Experience with some other Loki rubbers - Arthur China, GTX Pro (inc)

[longle]

I can sure relate to this. I also currently have H3 on the BH of two of my blades.
Life is hard 🤣

I've tried everything to deny that H3 is the best.. now I have to admit it

 

[Attitude]

I've tried everything to deny that H3 is the best.. now I have to admit it

I will deny that at least H3 OS is the best
Every BS alternative like R9, B2 and Xuperman plays better imo. And BS H3 versions are too expensive for me. Even powerplay x is cheaper.
I had decent results with it on bh but i still play way better with something like moon blue and stiga mantra pro. Will revisit rakza z now and then make my decision for the next season. I still need to train a lot for the upcoming season with the settled setup so have to get to it soon^^

 

[_ak]

I can sure relate to this. I also currently have H3 on the BH of two of my blades.
Life is hard 🤣

Did you mean heavy? 🤣

 

[longle]

I will deny that at least H3 OS is the best
Every BS alternative like R9, B2 and Xuperman plays better imo. And BS H3 versions are too expensive for me. Even powerplay x is cheaper.
I had decent results with it on bh but i still play way better with something like moon blue and stiga mantra pro. Will revisit rakza z now and then make my decision for the next season. I still need to train a lot for the upcoming season with the settled setup so have to get to it soon^^

I can only compare H3 Pro Neo BS with other top rubbers from other brands, maybe in training I don't feel any advantages, but in real matches I noticed that that H3 gave me 5-10% stability in crucial points, proved with my recent winnings.

But H3 OS on BH is actually monstrous, if you can find the suitable one, I found out that the H3 Commercial H38 feels exactly the same hardness as Moon 12 Blue H-, plus a stickier topsheet, so I fell in love with it right away

 

[netdriver]

I can only compare H3 Pro Neo BS with other top rubbers from other brands, maybe in training I don't feel any advantages, but in real matches I noticed that that H3 gave me 5-10% stability in crucial points, proved with my recent winnings.

But H3 OS on BH is actually monstrous, if you can find the suitable one, I found out that the H3 Commercial H38 feels exactly the same hardness as Moon 12 Blue H-, plus a stickier topsheet, so I fell in love with it right away

have u used the skyline provincials before?

 

[longle]

have u used the skyline provincials before?

yes, I used TG3 pro #21 blue sponge, very enjoyable but they bubbled after 2 months

 

[mattlamperouge]

Loki Telson 100 47.5 review/first impressions:

 

[TensorBackhand]

Loki Telson 100 47.5 review/first impressions:

Seems a lot harder than 47.5

 

[hclnnkhg]

Seems a lot harder than 47.5

Inline with what I have seen on Chinese forum; Telson 100 feels harder than other 47.5d rubbers. Some people attributes it to the low dwell time. Although it depends on the reviewer; those with more professional background describe it as easy to use...
The common theme from various reviews seems to be good control, good spin with decent speed.

 

[TensorBackhand]

Inline with what I have seen on Chinese forum; Telson 100 feels harder than other 47.5d rubbers. Some people attributes it to the low dwell time. Although it depends on the reviewer; those with more professional background describe it as easy to use...
The common theme from various reviews seems to be good control, good spin with decent speed.

Decent speed meaning less than Tenergy?

 

[Wakkibatty]

Loki Telson 100 47.5 review/first impressions:

I agree with the reviewer in that video -- there really is almost is a new 'type' of hardness to the sponge... it's hard to explain, but it is definitely a hard sponge, around 47.5 or harder, but it only feels harder than that to me personally when it's attached to a carbon blade. On an all-wood blade, the rubber feels far less hard.

As for speed, personally I would gauge it as being a split hair slower than a T05, but then again I don't use Tenergy very much - just as a test rubber really... which means when I do use it, it's always attached to a brand new blade model in order to gauge its performance with faster rubbers, and it's only ever attached to a blade for a few weeks at a time.

My experience of using T05 rubber is therefore pretty atypical, compared to somebody who uses it for months at a time always on the same blade.

The T100 is just one of those rubbers you really need to try for yourself - it has a few key similarities to other rubbers, without being hugely reminiscent of any of them.

In terms of value for money however, it really is a killer.... a really bloody good rubber for the price.

 

[mattlamperouge]

I agree with the reviewer in that video -- there really is almost is a new 'type' of hardness to the sponge... it's hard to explain, but it is definitely a hard sponge, around 47.5 or harder, but it only feels harder than that to me personally when it's attached to a carbon blade. On an all-wood blade, the rubber feels far less hard.

As for speed, personally I would gauge it as being a split hair slower than a T05, but then again I don't use Tenergy very much - just as a test rubber really... which means when I do use it, it's always attached to a brand new blade model in order to gauge its performance with faster rubbers, and it's only ever attached to a blade for a few weeks at a time.

My experience of using T05 rubber is therefore pretty atypical, compared to somebody who uses it for months at a time always on the same blade.

The T100 is just one of those rubbers you really need to try for yourself - it has a few key similarities to other rubbers, without being hugely reminiscent of any of them.

In term's of value for money however, it really is a killer.... a really bloody good rubber for the price.

It seems like a good value/performance then, we need more testers & also see QC & durability. It would be cool if someone can compare 47.5 with 45 to see the differences in feeling/performance and then compare both to other rubber on similar categories (hardness, sponge style, topsheet style)

The reviewers on that video somehow compare the looks with Mxp, maybe Mxp-50 is closer to the felling on Telson 47.5?

 

[TensorBackhand]

It seems like a good value/performance then, we need more testers & also see QC & durability. It would be cool if someone can compare 47.5 with 45 to see the differences in feeling/performance and then compare both to other rubber on similar categories (hardness, sponge style, topsheet style)

The reviewers on that video somehow compare the looks with Mxp, maybe Mxp-50 is closer to the felling on Telson 47.5?

I believe they said it is similar to DNA Platinum XH

 

[Federal_Agent]

Does anyone know to explan the differences between the provincial versions of DHS Skyline 2 BS compared to DHS Skyline 3 BS?

 

[andzejgolot]

Pimple structure?

I saw Telson in Black too

 

[andzejgolot]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EIoDkTz

 

[igorponger]

VEXED ISSUE, INDEED.

LOKI Telson 47.5 is most likely indicated by Shore О scale (generally known as ESN scale). It approximately corresponds to 38° by Shore A.
Here are hardness values on other popular sandwich rubbers, as a convenient reference for comparison:
• T05 -- 36° Shore A,
• Dignics05 -- 42° Shore A.

The lack of uniformity of the hardness standards as currently used by different rubber brands is getting a vexed issue, still unsettled.

PS: We have now addressed to EQC with a proposal to enforce Shore-A scale as the only permissible hardness indication on every sandwich rubber to be sold on market.
__________________
Be happy.

 

[Gekko]

Does anyone know to explan the differences between the provincial versions of DHS Skyline 2 BS compared to DHS Skyline 3 BS?

Pimple structure and spacing is different.
Skyline 2 is short, wide, and close together leading to a "thicker" feel.
Skyline 3 is longer, thinner and further apart, leading to more deformation and a "softer" feel

 

[turbozed]

Had my first bad experience with Loki yesterday.

I've gotten great performance and life out of every other Loki rubber I've tried. Rxton 3 Blue and LAC were some of my best performers and I got around 50 hrs of play from them each and they're still in good enough shape to use.

I recently put two layers of seamoon on a new Rxton 3 Pink. After using it for a couple of hours I noticed that the top sheet separated from the sponge. Maybe 33% of the rubber had come off.

This is pretty surprising since I put 2 layers on Rxton 3 Blue and no problem at all. I bought this rubber over a year ago and it was likely an early batch.

Blue and pink are considered the same rubber except for color. So my guess is that somwhere down the line Loki started using some bad glue and it affected a good amount of their product. This might be the source of the infamous LAC bubbling issue. And it looks like some batches of Rxton 3 Pink were affected.

Haven't heard of any problems with their newer rubbers like the Rxton Pro series or the Telson, so hopefully the bad batches have stopped.

Wish there was a way of knowing which rubbers were affected without actually using it.

 

[lodro]

Had my first bad experience with Loki yesterday.

I've gotten great performance and life out of every other Loki rubber I've tried. Rxton 3 Blue and LAC were some of my best performers and I got around 50 hrs of play from them each and they're still in good enough shape to use.

I recently put two layers of seamoon on a new Rxton 3 Pink. After using it for a couple of hours I noticed that the top sheet separated from the sponge. Maybe 33% of the rubber had come off.

This is pretty surprising since I put 2 layers on Rxton 3 Blue and no problem at all. I bought this rubber over a year ago and it was likely an early batch.

Blue and pink are considered the same rubber except for color. So my guess is that somwhere down the line Loki started using some bad glue and it affected a good amount of their product. This might be the source of the infamous LAC bubbling issue. And it looks like some batches of Rxton 3 Pink were affected.

Haven't heard of any problems with their newer rubbers like the Rxton Pro series or the Telson, so hopefully the bad batches have stopped.

Wish there was a way of knowing which rubbers were affected without actually using it.

i do have a pinky which i hate with a passion.I have already boosted it several times in hope to get any desirable effects from it but no luck. The "friggen thing" still looks like new. It being colored, i bought it for the BH but tried it lastly as a forehand rubber but Rxton 3pro is much better and cost half the money.