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Day 2 Schedule (Sat 16 September):

Women's Singles:

Challenge KO (Round of 16, Best of 5 games):
Miu Hirano 3:1 Manika Batra (11:7,8:11, 11:8, 11:6)
Lee Ho Ching 1:3 Suh Hyowon (9:11,13:11, 9:11, 9:11)


Quarter-finals:

11:00 (GMT+5:30)
T1 Zhu Yuling 4:0 Cheng I-Ching (11:5,11:3, 11:2, 11:3)
T2 Kasumi Ishikawa vs Doo Hoi Kem

11:45 (GMT+5:30)
T1 Chen Szu-Yu vs Miu Hirano
T2 Liu Shiwen vs Suh Hyowon


Men's Singles:

Challenge KO (Round of 16, Best of 5 games):
Noshad Alamiyan 2:3 Lee Sangsu (4:11,12:10, 13:11, 2:11, 10:12)
Nima Alamian 1:3 Chen Chien-An (5:11,11:4, 8:11, 7:11)


Quarter-finals:

12:30 (GMT+5:30)
Jun Mizutani vs Fan Zhendong
Lin Gaoyuan vs Jeong Sangeun

13:15 (GMT+5:30)
T1 Koki Niwa vs Chen Chien-An

T2 Chuang Chih-Yuan vs Lee Sangsu


 
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Day 2 Schedule (Sat 16 September):

Women's Singles:

Challenge KO (Round of 16, Best of 5 games):
Miu Hirano 3:1 Manika Batra (11:7,8:11, 11:8, 11:6)
Lee Ho Ching 1:3 Suh Hyowon (9:11,13:11, 9:11, 9:11)


Quarter-finals:

11:00 (GMT+5:30)
T1 Zhu Yuling 4:0 Cheng I-Ching (11:5,11:3, 11:2, 11:3)
T2 Kasumi Ishikawa vs Doo Hoi Kem

11:45 (GMT+5:30)
T1 Chen Szu-Yu vs Miu Hirano
T2 Liu Shiwen vs Suh Hyowon


Men's Singles:

Challenge KO (Round of 16, Best of 5 games):
Noshad Alamiyan 2:3 Lee Sangsu (4:11,12:10, 13:11, 2:11, 10:12)
Nima Alamian 1:3 Chen Chien-An (5:11,11:4, 8:11, 7:11)


Quarter-finals:

12:30 (GMT+5:30)
Jun Mizutani vs Fan Zhendong
Lin Gaoyuan vs Jeong Sangeun

13:15 (GMT+5:30)
T1 Koki Niwa vs Chen Chien-An

T2 Chuang Chih-Yuan vs Lee Sangsu



what a pity ...... Noshad was beating Lee sangsu . lucky lee ...... . Nima has improved a lot ... bravo bros ...

Really wanna see the game between liu shiwen and seo hyowon . where can i watch??
 
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It's a pity that ittf didn't show the second table..
I would love to watch the match of Koki Niwa, or the replay of Liu Shiwen against Seo..
 
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Men's Singles:

Day 1 (Fri 15 September):

Group A:
1) Fan Zhendong 2:3 Chen Chien-An (11:13, 7:11, 11:6, 11:9, 8:11)
2) Koki Niwa 3:2 Ho Kwan Kit (11:8, 10:12, 11:3, 14:16, 11:4)
3) Fan Zhendong 3:1 Koki Niwa (11:8, 11:8, 8:11, 12:10)
4) Chen Chien-An 3:2 Ho Kwan Kit (9:11, 11:4, 7:11, 11:8, 11:5)
5) Koki Niwa 3:0 Chen Chien-An (13:11, 12:10, 11:4)
6) Fan Zhendong 3:0 Ho Kwan Kit (13:11, 16:14, 11:3)
Standings:
1) Koki Niwa (2:1, games 4:3)
2) Fan Zhendong (2:1, games 5:4)
3) Chen Chien-An (2:1, games 3:5)
4) Ho Kwan Kit (0:3)

How did you counted games? Niwa won 7 games and lost 5 and FZD won 8 games and lot 4
 
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How did you counted games? Niwa won 7 games and lost 5 and FZD won 8 games and lot 4

The matches against Ho Kwan Kit doesn't count - only the matches between Niwa, Fan and Chen. So Niwa has 1:3 + 3:0 = 4:3, Fan has 2:3 + 3:1 = 5:4 and Chen has 3:2 + 0:3 = 3:5.

Niwa finishes first because 4:3 (1.33) is better than 5:4 (1.25). Personally, I find this rule quite stupid (using "ratio" and not just the game score/ difference), but that's the way it is... :confused:
 
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The matches against Ho Kwan Kit doesn't count - only the matches between Niwa, Fan and Chen. So Niwa has 1:3 + 3:0 = 4:3, Fan has 2:3 + 3:1 = 5:4 and Chen has 3:2 + 0:3 = 3:5.

Niwa finishes first because 4:3 (1.33) is better than 5:4 (1.25). Personally, I find this rule quite stupid (using "ratio" and not just the game score/ difference), but that's the way it is... :confused:

ahh this is the way... aslo I think it is stupid. If we look at the ranking we have 3 players:
FZD- should won all the matches to be safe, but he lost to lower ranked player, so he played below his rank
koki- played his usual, he won with the lower ranked players and lost to higher one, se second spot is what it should be
Chen - should win only with Ho who is lower ranked, but he won with the best ranked player, so it is something beyond expectations and he should gain more points with that
In that siutation in my opinion the final spots should be:
1. Chen
2. Koki
3. FZD
And now the player who should reach the final (mizutani) has to fight for 5th place and 2 players who he beat are fighting now for final.
 
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The matches against Ho Kwan Kit doesn't count - only the matches between Niwa, Fan and Chen. So Niwa has 1:3 + 3:0 = 4:3, Fan has 2:3 + 3:1 = 5:4 and Chen has 3:2 + 0:3 = 3:5.

Niwa finishes first because 4:3 (1.33) is better than 5:4 (1.25). Personally, I find this rule quite stupid (using "ratio" and not just the game score/ difference), but that's the way it is... :confused:

It's just a mathematical way of rewarding a 3-0 win and 1-3 loss over a 3-1 win an 2-3 loss. Think about it, it is not as "stupid" as it seems. The ratio is a short way of getting the same result.
 
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It's just a mathematical way of rewarding a 3-0 win and 1-3 loss over a 3-1 win an 2-3 loss. Think about it, it is not as "stupid" as it seems. The ratio is a short way of getting the same result.

Maybe "stupid" is not the correct word to describe this.

But I have to admit that I can't understand WHY a 3-0 win/1-3 loss should be better than a 3-1 win/2-3 loss? If you have any great arguments for that, please let me know? :confused:

Just because a rule makes sense in a mathematical way, doesn't mean that it's fair - and really I think that's the case here. But if you don't - no problem. We can just agree to disagree :eek:
 
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Maybe "stupid" is not the correct word to describe this.

But I have to admit that I can't understand WHY a 3-0 win/1-3 loss should be better than a 3-1 win/2-3 loss? If you have any great arguments for that, please let me know? :confused:

Just because a rule makes sense in a mathematical way, doesn't mean that it's fair - and really I think that's the case here. But if you don't - no problem. We can just agree to disagree :eek:

Getting the same result in fewer games is more efficient. If you don't agree, that is fine. But the math is about the efficiency. It is not about the math.
 
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Getting the same result in fewer games is more efficient. If you don't agree, that is fine. But the math is about the efficiency. It is not about the math.

Makes no sense to me whatsoever, so let's just enjoy the rest of the weekend :D

BTW, as a coach and player I really enjoy your postings here - as well as in other forums. So please, keep up the good work!
 
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Day 2 (Sat 16 September):

Men's Singles:

Challenge KO (Round of 16):
Noshad Alamiyan 2:3 Lee Sangsu (4:11, 12:10, 13:11, 2:11, 10:12)
Nima Alamian 1:3 Chen Chien-An (5:11, 11:4, 8:11, 7:11)

Quarter-finals:
Koki Niwa 2:4 Chen Chien-An (11:7, 7:11, 6:11, 11:3, 11:13, 11:13)
Lin Gaoyuan 4:1 Jeong Sangeun (6:11, 11:9, 11:6, 11:6, 11:5)
Jun Mizutani 2:4 Fan Zhendong (8:11, 13:11, 14:16, 5:11, 8:11)
Lee Sangsu 4:3 Chuang Chih-Yuan (11:6, 11:7, 9:11, 11:7, 9:11, 7:11, 11:9)

Positions 5-8:
Koki Niwa 3:4 Jeong Sangeun (11:6, 11:9, 8:11, 11:7, 11:13, 11:13, 8:11)
Jun Mizutani 4:3 Chuang Chih-Yuan (8:11, 11:7, 9:11, 6:11, 11:5, 11:6, 13:11)

Semi-finals:
Chen Chien-An 0:4 Lin Gaoyuan (5:11, 10:12, 13:15, 7:11)
Fan Zhendong 4:0 Lee Sangsu (11:5, 11:9, 11:8, 11:7)


Women's Singles:

Challenge KO (Round of 16):
Miu Hirano 3:1 Manika Batra (11:7, 8:11, 11:8, 11:6)
Lee Ho Ching 1:3 Suh Hyowon (9:11, 13:11, 9:11, 9:11)

Quarter-finals:
Zhu Yuling 4:0 Cheng I-Ching (11:5, 11:3, 11:2, 11:3)
Miu Hirano 4:3 Chen Szu-Yu (11:13, 11:9, 8:11, 11:9, 9:11, 11:6, 11:3)
Kasumi Ishikawa 4:0 Doo Hoi Kem (11:9, 12:10, 14:12, 14:12)
Suh Hyowon 3:4 Liu Shiwen (4:11, 11:8, 9:11, 11:9, 1:11, 11:8, 3:11)

Positions 5-8:
Cheng I-Ching 3:4 Chen Szu-Yu (6:11, 4:11, 8:11, 11:3, 11:5, 11:2, 9:11)
Doo Hoi Kem 2:4 Suh Hyowon (10:12, 6:11, 7:11, 11:9, 11:6, 6:11)

Semi-finals:
Zhu Yuling 4:0 Miu Hirano (13:11, 11:8, 11:2, 12:10)
Kasumi Ishikawa 2:4 Liu Shiwen (13:15, 3:11, 11:9, 11:13, 11:9, 6:11)

 
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