Best Chinese sticky rubbers that don't need boosting

[TT Lover]

Big Dipper is probably the closest in weight, it's the only one with a dense blue sponge. In term of spin, I'm not a machine and can't tell how fast a ball is spinning without spinsight, which I don't have access to. My impression is that the 3 I mentioned and the H3 Neo spin the same.

Thank you sir.

 

[Zwill]

I doubt without booster because I'm using all wood OFF 5 plies.

With all wood 7 plies could be possible but I don't like because lacks control for my LP BH.

I think Rxton 7 40deg commercial or 39deg commercial are OK for all wood. I wanna stick it on W968 with a Mantra Pro M on BH side. LAC is also okay, on W968 it didn't feel too slow, but I can tell Rxton 7 is more bouncy.
Granted W968 is still faster than most all wood but it's not a speed demon.

 

[merlin el mago]

I have Loki Rxton V but isn't enough without booster.

 

[chinacurious]

I can only compare it with STN2 (blue and yellow package, BS)

Afaik blue and yellow is STN1. STN2 would be silver and STN3 blue-ish.

 

[euphrate]

Still Arthur China. It feels great on all wood or carbon blades without boosting.

What Chinese rubber without boosting u recommend for bh?

 

[merlin el mago]

What are you looking for coming from G-1, speed?

 

[Grumms]

What Chinese rubber without boosting u recommend for bh?

Depends on your play style and level. Telson 100 or Rxton VII 37º can be OK at intermediate level. Arthur China is probably better though.

 

[DBsystem78]

Only downside I see for now on Rxton 7 37° is when you're far from the table it's kinda hard as the speed is not the main attribute to this rubber but near the table it's Excellent , for myself I think I'll go on Lac Pro once my rxton 7 is used as it can do everything well

 

[belllfador]

Some updates:

I played some more with 729 Broken Boundaries. Don't observe any change in behavior, but I am catching more differences with H3N BS. BB is easier to engage in looping, but still requires the same movements as typical chinese rubber. Block is better than H3N, chop, push and service reserve are mostly the same. Control is dropping on very hard hits, but is better than boosted H3N OS. I boost a piece of rubber scrap with 1 layer of Falco Platinum and the hardness drop from 51 to 48-49degree with permanent dome. Definitely not the same sponge as H3.

For a couple of months and less than 15 hours of play, B3 Purple shrinks a lot with a huge negative dome. The hardness jumped from an initial 54 degrees to 56 and my educated guess is that the rubber was regular B3 with a drop of purple paint and factory boost. 3 layers of Falco Platinum bring back the hardness to 54 and lower most of the negative dome. My final conclusion for this rubber: not buy, go for B3.

 

[merlin el mago]

Thanks for update bellfador.

 

[belllfador]

More updates for 729 BB:

Some details that I missed — the pips arrangement is horizontal, like VS>401. Pips are straight, not slightly conical like H3 and B3.

Now I have a second rubber in red, 40 degrees, but I measure 48 degrees shore o. Is heavier - 63g uncut, with a thicker topsheet than the black one. The level of stickiness is the same as B3, and the rubber is semi-translucent in the same way. The sponge smells on booster, so will rest some time before I use it.

 

[Tyce]

Blue sponge 729 users, have you also experienced difficulty with glue adhesion to the sponge? I thought it was just on Super FX but now I have a Battle 2 blue sponge and it has the same issue... It's the only sponge where the glue is left on the blade when I pull it off.

 

[belllfador]

Blue sponge 729 users, have you also experienced difficulty with glue adhesion to the sponge? I thought it was just on Super FX but now I have a Battle 2 blue sponge and it has the same issue... It's the only sponge where the glue is left on the blade when I pull it off.

Not with black BB and Limitless. Only with B3 purple first glue layer was weak, after was ok.

 

[euphrate]

I think Rxton 7 40deg commercial or 39deg commercial are OK for all wood. I wanna stick it on W968 with a Mantra Pro M on BH side. LAC is also okay, on W968 it didn't feel too slow, but I can tell Rxton 7 is more bouncy.
Granted W968 is still faster than most all wood but it's not a speed demon.

Is the list of the rubbers still the same as the beginning of the thread or there is some changes?

 

[Zwill]

Is the list of the rubbers still the same as the beginning of the thread or there is some changes?

I think quanshibao F1 and Rxton 7 are the best picks.
If you want something like K3 the the Rxton 7 is just about there, if you want something more like H3 BS then quanshibao F1. Pinyi Cuifeng might have more potential than both of these but more difficult to use I think.

I will soon go back to China for another half year or so and I wanna test the Battle 3 purple 41.5 degree version. The 40 degree version didn't tickle my fancy much, felt too soft. But I got some hopes for the 41.5 degree version. I really like the B3 topsheet.

I think the Rxton 7 is very underrated, maybe coz it's so cheap but honestly it's just feels very nice to use.

I might try the pinyi cuifeng on my taiwania blade as I never tried it on this one and it really brings the best out of Chinese rubbers.

 

[doppelmoral]

I think quanshibao F1 and Rxton 7 are the best picks.
If you want something like K3 the the Rxton 7 is just about there, if you want something more like H3 BS then quanshibao F1. Pinyi Cuifeng might have more potential than both of these but more difficult to use I think.

I will soon go back to China for another half year or so and I wanna test the Battle 3 purple 41.5 degree version. The 40 degree version didn't tickle my fancy much, felt too soft. But I got some hopes for the 41.5 degree version. I really like the B3 topsheet.

I think the Rxton 7 is very underrated, maybe coz it's so cheap but honestly it's just feels very nice to use.

I might try the pinyi cuifeng on my taiwania blade as I never tried it on this one and it really brings the best out of Chinese rubbers.

usually people prefer rxton 9. for me, rxton 9 topsheet lacked the bite in comparison to h3

what is it for you that rxton 7 has over 9? never got to try the 7

 

[Zwill]

usually people prefer rxton 9. for me, rxton 9 topsheet lacked the bite in comparison to h3

what is it for you that rxton 7 has over 9? never got to try the 7

Rxton 9 for me feels too hard, the 40.5 deg is hard not that fast, tho in short game is was very good, i think probably the best rubber I ever tried, but the arc was very flat. Granted my opponent hated it, said it's extremely quirky rubber.

Rxton 7 has great speed, good contact length, the topsheet material is the same as Rxton 9 and the sponge is probably the same too, but overal feels so much more fast and lively. It's like comparing D05 and D09c, I mean the difference in topsheet. I'm sure the pimple structure is different.

I think Rxton 7 is a lot more usable as it is than Rxton 9.

 

[euphrate]

Rxton 9 for me feels too hard, the 40.5 deg is hard not that fast, tho in short game is was very good, i think probably the best rubber I ever tried, but the arc was very flat. Granted my opponent hated it, said it's extremely quirky rubber.

Rxton 7 has great speed, good contact length, the topsheet material is the same as Rxton 9 and the sponge is probably the same too, but overal feels so much more fast and lively. It's like comparing D05 and D09c, I mean the difference in topsheet. I'm sure the pimple structure is different.

I think Rxton 7 is a lot more usable as it is than Rxton 9.

What degree do you recommend? I find there is 40, 39, and 37 in shopee.

 

[Zwill]

From Rxton 7? Get 40 degree national version. Avoid the others that have a glue layer. The glue layer is a pain in your butt, just get national without it.

 

[ttarc]

From Rxton 7? Get 40 degree national version. Avoid the others that have a glue layer. The glue layer is a pain in your butt, just get national without it.

This version? At least my red ones (37 and 38) I got from https://aliexpress.com/item/1005009239802728.html all had a glue layer.