Best Chinese sticky rubbers that don't need boosting

[TT Lover]

Big Dipper is probably the closest in weight, it's the only one with a dense blue sponge. In term of spin, I'm not a machine and can't tell how fast a ball is spinning without spinsight, which I don't have access to. My impression is that the 3 I mentioned and the H3 Neo spin the same.

Thank you sir.

 

[Zwill]

I doubt without booster because I'm using all wood OFF 5 plies.

With all wood 7 plies could be possible but I don't like because lacks control for my LP BH.

I think Rxton 7 40deg commercial or 39deg commercial are OK for all wood. I wanna stick it on W968 with a Mantra Pro M on BH side. LAC is also okay, on W968 it didn't feel too slow, but I can tell Rxton 7 is more bouncy.
Granted W968 is still faster than most all wood but it's not a speed demon.

 

[merlin el mago]

I have Loki Rxton V but isn't enough without booster.

 

[chinacurious]

I can only compare it with STN2 (blue and yellow package, BS)

Afaik blue and yellow is STN1. STN2 would be silver and STN3 blue-ish.

 

[euphrate]

Still Arthur China. It feels great on all wood or carbon blades without boosting.

What Chinese rubber without boosting u recommend for bh?

 

[merlin el mago]

What are you looking for coming from G-1, speed?

 

[Grumms]

What Chinese rubber without boosting u recommend for bh?

Depends on your play style and level. Telson 100 or Rxton VII 37º can be OK at intermediate level. Arthur China is probably better though.

 

[DBsystem78]

Only downside I see for now on Rxton 7 37° is when you're far from the table it's kinda hard as the speed is not the main attribute to this rubber but near the table it's Excellent , for myself I think I'll go on Lac Pro once my rxton 7 is used as it can do everything well

 

[belllfador]

Some updates:

I played some more with 729 Broken Boundaries. Don't observe any change in behavior, but I am catching more differences with H3N BS. BB is easier to engage in looping, but still requires the same movements as typical chinese rubber. Block is better than H3N, chop, push and service reserve are mostly the same. Control is dropping on very hard hits, but is better than boosted H3N OS. I boost a piece of rubber scrap with 1 layer of Falco Platinum and the hardness drop from 51 to 48-49degree with permanent dome. Definitely not the same sponge as H3.

For a couple of months and less than 15 hours of play, B3 Purple shrinks a lot with a huge negative dome. The hardness jumped from an initial 54 degrees to 56 and my educated guess is that the rubber was regular B3 with a drop of purple paint and factory boost. 3 layers of Falco Platinum bring back the hardness to 54 and lower most of the negative dome. My final conclusion for this rubber: not buy, go for B3.

 

[merlin el mago]

Thanks for update bellfador.

 

[belllfador]

More updates for 729 BB:

Some details that I missed — the pips arrangement is horizontal, like VS>401. Pips are straight, not slightly conical like H3 and B3.

Now I have a second rubber in red, 40 degrees, but I measure 48 degrees shore o. Is heavier - 63g uncut, with a thicker topsheet than the black one. The level of stickiness is the same as B3, and the rubber is semi-translucent in the same way. The sponge smells on booster, so will rest some time before I use it.

 

[Tyce]

Blue sponge 729 users, have you also experienced difficulty with glue adhesion to the sponge? I thought it was just on Super FX but now I have a Battle 2 blue sponge and it has the same issue... It's the only sponge where the glue is left on the blade when I pull it off.

 

[belllfador]

Blue sponge 729 users, have you also experienced difficulty with glue adhesion to the sponge? I thought it was just on Super FX but now I have a Battle 2 blue sponge and it has the same issue... It's the only sponge where the glue is left on the blade when I pull it off.

Not with black BB and Limitless. Only with B3 purple first glue layer was weak, after was ok.