All+/Off- blades with Hinoki top veneers and inner/outer composition layers

**IB66** · 01-16-2021

Hi Everyone,

Looking for some blades with quality Hinoki outer veneers, with either inner or outer carbon or composition layers. Classed as Off- or All+
I believe Loki ‘God of War’ range (think it’s GOW2) has such a blade, looking for similar alternatives.

any help appreciated

**IB66** · 01-16-2021

Originally Posted by IB66

Hi Everyone,

Looking for some blades with quality Hinoki outer veneers, with either inner or outer carbon or composition layers. Classed as Off- or All+
I believe Loki ‘God of War’ range (think it’s GOW2) has such a blade, looking for similar alternatives.

any help appreciated

Just checked, it’s the Gid of War 1 blade

**Kuba Hajto** · 01-16-2021

Gewo Aruna, yogi made review. I happen to have one for sale, so I won't opine on that blade. Just listing this as a potential option.

**EyyT** · 01-16-2021

Is dangerous to play with a hinoki outer layers blade, after a time playing with regular blades its feel very weird

**yoass** · 01-16-2021

As Hinoki inner blades go, I hold the Joola Rosskopf Emotion in high esteem.

**Konrad Bak** · 01-16-2021

Yup. Joola has great one and it is good choice

**Ivek** · 01-16-2021

Nittaku Septear Feel Inner is a really nice blade with inner carbon composition.

**Ray** · 01-16-2021

There's Nittaku Septear Feel Inner, but its composition is 7+2C instead of the common 5+2C.

**latej** · 01-16-2021

Andro Treiber FI (OFF)
https://www.andro.de/products/blades...-fi-off-en-gb/

VODAK Hinoki Carbon (OFF)
https://www.vodak-dreva.cz/dreva/hinoki-carbon-off/41/

**yogi_bear** · 01-16-2021

Gewo Aruna is between off and off+

**Manto76** · 01-16-2021

I'm not sure if Spruce would be an acceptable alternative for you? If so that opens up a whole bunch of options. One that comes to mind in the ALL+ / OFF- area is the Donic Appelgren World Champion '89.

I haven't played with a Spruce blade myself though, so I can't comment on how close it is to Hinoki.

**ejprinz** · 01-16-2021

Among the Yinhe/Galaxy T- series, the T-7 is the most controlled one (3 wood / 2 ALC). Plays very nicely but the flared version is currently out of stock at princett.com (link).

From Sanwei the HC Speed Light is a Hinoki outer / innerforce blade (5 wood / 2 ALC), see link and review - in German, switch on CC and auto-English translation.

Both of these blades play very nicely and manufacturing quality is great. I play them with short pips backhand (Nittaku Moristo SP or Yinhe Uranus Pro). They are "Off" blades, not "Off-" or "All+" .

For me (USATT ~1240) they are too fast for tournament, I would probably play my 5-ply Yinhe E3-VB (Limba outer) for the next tournament, or the 5-ply Yinhe Pro-5W (Walnut outer). Also these are blades for close to the table, maybe a few steps back, but not very far back.

**yogi_bear** · 01-17-2021

try cypress outer ply blades like the one in the T-series of Yinhe. instead of Hinoki, Yinhe uses Cypress.

**IB66** · 01-17-2021

Originally Posted by EyyT

Is dangerous to play with a hinoki outer layers blade, after a time playing with regular blades its feel very weird

I’ve used Hinoki veneer blades before, usually faster blades, it’s far from dangerous or weird!!!

**nazarit** · 01-17-2021

Yinhe T-8s, Cypress Outer ply, the blade with 5-ply wood layer +2-Aramid carbon layer .

**Magic_M** · 01-17-2021

Xiom Ignito fits to the wishes and additionally it looks really great ;-)

**Trayanee** · 01-17-2021

Loki Arthur Pro blades are all Hinoki top and composite. A bit expensive but quality seems to be very high. Its better to wait for aliexpress sale. Rated off+ but Chinese seem to think off+ sells best, so they write it on everything. This one was for $65 a week ago

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000156107306.html

This one is ZLC 3+2.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000162202655.html

**BVGN** · 01-17-2021

Originally Posted by Ivek

Nittaku Septear Feel Inner is a really nice blade with inner carbon composition.

Yes - I am playing with it for two years now, having 3 blades of it. BTW, the Outer Version is a little faster and more direct.
I have tried a few other Hinoki blades, but the Septear Feel Inner feels very well and somehow alive.

**IB66** · 01-17-2021

Originally Posted by yoass

As Hinoki inner blades go, I hold the Joola Rosskopf Emotion in high esteem.

I have a TPE Perform, with straight handle, because this blade has been discontinued I’m struggling to find one with a flared handle.
Bribar still have them but only with straight handle.
The TPE Perform I believe is the same composition as the Rossi Emotion, so it seems this would be the most logical choice!!

Anyone tried the Rossi Emotion PBO-c ??

**yogi_bear** · 01-17-2021

Originally Posted by Magic_M

Xiom Ignito fits to the wishes and additionally it looks really great ;-)

Yup this one is good. Axelo if you want a rocket.

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