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Yawn....
There's only one guy here who's paranoid enough to think that they designate a player to face Harimoto in tournaments, or who's always looking for a lead in their decision making. And that's you. Sounds like you need help.
No you came up with that silliness all by yourself. Noticing odd draw coincidences is completely normal. Yet i am sure you still believe your silliness.
 
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What happened to the Shin Yubin/Ryu Hanna partnership?
I think S. Korea is trying different combos. I've seen Ryu Hanna play with Kim Nayeong with success as well. But I don't think it would have made a difference in this match. Harimoto/Odo is just too strong of a combination.
 
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Togami and Harimoto again. These conniving draw manipulators are at work again.
Meeting repeatedly when two high rated players make their seeding is completely normal. To use other sports, it is why Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray played each other so often. But as Zeio pointed out, other such meetings are possible as accidents. But it is completely normal to notice them and not a sign of anything. You can flip coins 20 times and get heads. It can be low probability but it does happen.
 
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A good win for Miyu !

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No you came up with that silliness all by yourself. Noticing odd draw coincidences is completely normal. Yet i am sure you still believe your silliness.
Lol, you mentioned how you think the CNT likes to bring someone to counter Harimoto recently in the WTTC thread, and it's funny that you think that you noticing odd draw coincidences isn't linked to that. Sounds very silly to me.
 
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Meeting repeatedly when two high rated players make their seeding is completely normal. To use other sports, it is why Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray played each other so often. But as Zeio pointed out, other such meetings are possible as accidents. But it is completely normal to notice them and not a sign of anything. You can flip coins 20 times and get heads. It can be low probability but it does happen.
Harimo is 4 , Togami is ranked 30, HYZ is in the 40s.
HYZ was ranked 35-37 ish just last month. There isn't this MASSIVE gap between HYZ and Togami. Gap between them is less than gap between Hari and Shunshuke.
4 and 30 isn't supposed to meet at every other tournament either way but here we are. 30 is not in anyway a "high seed" especially when we talk about the WTTC, Champions and Star Contenders where Hari and Togami have recently clashed.
I'm just talking on a "seeding" level, nothing about their domestic ranking and achievements here because I think that factors in the way you assess seedings.
 
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Well Harimoto will have to play better, beating China isn't the only thing that matters.
Rather, beating Harimoto isn't the only thing that would make Togami Japan's No. 1.
 
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Harimo is 4 , Togami is ranked 30, HYZ is in the 40s.
HYZ was ranked 35-37 ish just last month. There isn't this MASSIVE gap between HYZ and Togami. Gap between them is less than gap between Hari and Shunshuke.
4 and 30 isn't supposed to meet at every other tournament either way but here we are. 30 is not in anyway a "high seed" especially when we talk about the WTTC, Champions and Star Contenders where Hari and Togami have recently clashed.
I'm just talking on a "seeding" level, nothing about their domestic ranking and achievements here because I think that factors in the way you assess seedings.
It becomes increasingly clear that "separation by association", from as far as possible in the early days to first round only to no separation, is a necessary evil. Affirmative action for the rest of the world at the expense of China while China still takes all the blame is nothing but 自欺欺人.

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Lol, you mentioned how you think the CNT likes to bring someone to counter Harimoto recently in the WTTC thread, and it's funny that you think that you noticing odd draw coincidences isn't linked to that. Sounds very silly to me.
Like I said, you draw connections between things to defend the CNT that are completely in your own head. This is not a major event and things like separation by association do not affect seeding or placement in the draw.
 
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Harimo is 4 , Togami is ranked 30, HYZ is in the 40s.
HYZ was ranked 35-37 ish just last month. There isn't this MASSIVE gap between HYZ and Togami. Gap between them is less than gap between Hari and Shunshuke.
4 and 30 isn't supposed to meet at every other tournament either way but here we are. 30 is not in anyway a "high seed" especially when we talk about the WTTC, Champions and Star Contenders where Hari and Togami have recently clashed.
I'm just talking on a "seeding" level, nothing about their domestic ranking and achievements here because I think that factors in the way you assess seedings.
When the top CNT are not in the draw and many tournaments are dominated by registration from one association, 4 and 30, especially an underrated 30 without separation by association, can meet fairly frequently. After all, the same happened with Harimoto and Sora as well. In fact, it wasn't so much a serious statement, but just an oddity. And of course, they didn't meet because Huang lost.
 
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Rather, beating Harimoto isn't the only thing that would make Togami Japan's No. 1.
Well obviously, but that would depend on whether we will take the reading of tea leaves to get to a metric that puts Togami over Harimoto and then use that metric to harass everyone into oblivion...
 
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