Australian Open 2019 [Platinum]

Tony's Table Tennis · Jul 10, 2019

walk over is not just by match started
it is also be injury - look at the doubles

I guess Chen could be the next higher seed to fill in that missing spot

pongfugrasshopper · Jul 10, 2019

Tony's Table Tennis said:
walk over is not just by match started
it is also be injury - look at the doubles

I guess Chen could be the next higher seed to fill in that missing spot

JJH fills in LSW's missing spot. However, this leaves a lucky loser. Miyu Kato has a higher ranking both currently and the ranking used for the Australian Open.

Vlad Celler · Jul 10, 2019

pongfugrasshopper said:
JJH fills in LSW's missing spot. However, this leaves a lucky loser. Miyu Kato has a higher ranking both currently and the ranking used for the Australian Open.

Really....
I have completely ceased to understand what is being done ....
Of course, most likely she will lose ... But points for participation in the second T2 will still be awarded?

usualsuspect · Jul 10, 2019

BlipBlop575 said:
I actually think Harimoto will beat WCQ this time because he tends to get revenge on almost everybody he loses to in a previous encounter.

IMO, WCQ still has more advantages. If WCQ performs adequately, he should beat Harimoto.

Tempest/Comet · Jul 10, 2019

edit: zeio has answered my question, many thanks.

zeio · Jul 10, 2019

2.4. Draws
a. Main Draw
The draw for the seeded players and qualifiers will be conducted, as following:
...
• In case up to 2 seeded players (main draw of 32) cancel participation after the draw is done, they will be replaced by the highest ranked player(s) who qualify to the main draw, according to the WR of the dateof the entry deadline.
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• The seeded players will not receive bye(s) in the first round, when it is possible to complete the main draw with lucky losers coming from the first stage. Lucky losers are always drawn against the highest seeded players.
•If a pair withdraws or cancels participation in the doubles event after the cancellation deadline, it will be not replaced by any other one and a bye will be placed in the draw.

WR as of entry deadline for the 16 potential lucky losers:
Kim Hayeong 97
Maki Shiomi 76
Lin Ye 47
Ng Wing Nam 57
Chen Szu-Yu 24
Ji Eunchae 738
Han Ying 50
Miyu Kato 20
Honoka Hashimoto 23
Xiao Maria 66
Miyu Nagasaki 39
Hana Matelova 55
Li Jie 32
Yang Haeun 95
Gasnier Laura 80
Zeng Jian 64

Kato and Hashimoto probably turned it down? As the lucky loser, Chen Szu-Yu gets drawn against CM, the highest seeded player, per the rule. XX/LSW doesn't get replaced per the rule as well.

Vlad Celler · Jul 10, 2019

Sorry....
....Kato and Hashimoto probably turned it down?..

Probably ?

Honestly, it’s hard to imagine that they refused .... Was it offered to them?

JesperStef · Jul 10, 2019

Selected results from Day 1 and 2 (Tue 09 and Wed 10 July 2019):

Men's Singles

Preliminary round 1:

Tristan Flore 4:3 Xu Yingbin (5:11, 12:10, 6:11, 13:11, 3:11, 11:9, 11:6)
Xiang Peng 4:2 Manav Vikash Thakkar (11:6, 11:9, 7:11, 9:11, 15:13, 11:5)
Xu Chenhao 4:1 Ho Kwan Kit (11:5, 11:9, 12:10, 8:11, 12:10)
Ma Te 4:0 Yeh Chih-Wei (11:6, 11:9, 11:7, 11:5)
Xue Fei 4:3 Shunsuke Togami (11:9, 13:11, 7:11, 11:6, 5:11, 6:11, 11:6)
Sun Wen 4:2 Takuya Jin (3:11, 7:11, 13:11, 11:7, 11:7, 11:8)
An Jaehyun 4:2 Hibiki Tazoe (9:11, 11:7, 15:13, 3:11, 12:10, 11:9)
Florent Lambiet 4:3 Taimu Arinobu (8:11, 12:10, 10:12, 11:7, 6:11, 14:12, 11:5)
Anders Lind 4:3 Huang Chien-Tu (11:5, 6:11, 9:11, 11:3, 11:7, 9:11, 11:8)

Preliminary round 2:

Cho Seungmin 4:1 Vladimir Samsonov [2] (9:11, 11:4, 11:8, 11:7, 11:5)
Zhou Kai 4:3 Simon Gauzy [6] (14:12, 4:11, 6:11, 11:9, 12:14, 11:9, 11:9)
Sun Wen 4:2 Jin Ueda [8] (11:8, 11:5, 10:12, 11:8, 8:11, 11:5)
Andrej Gacina 4:1 Masataka Morizono [11] (7:11, 16:14, 13:11, 11:6, 11:5)
Hwang Minha 4:3 Chen Chien-An [15] (11:9, 11:9, 13:11, 5:11, 8:11, 10:12, 11:8)
Yukiya Uda 4:2 Ricardo Walther [16] (14:12, 11:8, 11:2, 8:11, 9:11, 11:6)
Xu Chenhao 4:2 Tomislav Pucar [17] (11:6, 3:11, 12:14, 11:8, 11:8, 11:6)
Florent Lambiet 4:2 Kenta Matsudaira [18] (11:8, 4:11, 9:11, 11:6, 11:3, 13:11)
Cho Daeseong 4:2 Benedikt Duda [21] (11:9, 11:2, 11:9, 9:11, 10:12, 17:15)
Wang Chuqin 4:2 Alvaro Robles [22] (11:1, 11:5, 9:11, 13:11, 9:11, 11:3)
Mizuki Oikawa 4:1 Bojan Tokic [26] (11:6, 7:11, 11:8, 11:4, 11:5)
Xue Fei 4:2 Lubomir Pistej [27] (7:11, 11:5, 8:11, 11:9, 11:9, 11:8)
An Jaehyun 4:1 Park Ganghyeon [32] (11:9, 11:6, 5:11, 12:10, 11:8)

[3] Jeoung Youngsik 4:3 Kim Minhyeok (8:11, 12:10, 11:9, 9:11, 9:11, 13:11, 11:9)
[5] Lim Jonghoon 4:3 Kohei Sambe (12:10, 7:11, 11:7, 11:5, 10:12, 8:11, 11:8)
[7] Sathiyan Gnanasekaran 4:1 Xiang Peng (11:7, 6:11, 11:6, 20:18, 11:8)
[20] Darko Jorgic 4:1 Ma Te (11:9, 6:11, 11:8, 11:5, 11:7)
[29] Zheng Peifeng 4:2 Dang Qiu, GER (10:12, 11:9, 11:13, 11:8, 11:8, 11:6)
[30] Robert Gardos 4:3 Anders Lind (11:8, 8:11, 11:7, 11:9, 9:11, 8:11, 11:4)

Preliminary round 3 (winners qualify for Main Draw):

[4] Lin Yun-Ju 4:1 Can Akkuzu [25] (11:9, 9:11, 11:6, 11:5, 11:9)
[5] Lim Jonghoon 4:3 Achanta Sharath Kamal [19] (14:16, 11:6, 7:11, 11:6, 11:7, 7:11, 12:10)
[10] Kristian Karlsson 4:1 Pavel Sirucek [28] (11:6, 11:9, 11:6, 6:11, 11:7)
[13] Jonathan Groth 4:2 Xue Fei (7:11, 11:7, 11:6, 11:1, 7:11, 11:8)
[14] Marcos Freitas 4:0 Omar Assar [31] (12:10, 14:12, 12:10, 11:9)
[20] Darko Jorgic 4:1 Jeoung Youngsik [3] (9:11, 11:7, 11:8, 11:5, 11:9)
[23] Kazuhiro Yoshimura 4:3 Hwang Minha (12:10, 6:11, 11:8, 11:7, 7:11, 6:11, 11:8)
[24] Wang Yang, SVK 4:0 Sathiyan Gnanasekaran [7] (14:12, 11:8, 11:6, 11:6)
[29] Zheng Peifeng 4:3 Chuang Chih-Yuan [9] (8:11, 11:3, 11:6, 11:9, 7:11, 7:11, 11:8)

Cho Daeseong 4:2 Wong Chun Ting [1] (11:9, 9:11, 7:11, 11:9, 11:7, 11:2)
Wang Chuqin 4:1 Maharu Yoshimura [12] (11:13, 11:5, 11:6, 11:8, 12:10)
Cho Seungmin 4:0 Robert Gardos [30] (13:11, 11:6, 11:3, 11:6)
Xu Chenhao 4:0 Andrej Gacina (11:6, 11:5, 11:3, 12:10)
Sun Wen 4:2 An Jaehyun (11:13, 7:11, 11:9, 11:2, 11:7, 11:9)
Mizuki Oikawa 4:2 Zhou Kai (11:5, 7:11, 7:11, 11:6, 13:11, 11:8)
Yukiya Uda 4:0 Florent Lambiet (13:11, 11:4, 11:9, 11:6)

Notes:
- 5 of the 1-16 seeded players and 4 of the 17-32 seeded players qualified for the main draw.
- Nationalities of the 16 qualifiers: China (4), Japan (3), South Korea (3), Chinese Taipei (1), Denmark (1), Portugal (1), Slovakia (1), Slovenia (1), Sweden (1).
- 4 of the 9 CNT players qualified for the main draw: Sun Wen (beat Takuya Jin, Jin Ueda and An Jaehyun), Wang Chuqin (beat Robles and Maharu Yoshimura), Xu Chenhao (beat Morizono and Gacina) and Zheng Peifeng (beat Dang Qiu and Chuang).
- 5 CNT players were knocked out: Xu Yingbin (Flore), Xiang Peng (Gnanasekaran), Ma Te (Jorgic), Xue Fei (Groth) and Zhou Kai (Oikawa)

CNT vs JNT score: 3:1
R1: Xue Fei 4:3 Shunsuke Togami
R1: Sun Wen 4:2 Takuya Jin
R2: Sun Wen 4:2 Jin Ueda
R3: Zhou Kai 2:4 Mizuki Oikawa

Women's Singles

Preliminary round 1:

Liu Fei 4:3 Lee Eunhye (15:17, 11:3, 11:7, 6:11, 15:13, 4:11, 11:7)

Preliminary round 2:

Sun Mingyang 4:0 Suthasini Sawettabut [7] (11:1, 11:3, 11:9, 11:8)
Shiho Matsudaira 4:0 Fu Yu, POR [8] (w.o.)
Li Jiayi 4:2 Hina Hayata [9] (11:4, 11:5, 7:11, 11:7, 9:11, 11:7)
Liu Weishan 4:0 Yu Mengyu [14] (11:9, 11:7, 11:3, 11:5)
Mu Zi 4:0 Manika Batra [18] (11:6, 14:12, 11:2, 11:8)
Qian Tianyi 4:2 Cheng Hsien-Tzu [19] (5:11, 11:8, 11:5, 8:11, 11:8, 11:8)
Ji Eunchae 4:3 Satsuki Odo [22] (4:11, 10:12, 11:9, 11:7, 11:5, 11:13, 11:8)
Zhang Qiang 4:0 Sarah De Nutte [26] (11:8, 11:8, 11:6, 11:4)
Yui Hamamoto, AUT 4:1 Dana Cechova [30] (11:5, 11:5, 11:7, 9:11, 11:1)

[2] Sun Yingsha 4:0 Yang Huijing (11:4, 11:1, 11:8, 11:7)
[27] Choi Hyojoo 4:2 Liu Fei (7:11, 11:4, 9:11, 14:12, 11:3, 11:1)
[28] Maki Shiomi 4:3 Lee Zion (8:11, 11:9, 7:11, 8:11, 15:13, 11:9, 11:4)

Preliminary round 3 (winners qualify for Main Draw):

[1] Jeon Jihee 4:1 Kim Hayeong [32] (11:7, 13:15, 11:8, 11:7, 15:13)
[2] Sun Yingsha 4:1 Zeng Jian [24] (11:3, 2:11, 11:4, 11:7, 11:8)
[10] Minnie Soo Wai Yam 4:3 Laura Gasnier [29] (11:13, 11:9, 5:11, 11:7, 11:13, 13:11, 11:8)
[12] Lee Ho Ching 4:2 Yang Haeun [31] (11:5, 9:11, 9:11, 11:9, 11:8, 11:9)
[13] Barbora Balazova 4:1 Ji Eunchae (11:8, 11:6, 11:5, 9:11, 12:10)
[15] Nina Mittelham 4:1 Han Ying, GER [17] (11:7, 11:4, 14:12, 6:11, 11:9)
[23] Miyuu Kihara 4:1 Li Jie, NED [6] (11:5, 11:9, 8:11, 11:9, 11:7)
[27] Choi Hyojoo 4:3 Chen Szu-Yu [5] (11:5, 7:11, 6:11, 11:9, 10:12, 11:8, 11:8)

Qian Tianyi 4:1 Miyu Kato [3] (12:10, 11:4, 11:5, 7:11, 11:8)
Mu Zi 4:3 Honoka Hashimoto [4] (11:8, 11:7, 6:11, 11:13, 1:11, 11:6, 12:10)
Zhang Qiang 4:0 Miyu Nagasaki [11] (11:5, 11:9, 11:5, 11:7)
Yui Hamamoto, AUT 4:2 Lin Ye [16] (11:2, 11:5, 11:6, 11:13, 5:11, 11:8)
Sun Mingyang 4:2 Hana Matelova [20] (13:11, 11:5, 5:11, 11:13, 11:4, 15:13)
Shiho Matsudaira 4:2 Ng Wing Nam [21] (6:11, 12:10, 13:11, 5:11, 11:5, 11:6)
Liu Weishan 4:2 Maria Xiao, ESP [25] (11:6, 2:11, 11:6, 11:6, 5:11, 11:4)
Li Jiayi 4:0 Maki Shiomi [28] (11:7, 11:9, 11:6, 11:5)

Notes:
- 6 of the 1-16 seeded players and 2 of the 17-32 seeded players qualified for the main draw.
- Nationalities of the 16 qualifiers: China (7), Hong Kong (2), Japan (2), South Korea (2), Austria (1), Germany (1) and Slovakia (1).
- 7 of the 9 CNT players qualified for the main draw: Sun Yingsha, Li Jiayi, Liu Weishan, Mu Zi, Qian Tianyi, Sun Mingyang and Zhang Qiang.
- 2 CNT players knocked out: Liu Fei (Choi Hyojoo) and Yang Huijing (Sun Yingsha).

CNT vs JNT score so far: 5:0
R2: Li Jiayi 4:2 Hina Hayata
R3: Qian Tianyi 4:1 Miyu Kato
R3: Mu Zi 4:3 Honoka Hashimoto
R3: Zhang Qiang 4:0 Miyu Nagasaki
R3: Li Jiayi 4:0 Maki Shiomi

Source: https://www.ittf.com/tournament/5007/2019/2019-ittf-world-tour-australian-open/

pongfugrasshopper · Jul 10, 2019

Vlad Celler said:
Sorry....
....Kato and Hashimoto probably turned it down?..

Probably ?

Honestly, it’s hard to imagine that they refused .... Was it offered to them?

I agree. Hard to believe they would turn it down. You get a free shot at CM, and even in a probable loss, the learning experience is worth it alone at a Platinum Tour event.

zeio · Jul 10, 2019

Because the 1st bullet doesn't really answer the question. According to the rules for the Challenge Series, lucky losers are drawn from "the players eliminated in the last round of the qualification." However, this is not mentioned in the rules for World Tour.

c. Qualifiers & Lucky Losers:
• The highest finishers in each group who have not qualified for the main draw (in case of group qualification) and players eliminated in the last round of the qualification (in case of knock-out system) may be drawn into the competition as “Lucky Losers”, to fill any empty spots in the first round of the main event. The final decision to be taken by the ITTF Competition Manager.

P.S. The paragraph above is in the rules for World Tour 2018, but it's gone missing in 2019.

Vlad Celler · Jul 10, 2019

pongfugrasshopper

Originally Posted by Vlad Celler

Sorry....
....Kato and Hashimoto probably turned it down?..

Probably ?

Honestly, it’s hard to imagine that they refused .... Was it offered to them?

I agree. Hard to believe they would turn it down. You get a free shot at CM, and even in a probable loss, the learning experience is worth it alone at a Platinum Tour event.

I agree.

Jacky Kwok · Jul 10, 2019

What I read from Weibo is that the extra spot was determined by lucky draw of all prelim round 3 losers.

zeio · Jul 10, 2019

ITTF fail big time once again by taking out a crucial passage from the rules. MFSB.

Loopadoop · Jul 10, 2019

Preliminary R3

Darko Jorgic 4:1 Jeoung Youngsik

Last week Jys beat FZD , now looks even more like a CNT courtesy.

Tony's Table Tennis · Jul 10, 2019

bizarre rule...
so applies for singles, why not doubles?

Jacky Kwok · Jul 10, 2019

It should be because LSW pull out after the doubles main event draw but before the single main event draw.

The doubles preliminary matches finished in the morning and the doubles main event draw was held right after. LSW was not pull out yet at that time.

PingLevels · Jul 10, 2019

jeoung is a very much player that can buzz but he sometimes has some losses to people you wouldnt expect. Not taking anything away from Darko Jorgic !

NextLevel · Jul 10, 2019

Tony's Table Tennis said:
very odd, I don't think I saw this before
Before the seeding and draw, one can reshuffle due to withdrawal.
But after it and after tournament starts, it should be WO, not resuffle.
I would assume Chen only got through because she lost 4-3, and maybe her point scores was more than the other 4-3 losers

i've ask a blue badge umpire that I know (due to become deputy referee at Tokyo), so far no reply

Lucky loser, random draw.

Konrad Bak · Jul 10, 2019

I saw match. He had 7:5 In second set and his mindset change after 2 bad receives, He loose his focus

Tony's Table Tennis · Jul 10, 2019

NextLevel said:
Lucky loser, random draw.

thanks NL, but we knew few hours ago already

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