French NTTC-2025 (Championnat de France de tennis de table)

[NetProphet]

For now Simon remains the most experienced guy, some will argue he's not been fair play at 8-7 3rd game, but if you want your seat to LA, you have to show the elders you deserve it, Flavien does not.

Was absolutely cheating as I see it.
Watching it back in slow motion he had already missed the BH attack shot of Coton before the other ball bounced.

Can you tell me what th commentators a d players were saying when Coton gave the ball back for Gauzy to serve again?
Was it cotton being sporting or did Gauzy ask for it? My French is awful! 😬

 

[PoppaChubby]

Was absolutely cheating as I see it.
Watching it back in slow motion he had already missed the BH attack shot of Coton before the other ball bounced.

Can you tell me what th commentators a d players were saying when Coton gave the ball back for Gauzy to serve again?
Was it cotton being sporting or did Gauzy ask for it? My French is awful! 😬

There's been some words indeed, Flavien said "the umpire decides, if it's a point made it's a point made", see the kind of things that can escalate. Even if Gauzy's wrong, Flavien let his nerves talk too much.

Jules Rolland has been way smarter, when it was tense he recomposed himself.

 

[PoppaChubby]

You write as if the LA Olympics are tomorrow .

I write it as if I know better than you the situation, Thibault never plays the double, he's not good at that. And the only way to get a seat in the french team as a 3rd player is to be able to fit either with Alexis or Felix.

But you also have to be a reliable single player. Julles Rolland has shown better abilities on the WTT circus. On a good day he can push LJK to a decider. As Simon does.

Now Poret's results are good in singles since a year, but if he keeps on not playing the doubles, it will be a no-no for the french staff.
WTTTC: no double
Olympics team: double
ETTTC: double
The ETTTC being every 2 year, it's mandatory to have a guy double-ready.

2025 ETTTC
2026 WTTTC
2027 ETTTC
2028 Olympics

For the next 4 big competitions, 3 are with a double in the team event. France is not China, it takes way more time to find and develop the best 3rd player.

 

[NextLevel]

I write it as if I know better than you the situation, Thibault never plays the double, he's not good at that. And the only way to get a seat in the french team as a 3rd player is to be able to fit either with Alexis or Felix.

But you also have to be a reliable single player. Julles Rolland has shown better abilities on the WTT circus. On a good day he can push LJK to a decider. As Simon does.

Now Poret's results are good in singles since a year, but if he keeps on not playing the doubles, it will be a no-no for the french staff.
WTTTC: no double
Olympics team: double
ETTTC: double
The ETTTC being every 2 year, it's mandatory to have a guy double-ready.

2025 ETTTC
2026 WTTTC
2027 ETTTC
2028 Olympics

For the next 4 big competitions, 3 are with a double in the team event. France is not China, it takes way more time to find and develop the best 3rd player.

You may very well be right, time will tell.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Nina is pretty impressive
she was in Taiwan for a month in December.
was able to compete with some of our similar age top players

 

[NextLevel]

Well finals are set. Lebrun Lebrun and Chasselin Salpin.

 

[NextLevel]

By the way, a point in wanted to make yesterday but didn't. No one wants to throw away the doubles but people should always remember that while it is extremely valuable because it is the first match, it counts for only one match. If a player is strong at singles but weak at doubles (which is rare), the question is whether his singles strength outweighs the doubles issues. This is why Japan was okay fielding two lefties who never seriously played doubles together in the 2021 Tokyo Olympics.

 

[zeio]

Not a good sign that Felix started "stalling" between points from G2... He needs to make it 3-1 to have a chance. Missed the high lob at 3:6 of G4...

Not meant to be. Alexis converted on his 3rd game point whereas Felix failed on his 3 game points, after leading as much as 7:3.

From 5:3 to 8:11 in G5... G7 is a very distant possibility at this point.

Alexis' turn to falter after 96, 99, 109, 1012...

G7 Alexis 20, 24, 44, 48, 58, 59, 69, 610, 710, 711

Alexis: What happened to me?

 

[NextLevel]

He did it!

 

[PoppaChubby]

Nina is pretty impressive
she was in Taiwan for a month in December.
was able to compete with some of our similar age top players

Still a huge lack of power and footwork, Anaïs Salpin really destroyed her this morning, it was hard to watch. Salpin is also more experienced so NGZ's empty balls on FH push with SP didn't work at all, Salpin just played some heavy topspins on her BH, and then on her FH. 4 straight games et voilà. She's also powerful, she's been overweight but she's turned that into power recently with a bit of cardio and muscle conditioning.

Salpin is also a lefty, as Pavade, so you could see the diffrence in years and years of experience. She's a regular in the women's Pro A since a while. And can be fun to watch sometimes

Now NGZ will have to work on her power a lot to be a Jianan Yuan II.

 

[PoppaChubby]

By the way, a point in wanted to make yesterday but didn't. No one wants to throw away the doubles but people should always remember that while it is extremely valuable because it is the first match, it counts for only one match. If a player is strong at singles but weak at doubles (which is rare), the question is whether his singles strength outweighs the doubles issues. This is why Japan was okay fielding two lefties who never seriously played doubles together in the 2021 Tokyo Olympics.

And Alexis + Simon have won vs the best japanese pair possible at the last olympics.

When you're french you remember how to win Davis Cups in tennis, same number of matches with 1 double. The double is WAY more important than you think, specially when played first, it's always good to put pressure on your opponents by winning the first match.

Plus, it frees Felix a bit, that's what happened in Paris when he had to face harimoto right after the double match. He said he wasn't so much concerned to play Harimoto cos' his team mates did the job before "au pire ça fait 1-1", but he was feeling way more tension facing Shinozuka for the decider match.

 

[PoppaChubby]

And... decider again, now for Popo and Anaïs

 

[NextLevel]

And Alexis + Simon have won vs the best japanese pair possible at the last olympics.

When you're french you remember how to win Davis Cups in tennis, same number of matches with 1 double. The double is WAY more important than you think, specially when played first, it's always good to put pressure on your opponents by winning the first match.

Plus, it frees Felix a bit, that's what happened in Paris when he had to face harimoto right after the double match. He said he wasn't so much concerned to play Harimoto cos' his team mates did the job before "au pire ça fait 1-1", but he was feeling way more tension facing Shinoka for the decider match.

That is because his teammates are not better than the opponents. If Coton or Poret develops into a top 10 player, it won't matter. Germany has won European Games after losing doubles and China has won as well (can't remember the event right now but it might have been against Korea or Germany in 2012). Sweden even did it against Japan. If your teammates play well, whether they win in singles or doubles, it is all one point.

 

[PoppaChubby]

Popo !!!

3 finals to play she's been able to win 2 of them, she's done the French Nationals of her life so far.

 

[NextLevel]

Pauline wins. Great comeback after a poor start. So important to hang in there in all things sometimes.

 

[PoppaChubby]

That is because his teammates are not better than the opponents. If Coton or Poret develops into a top 10 player, it won't matter. Germany has won European Games after losing doubles and China has won as well (can't remember the event right now but it might have been against Korea or Germany in 2012). Sweden even did it against Japan. If your teammates play well, whether they win in singles or doubles, it is all one point.

Nope, because of the mental/psycho factor. If Felix si still the number 1, everyone in the team knows it's better to win the very first match.

You can't transpose your point to just any other team, each country has its own specifics.

 

[NextLevel]

Nope, because of the mental/psycho factor. If Felix si still the number 1, everyone in the team knows it's better to win the very first match.

You can't transpose your point to just any other team, each country has its own specifics.

Then how did the other teams win? A point Is just a point. If you win you win. Obviously it is good to take the lead but it is more important to win the match.

 

[PoppaChubby]

I'm 52, have seen some vintage finals, but this one is probably the best ever in the french nationals. Keep this link in your favs folks !

 

[PoppaChubby]

Then how did the other teams win? A point Is just a point. If you win you win. Obviously it is good to take the lead but it is more important to win the match.

That's why I told ya I speak like someone who knows better the situation, Felix still has a lot of mental/psycho work to do. That's why the french staff has chosen this option with Alexis and Simon in double. Now if Alexis is the number 1, yeah it's ok, but not with Felix.

The only one that has some experience in double with Felix is Flavien Coton by the way, so the ideal in that situation would be Alexis being better ranked than Felix

 

[NextLevel]

This is my last word on the subject. You need strong players. Doubled, singles, a win is a win. If Coton or Poret overtake Gauzy in 1 or 2 years, it wil not be doubles that keeps them out. Gauzy us very strong but I think the youth are inspired. We will see.