I’m in wrong path.. need Allround blade / Control blade & rubber

[lVegita]

So, Zeen, please avoid conflicts like that in the future. And when Lightzy is unbanned, please avoid commenting on his posts. Thank you.

I don’t think this is the best way to deal with it.


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[RidTheKid]

Haha yes in a perfect world! Reality is you can't get along with everyone, but you should respect other people and their opinions. If one feels the urge to direct personal attacks step away from the computer/phone and do something else until cooled off. Or you could bite back in a more diplomatic manner

I don’t think this is the best way to deal with it.


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[lVegita]

Can we update the thread’s title?

I’m in wrong path.. need Allround manners / Control temper & behavior

 

[Zeen]

Exactly right. And not just a repeat offender. As I said, when the TTD Moderation Team were discussing the complaints we got, part of the discussion was that since he has been banned before, he should remember that part of his terms for being unbanned were not to do stuff like this.

And I will repeat, we did not receive complaints about Zeen's content. The complaints were about the language and tone related to Lightzy's content and questions about whether someone who would call someone Ass Smear and make the kind of direct, personal attacks that Lightzy made actually belongs on the forum.

But I do still hope that Dan and Lightzy can sort this all out.

I do not think what Zeen did was beyond blame. I think it was a bit aggressive. But none of it is direct personal attacks. Saying someone shows some of the classic signs of narcissistic personality disorder is not quite the same as saying: You are a narcissist. But it is close.

So, Zeen, please avoid conflicts like that in the future. And when Lightzy is unbanned, please avoid commenting on his posts. Thank you.

I know what I wrote was borderline. However, I find it hard to ignore when someone constantly elevates their own opinion over everybody else. But seeing how dedicated you moderators are to the quality of this forum, I think I can be assured to just stick to being objective and friendly.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

I know what I wrote was borderline. However, I find it hard to ignore when someone constantly elevates their own opinion over everybody else. But seeing how dedicated you moderators are to the quality of this forum, I think I can be assured to just stick to being objective and friendly.

Thank you.


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[NextLevel]

I know what I wrote was borderline. However, I find it hard to ignore when someone constantly elevates their own opinion over everybody else. But seeing how dedicated you moderators are to the quality of this forum, I think I can be assured to just stick to being objective and friendly.

Seriously, thanks for coming to this forum. Your insight perfectly aligns with mine. Usually, when someone is as aggressive as Lightzy is, you want to know something about their TT history that makes them believe they know so much. And you get absolutely nothing from Lightzy. And the small insights you get all point to playing at a level that is too low to be going around the forum insulting and bullying people based on objective superiority (not that anyone or a good player would ever do that given the complexity of the sport). The excuse that he wants to remain private is not good enough. He needs to stop engaging so rudely if he is not willing to explain why he should feel so strongly in terms that will let us respect his experience.

 

[RidTheKid]

Agree, it's really not too much to ask to back up ones words. Confession: I'm also one of those who swing perhaps confident words around without ever showing videos of play. It's coming, I have played extremely sparingly the past year. First torn meniscus, then shoulder pain that doesn't seem to go away. Hard to commit to power looping from fh atm and that hinders the entire playing rhythm knowing pain will come at every full stroke from fh side, makes the fh motion a bit unnatural from what I can sense. I guess that keeps pain stuck in a loop (no pun intended).

Seriously, thanks for coming to this forum. Your insight perfectly aligns with mine. Usually, when someone is as aggressive as Lightzy is, you want to know something about their TT history that makes them believe they know so much. And you get absolutely nothing from Lightzy. And the small insights you get all point to playing at a level that is too low to be going around the forum insulting and bullying people based on objective superiority (not that anyone or a good player would ever do that given the complexity of the sport). The excuse that he wants to remain private is not good enough. He needs to stop engaging so rudely if he is not willing to explain why he should feel so strongly in terms that will let us respect his experience.

 

[Suga D]

I already had written a post from my phone that took me about 15 minutes of writing that I didn't post yet and then i received a phone call and somehow almost forgot about my post until an hour later it came back to my mind but meanwhile the page reloaded and every syllable was gone again.
Aaaaargh. Maybe someone can hook me up with one of those nasty spyphones like Carl's got.
[Emoji6]
The thing about trolling people is there are really different kinds.

You have the fun making guy who just repeatedly posts some ridiculous stuff, but his posts actually don't insult anyone like for instance announcing some new type of equipment will be going to hit the markets when the thread was actually about looking for technical advice. What makes it even more funny is that some posts are hoaxes some not. So you actually never know and only will find out if you research for yourself. But those posts actually don't hurt anyone, except maybe a slight pain in the brain.


And then there are guys that post some real inflammatory things who seem to be totally overconfident for no good reason (at least no one has seen any video or anything while the real good players i met are humbling down to earth people instead). These guys just seem to get a kick out of how people get riled up by their posts. Some just enjoy to start arguments and insulting people and attacking each and everyone that doesn't see things how they do and get very personal while doing this.

However, I'm not sure if this really applies here. Somehow I get the feeling that some people are just unable to see themselves and what kind of impression others get of them. Many times this comes in combination with the inability of picturing themselves how it might feel walking in other people's shoes and often is a sign of total immaturity. In the real world this behaviour mostly appears by people who are kids of some company's boss. And in the real world even a Boss' son would catch a spontaneous nosebleed if he would say the things he writes on the web to someone personally, at least over here.


Anyhow, gladly I'm not the one who has to decide on this, but I think a permanent ban isn't really necessary from my point of view.
I would much more enjoy if people would know how to behave.

To not cause too much unnecessary work for mods I think we actually need more people that are willing and able to not accept any BS and call people out on that. Us forum members should actually keep members showing bad behaviour in check and keep the forum free from it.

Of course when things escalate too bad then moderation and regulation is important, but sometimes things also cool off as quickly as they got heated up.

But then again, if things happen repeatedly over and over I also understand if the moderation staff gets a bit tired of this.

Man....this post is nearly as long as the one I started typing and that disappeared again.
It probably would have been enough to just post this vid instead.
[Emoji2]

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Anyhow, gladly I'm not the one who has to decide on this, but I think a permanent ban isn't really necessary from my point of view.
I would much more enjoy if people would know how to behave.

Thanks Suga D.

I figure I may as well update you guys.

It turns out Dan was way too busy to do the work with Lightzy. So what we did is, I had an email dialogue with Lightzy and Dan and Giang were cc'd but they were busy. After they have read through everything, Dan, Giang and I will have a teleconference and figure out how things should be handled. Dan is who will make the overall decision. But how Lightzy responded to the whole dialogue will probably inform Dan of how to move forward. And I am sure input from Giang and me will also impacte how Dan decides to proceed.

In the end, the goal is to make the forum a safe place where people can come, share ideas about a sport we all love and have some fun.

Say, is that Jan Ove Waldner over there? Gotta go!

 

[adni361]

Wow, it's like a drama
Became too far, but come on guys.. let's be good, respect all each other. with a good talk

if you have your opinion like lighzy, give the reason why you said it like that. I mean, if it's horrible blade, maybe it just don't work with lighzy, but hey.. a lot of people still like it and give a positive opinion about this blade Yasaka Sweden extra, if you're not, then giving the reason why it's don't work with you. don't just give empty opinion. so other people will know. but lighzy just pointed out without any explanation why he said horrible blade.. the beginner just need explanation.

What i'm saying is, just give the beginner explanation. Before you all have your level now, yo're just same beginner that know nothing.


Every expert was once a beginner!

Keep that in mind



So if yo're boored with the beginner asking about blade and rubber. leave it. other people who love and caring will answer that. there are a lot of people in here is very kind and nice. and thanks if yo're being polite.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Adni, here are some ideas for things that would work for you:

Budget setup:

1) Yinhe Galaxy 896 blade with XP2008 rubbers. Approximately $35.00 for the full setup.

This is quite good and much better than the price tag seems to imply.

Stuff that is a bit more expensive but not very expensive and quite good for any newer player. These blades and rubbers are not listed in any particular order.

Blades:

1) Donic Appelgren Allplay
2) Stiga Allround Classic
3) Stiga Allround Evolution
4) Butterfly Grubba
5) Butterfly Primorac Off-
6) Yasaka Sweden Classic
7) Yasaka Sweden Extra

Rubbers:

1) Butterfly Sriver
2) Yasaka Mark V
3) Xiom Vega Intro
4) Xiom Vega Europe
5) Tibhar Aurus Sound
6) Nexy Karis M

There are many more blades and rubbers that could be added to these lists. But this should be enough.

If you got the budget setup it would be almost as good as any of the more expensive stuff. 97% as good. Maybe 94% as good. The blade would not be quite as good crafsmanship. But functionally 99% as good. The rubbers play well. But will wear out a little faster.

And if you chose any blade from the blade list and matched it with any rubber from the rubber list any of those combinations would be excellent.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

If you wanted me to choose one setup for you out of all of those and you wanted it to be something other than the Budget Buster otherwise known as the Der_Echte special, it would be this:

Blade: Donic Appelgren Allplay
Rubbers: Xiom Vega Intro

 

[P1ngP0ng3r]

And 72 posts later, there you have it OP. Your quest is over
Although slightly above 75USD, this is a very decent setup with enough speed, spin and tons of control. Very nice setup to develop your game.

One last comment: regardless wich setup you will choose, stick with it. At least for a 6-12 months. Don't start changing your setup every 1-2 months. Stick with the setup and learn it's cons and pros for you personally. Improve your technique to coop with the cons and to get the most out of the pros. And above all: HAVE FUN

 

[jawien]

[...]
Blades:
1) Donic Appelgren Allplay
2) Stiga Allround Classic
3) Stiga Allround Evolution
4) Butterfly Grubba
5) Butterfly Primorac Off-
6) Yasaka Sweden Classic
7) Yasaka Sweden Extra

Rubbers:

1) Butterfly Sriver
2) Yasaka Mark V
3) Xiom Vega Intro
4) Xiom Vega Europe
5) Tibhar Aurus Sound
6) Nexy Karis M

If you wanted me to choose [...] otherwise known as the Der_Echte special, it would be this:
Blade: Donic Appelgren Allplay
Rubbers: Xiom Vega Intro

And 72 posts later, there you have it OP. Your quest is over
Although slightly above 75USD, this is a very decent setup with enough speed, spin and tons of control. Very nice setup to develop your game.
One last comment: regardless wich setup you will choose, stick with it. At least for a 6-12 months. Don't start changing your setup every 1-2 months. Stick with the setup and learn it's cons and pros for you personally. Improve your technique to coop with the cons and to get the most out of the pros. And above all: HAVE FUN

Yeah, essentially those 74 posts boils down to the 3 above ... I think it's a new record on the forum, how far can a 3 posts topic be elaborated by our experts ...

I'll save @Carl's list for myself and P1ngP0ng3r suggestion about 6-12 months period is really something to consider.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

And 72 posts later, there you have it OP. Your quest is over
Although slightly above 75USD, this is a very decent setup with enough speed, spin and tons of control. Very nice setup to develop your game.

One last comment: regardless wich setup you will choose, stick with it. At least for a 6-12 months. Don't start changing your setup every 1-2 months. Stick with the setup and learn it's cons and pros for you personally. Improve your technique to coop with the cons and to get the most out of the pros. And above all: HAVE FUN

Yeah, essentially those 74 posts boils down to the 3 above ... I think it's a new record on the forum, how far can a 3 posts topic be elaborated by our experts ...

I'll save @Carl's list for myself and P1ngP0ng3r suggestion about 6-12 months period is really something to consider.

The 6-12 month idea is really excellent. It usually takes about 1 month to get fully used to a setup. And another 3-4 months to start really grooving your technique with the setup so that your technique is developing around things that are specific to the setup. Like, different handle/neck shape/sizes allow you to do different things, to loop or punch block with subtly different ways of holding.

A lot of times people are changing from one setup to the next before they can really grow with the setup they have and that actually can delay the development of certain aspects of technique. As you get to have better technique though, the melding of player/technique/equipment can happen much quicker. But not for everyone.

So, 6-12 months is an excellent rule. I actually usually tell people 3-4 months. The reason is, if after 4 months, the player does not feel the equipment is part of their hand, then, maybe something else will be more appropriate. If something is in the range of acceptable for your needs, after 3-4 months, your racket will feel like it is part of you. If it does not, like, if every time you try a friend's setup you think you wish yours felt like theirs, then, 3-4 months may be enough for you to know that something else may be better for you. But for most people 6-12 months is really the right time frame to keep using something before thinking about changing.

Now what does that say about all of us Equipment Junkies?

 

[NextLevel]

The 6-12 month idea is really excellent. It usually takes about 1 month to get fully used to a setup. And another 3-4 months to start really grooving your technique with the setup so that your technique is developing around things that are specific to the setup. Like, different handle/neck shape/sizes allow you to do different things, to loop or punch block with subtly different ways of holding.

A lot of times people are changing from one setup to the next before they can really grow with the setup they have and that actually can delay the development of certain aspects of technique. As you get to have better technique though, the melding of player/technique/equipment can happen much quicker. But not for everyone.

So, 6-12 months is an excellent rule. I actually usually tell people 3-4 months. The reason is, if after 4 months, the player does not feel the equipment is part of their hand, then, maybe something else will be more appropriate. If something is in the range of acceptable for your needs, after 3-4 months, your racket will feel like it is part of you. If it does not, like, if every time you try a friend's setup you think you wish yours felt like theirs, then, 3-4 months may be enough for you to know that something else may be better for you. But for most people 6-12 months is really the right time frame to keep using something before thinking about changing.

Now what does that say about all of us Equipment Junkies?

That buying equipment is cheaper than buying cars.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

That buying equipment is cheaper than buying cars.

Can you imagine someone buying as many cars as Rokphish has blades?

 

[mart1nandersson]

Blades is an investment. Blades are forever.

 

[Der_Echte]

Nah, DIAMONDS are forever...

 

[P1ngP0ng3r]

Blades is an investment. Blades are forever.

Although true, still putting 10-12 blades for sale soon.

....so I can reinvest in new blades