Advantages of older generation rubbers (R7,G1,Vega Pro,..) ?

[lodro]

Happy now? Because I'm not.

Ohhh, i sure want you to be happy ! 😁

as you seem to be the expert please help me understand what is ""keeping the tension in a rubber"". I understood the idea of a matt on a trampoline , the tighter it is stretched the more the bouncy effect, right ????
Now what has got me befuddled is that with the trampoline the stretching is held in place by the solid metal frame, so what then holds the tension in our rubbers ???????
Gluing the stretched top rubber on to the sponge is sure not going to do anything other than create a flubber- ball. 😂

 

[Scifer]

Ohhh, i sure want you to be happy ! 😁

as you seem to be the expert please help me understand what is ""keeping the tension in a rubber"". I understood the idea of a matt on a trampoline , the tighter it is stretched the more the bouncy effect, right ????
Now what has got me befuddled is that with the trampoline the stretching is held in place by the solid metal frame, so what then holds the tension in our rubbers ???????
Gluing the stretched top rubber on to the sponge is sure not going to do anything other than create a flubber- ball. 😂

I don't know for sure, but a guess:

So rubber is a polymer made up of a 'soup' of molecular chains that are periodically cross-linked. The rubber molecules could all be mass orientated via stretching or rolling at high temperature (where the molecules are soft and move easily). Then whilst in this state quickly quenched, freezing these molecules in this uniform orientation. Thermodynamically the rubber wants to reorient it's molecules in a random pattern, but kinetically it cannot. What results is a material with a lot of internal stresses, such that it responds to deformation in a more aggressive way (rebounds harder) .. Aka the rubber has tension.

 

[lodro]

I don't know for sure, but a guess:

So rubber is a polymer made up of a 'soup' of molecular chains that are periodically cross-linked. The rubber molecules could all be mass orientated via stretching or rolling at high temperature (where the molecules are soft and move easily). Then whilst in this state quickly quenched, freezing these molecules in this uniform orientation. Thermodynamically the rubber wants to reorient it's molecules in a random pattern, but kinetically it cannot. What results is a material with a lot of internal stresses, such that it responds to deformation in a more aggressive way (rebounds harder) .. Aka the rubber has tension.

thanking you kindly.
Yes, this makes perfect sense

 

[WingTT]

It's hard to generalise rubbers based on generation but the trend is toward harder rubbers. The only advantage older rubbers have is maybe price and familiarity if you're used to a particular rubber and want to stick to it. There is a good reason why harder rubbers are getting more popular, it's because they really do work better with the plastic ball.

 

[Brozi]

For me its mostly price of the old rubbers, as well as the ease of use. Ive tried Rakza XX, and while it was really dynamic and spinny, it was just too difficult to get a consistent performance out of it, as the shot needed to be perfect each time. But the newer ones were certainly more grippy and more dynamic.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Ha ha ha ha ho ho tee hee hee....

Since G1, R7 et al are considered old gen.

Sriver and Mark V are definitely boomers!

 

[WingTT]

Ha ha ha ha ho ho tee hee hee....

Since G1, R7 et al are considered old gen.

Sriver and Mark V are definitely boomers!

It's no joke. Sriver and Mark V are over 50 years old. Boomers indeed.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

It's no joke. Sriver and Mark V are over 50 years old. Boomers indeed.

Sigh... five years from now, kids will be calling me gramps for using Tenergy. C'est la vie....

 

[olive-nguyen]

Ha ha ha ha ho ho tee hee hee....

Since G1, R7 et al are considered old gen.

Sriver and Mark V are definitely boomers!

What about Bryce High Speed

 

[olive-nguyen]

My dad used to have an old Butterfly Senkoh 1 with very very dead Sriver.

 

[SFF_lib]

What about Bryce High Speed

Bryce needs boosting

 

[olive-nguyen]

Ryu Seung Min and speed glue.

 

[Tyce]

Ohhh, i sure want you to be happy ! 😁

as you seem to be the expert please help me understand what is ""keeping the tension in a rubber"". I understood the idea of a matt on a trampoline , the tighter it is stretched the more the bouncy effect, right ????
Now what has got me befuddled is that with the trampoline the stretching is held in place by the solid metal frame, so what then holds the tension in our rubbers ???????
Gluing the stretched top rubber on to the sponge is sure not going to do anything other than create a flubber- ball. 😂

Isn't that why edge tape is invented?