Tibhar Evolution EL-S and FX-S

So....does this mean you are going to put MX-P on both sides? Hahaha.

Even with MX-P his handle heavy beast mod blade will still be very handle heavy.

BTW: right now I'm debating if my next rubbers will be Tenergy or EL-S.


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Would be Great to get a really really good comparison between 05 and EL-S. So i can decide myself what to go for. I'm debating if i should go back to MP-P. I play with 05 today, should continue with 05 or should i try the new El-s?? hmm
 
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My current setup comes in at like 200 grams if my scale doesn't lie to me. The blade weighs a "measly" 86g, I unfortunately didnt check the H3 before cutting or after (a. forgot and b. cba pulling off the rubber again), the EL-S came in at 113g packaged (which is average to mid-heavy, I've seen them range from 109-114, one sheet even at 115). I can only agree with the others, if weight plays an important role, you should stay away from playing the Evolution Series on both sides (or together with some other heavy rubber).

As for 05 vs EL-S, personally I'd say just go for it. To give you a tl;dr pro and con list, I prefer the EL-S for the opening loop on the forehand, and it didn't matter to me on my backhand. I preferred the EL-S in short-short over ANY T05, because honestly I was just utter shit at short-short when i had my Tenergies on the blade and I couldn't control a single ball, they either went long or too high. If you have a really good short-short game with T05, you should probably stick to it, as that is the rubber's biggest weakness imo.
Some people have reported after playing with the rubber for several weeks/months to notice a weird catapult effect kick in during later gears, meaning they can't get a single thing on the table when playing with full force as opposed to a T05, where stuff just "lands" because of the arc.

If you're coming from T05, just give it a try. In terms of pricing you're making plus and while the feeling is slightly different between the two rubbers, I would still consider the EL-S the closest thing to an alternative to the T05 (or MX-P, based on preference. MX-P is an EL-S in hardmode, quite literally.)
 

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I have just switched from 05fx to FX-S on my forehand. I have been using 05fx for about 2 years.
FX-S has a slightly lower throw.
FX-S is spinnier
FX-S feels easier to smash with
Feels better on serve
I am a little concerned I might find the net too much because of lower throw but hopefully I can adjust to this.
My blade has high throw so I think it will be fine.
It feels good in practice, but matchplay is always the proper test
 
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I have just switched from 05fx to FX-S on my forehand. I have been using 05fx for about 2 years.
FX-S has a slightly lower throw.
FX-S is spinnier
FX-S feels easier to smash with
Feels better on serve
I am a little concerned I might find the net too much because of lower throw but hopefully I can adjust to this.
My blade has high throw so I think it will be fine.
It feels good in practice, but matchplay is always the proper test

Your stroke will adjust over a few sessions to the new throw angle. How long it will take depends. Each person is different. Cool that you feel it has more spin than 05fx. How is the speed comparison?


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I think it feels quicker, although it is less springy and catapulty. So it feels like i can hit the ball harder, more linear, somehow. The blade is decently quick off and quite hard and stiff so it feels easier to drive with.

I'm not too sure about it being really sensitive to spin.

IMO - surely if something is grippy and spinny it will always be more sensitive to spin incoming anyway.
 
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Reverted backhand to EL-P 2.0 (thanks to tabletennis11 special price): feels so much better now. The weight of the racket is acceptable again, switching between FH and BH is as fast as before. Gonna try EL-S on BH in a few months after.
 

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I had a TSPW. I thought it was a little head heavy. I sanded off approx. 2 mm on top half of blade. Mainly so rubbers from a JRE would fit. it seems to have made the blade a little lighter and more balanced IMO.
Needs a steady hand though. and a good template from a smaller blade.
 
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But I still do :D

Andy, you think it would go great with -S series?

Yes!

For me, FX-S and EL-S just lack low-end liveliness. The arc and spin is fine for my needs. I tried them on a Yasaka Goiabao recently and the additional bounce and hardness really helped. The Hypertouch has some of that bounciness too, so I bet it would be lovely. But YMMV, of course.
 
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What do you mean by that?

Just that they seem to lack initial catapult, or bounciness. A feature, not a bug - but on slower, softer blades they annoy me in comparison with my usual rubbers. I would adjust given time of course, but I tried them on bouncier blades and prefer them there.
 

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So very briefly after a couple of practices;

loop 05fx>EL-S (easier with 05fx, not sure if better)
re-loop EL-S>05fx
block EL-S>05fx
serves roughly equal i think
short game EL-S>05fx (massive difference)
serve return EL-S>05fx (big improvement)
drive/smash EL-S>05fx (big difference)

this is all on fh

the only thing i find 05fx is easier for is when out of position the throw and catapult get you out of jail sometimes
in everything else EL-S is much better so far
 
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So very briefly after a couple of practices;

loop 05fx>EL-S (easier with 05fx, not sure if better)
re-loop EL-S>05fx
block EL-S>05fx
serves roughly equal i think
short game EL-S>05fx (massive difference)
serve return EL-S>05fx (big improvement)
drive/smash EL-S>05fx (big difference)

this is all on fh

the only thing i find 05fx is easier for is when out of position the throw and catapult get you out of jail sometimes
in everything else EL-S is much better so far

That get out of jail was enough for me to not like EL-S
 

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yes i know waht you mean but the rest is better and i am better when i play close to the table. my feet dont move much so better to stay close and block.
im waiting for my YSE but looking forward to it after reading your review
 
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I'm back on 05fx on fh, I need the 'get out of jail free' spring sponge too much.
Trying on Yasaka Sweden Extra at the moment.

That should be their ad slogan. "Tenergy: the first rubber with the built-in 'get out of the jail' effect" :D
 
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