Best Chinese sticky rubbers that don't need boosting

[Faker]

I buyed my G09C second hand in very good condition. I put it on fast blade and don't like it much. After that I put 1 layer of Falco Platinum, the hardness drop to 48 degrees and the dynamics impruved, unfortunately the mushy feeling remain on hard hits and was too jumpy on low. Only the middle gear is good for my taste. Overall I like it more than LAC and suggest @tay to tried it. Just for comparison and TT science.

If you use haifu instead of Falco, what would change?

 

[belllfador]

If you use haifu instead of Falco, what would change

I have Haifu White 2, tried it on H3 and several other rubbers. The boosting effect is stronger than FP, but after 2 weeks is gone completely. So, if the goal is one week top performance, boosting with haifu will make sense. FP is weak but doesn't evaporate at all. Whatever effect it has will be permanent. It is perfect for old ESN rubbers that shrink and/or has negative dome.

BTW Waiting for this Zyre 03 killer :

 

[oophyte]

I have Haifu White 2, tried it on H3 and several other rubbers. The boosting effect is stronger than FP, but after 2 weeks is gone completely. So, if the goal is one week top performance, boosting with haifu will make sense. FP is weak but doesn't evaporate at all. Whatever effect it has will be permanent. It is perfect for old ESN rubbers that shrink and/or has negative dome.

BTW Waiting for this Zyre 03 killer :
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Best Chinese sticky rubbers that don't need gluing​

 

[tay]

What was the best rubber for 1ply hinoki in your opinion? You played with chinese rubbers only? And did you play jpen?

Okay so just for context, I loveee 1-ply Hinoki with it's buttery-soft feeling. But I just feel I don't have the skill for them especially as I'm a looper. Also @Wakkibatty and @greenbeanmachine are wayyy more knowledgable than me for answering this question. But I'll share what I've found for sure and maybe it will be of some help ^_^

The blades I have tried:
- Pro Pro Moby 9mm, cpen
- Darker Speed 90 9mm, jpen
- Butterfly Senkoh 1 9mm, jpen
- Nittaku Miyabi 9mm, jpen
- No-name cheap one 8mm, cpen

The differences between them are like, a lot... But to keep things straightforward, the Moby/Speed90/Senkoh-1 were more alike, the Miyabi and Noname 8mm felt way different. Softer and I could always feel more vibrations on those than the former 3. The Noname 8mm was heaps slower than the rest, and the Miyabi was a bit slower than the former 3.

The rubbers I liked the most were those with soft sponges, with little catapult. Palio AK47 was nice but I didn't like that it had no tackiness. I went to Nexxus EL Pro 43 and it was so so good, but I bottom'd out way too much. PowerplayX 38deg and 39deg (boosted), Mercury II Soft (boosted, bottom'd out too much though like the Nexxus), H3 Neo 39deg (boosted) -- all were so nice and paired extremely well with hinoki's soft feel with no flex.

All the "tensors" I tried (T05FX, T80, D05, K3, G05, Fastarc G1, MXP) worked super well, they were just way too fast for me. I imagine someone would be able to practice and get used to it. Like arguably the best 1-ply hinoki playerl; Ryu Seung-min -- in a recent video he still recommends Tenergy for 1-ply hinoki.

Classic/Control rubbers like Sriver and Andro Good felt nice too, but not as good as the softer ones I mentioned above.

Hinoki gives plenty of power, so using the classic, soft, or chinese tacky rubbers helps tame that power while giving more of that yummy butter-soft feeling of 1-ply Hinoki. That's the main reason I enjoyed the softer sponge rubbers, but also because my playstyle is around looping. Hinoki excels if your playstyle is centered around hitting and drives. Especially with a tensor! Hits are SO powerful.

The biggest thing for any of the rubbers was to keep it 2.1mm or less, especially if I was boosting it. For some reason it doesn't let the blade effect of a Hinoki through -- and that's the biggest thing compared to multi-ply blades where they can flex. @Wakkibatty explained this here.