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As solid as a player that Bobrow is, him constantly going for snakes and lobbing immediately off of the serve gets a bit stale, especially when he does this against pro players. There seem to be lots of opportunities that he could go for a real shot but would rather continue the rally to appeal to casual fans, I don't know.
LYJ playing righty is pretty interesting never-before-seen type of stuff. Seems like he is probably a half decent club player with his off hand. But I'm not a huge fan of the "challenge match" type of content - there is never any challenge and the pro players can't even begin to show what makes them so amazing with that big of a skill discrepancy. I think the "Ask a Pro Anything" or "Day in the Life" type stuff that gives insight into their daily training, routines, etc. is more interesting.
Agreed. Wasted opportunity.
I would far prefer to hear him talk about his life and family and how he got to no.7
It is always a bit unfair to judge a player against a pro template without knowing how he evolved and how long he has been playing. Bobrow has always played this way.
Not sure why it is a wasted opportunity. You guys are tough. This channel is a chance to see Bobrow make table tennis look fun and entertaining to even the casual viewer on some level. At least I find it entertaining. He is going to have more videos so we will get to see a lot of TT. For me playing sports is a form of communication. You get to see someone's TT culture on the table. Interviews are just stories that you can find in books. Seeing Lin play someone at the 2200 level makes you appreciate hisngsme better. BTW, if memory serves me right, Lin seemed better than Boll with his right hand.
Guys, let's remember that he is going to play more matches with Lin Yun Ju's training team and then with Lin Yun Ju at full strength. And Bobrow has many videos of his matches before he got to 2200 - he has always been a lobber/Fisher with the occasional direct loop thrown in. For me it actually makes the game more interesting to see how his style actually gives the younger kids trouble.
What is unfair? I know that Bobrow has always been a lobber. I also know that he is a better player than most people here and the majority of club players, and give him credit for being a good player, but none of that means that it makes it fun to watch him against someone who is 100x better. With all these opportunities he has to interact with top players, after seeing all these challenge match videos where the pro players are just half-assed smashing and dropshotting, it gets a bit repetitive. So, I do think getting to see LYJ play righty was a nice choice. I found it very interesting to see his town, his training facility and team, etc. I hope we get more insight into that stuff rather than only challenge matches.
I agree that "wasted opportunity" is a bit tough. I was more going for "room for improvement" and hope that my post reads as such. What he is doing now is better than nothing but I was a big fan of TTD's "day in the life" series.
I have a sneaky suspicion we will find out that LYJ is a natural right-hander...there are a few factors that have made me wonder that.
It's actually interesting, I think with the old ball his style would have given kids a lot more trouble. Harimoto's sister (despite being a much better player) didn't seem to struggle with the spin a lot nor did the girl in the video below, who is maybe a level better than Adam. Note the video might be hard to watch in it's entirety due to what I mentioned in my initial post, this is one of the cases where I feel that his constantly lobbing is less of a playstyle thing and more of a theatrical decision.
The pros would beat just about any player at Adam's level half assed smashing and dropshotting and we see this all the time when Dan plays them in equipment reviews. That is just as repetitive and we don't hear you complain there. So this is something else. All those things you mention are part of the experience Adam is bringing in his videos. I think there should be a more positive appreciation of the what Adam is doing and less complaining about a desire for information that you would probably be able to get in 2 seconds if you spoke Chinese to someone like TonyTableTennis.
I think you confuse playing level with trouble. An adult 2200 player playing in straight forward style would have a different issue playing with these kids. But if you think Adam isn't making the kids hesitate with his style that is your prerogative. My experience playing tells me a very different thing. That girl wants to overwhelm him with speed but struggles to do so.
Do not know the ranking in the US so well But thought 2200 to be pretty high? Is bobrow so good?
Top players would likely prefer not to have some random like Bobrow coming to challenge them in serious matches and recording them, as they have nothing to gain and respect could be lost. But having him come for some tomfoolery is unique and offers a special brand of entertainment, allowing everyone to relax and have fun.
Dan vs pros, Dan should not want to do well against them when reviewing a pros personal equipment. It's much better for his brand if he loses handily. I even saw a vid when he let Waldner win because Waldner wasn't playing well.
It's about marketability, allows for them to get access to these players to begin with. If you interview them they're just gonna say they practice alot and have good coaching, that's not particularly interesting either.
I'm only moderately entertained by Dan's challenge matches as well so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make by saying that I've never explicitly posted that. The difference is that those are usually done as part of a sponsored review, Dan has less free reign to go off the table I assume. In cases that he can, I'm more interested by seeing actual video content for day in the life type stuff like he did with Maze, as I've said before. Not sure why you seem to be implying there is something insidious here, I am far from a Bobrow hater and think he has done tremendous good for promoting the sport, and am quite sure I have mentioned this before.
Seeing LYJ understand and respond in English was something that I was surprised to see not addressed. I have heard that he understands it well but isn't confident in speaking yet, but that is something that sets him apart from a lot of Asian stars, so I'd like to hear more about things like that in the future videos and hope it isn't 15 more minutes of Bobrow lobbing people's pushes. Is that fair?