want to be on the pips side"

Thank you on reiterating the pips advice, my plan is to hook up Monday night with 42andbackpains so i can borrow an old short pips from him to try out for Tuesday night. As my club is a city recreation center, they close at 5pm due to Columbus Day on Monday.

I mean that you have two sides on your current blade. Keep one side as inverted and one side as pips but change the pips every month or so. That will reduce the weight and let you have variation. You can them decide whether you want to make the short pips you main side and put LP on the other side or whether you want to keep inverted. But I am just saying how I would do it or recommend you do it. Other approaches are quite possible.

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

Ah ok, thank you for the clarification!

May or may not be ordering LP anytime soon, both 42&bp and i put in an order 2 wks ago. So i will be using the short pips until a few of our mutual friends get an order together to order from tt11.com at which time i will order the long pips.

 

[NextLevel]

Ah ok, thank you for the clarification!

May or may not be ordering LP anytime soon, both 42&bp and i put in an order 2 wks ago. So i will be using the short pips until a few of our mutual friends get an order together to order from tt11.com at which time i will order the long pips.

Don't order those things from another countrtime. You can get decent pips from colestt.com and zeropong.com. Expensive tensor at discount rates of course should be imported. All of this goes out the window if zero pong and coles TT are too expensive...

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

Ah ok, will keep colestt and zeropong in mind when I'm ready to order, probably 2 wks or so.