Blade for Xiom Vega Pro

[Boogar]

Hey guys

I heard that some rubbers work better with specific blades. For example that soft rubbers are generaly less good with soft blades.
So what do you think about the following combos:

Xiom Vega Pro on Stiga allround > would there be a better blade?

Hurricane 3 Neo on Stiga allround > btw whats the difference to Stiga evolution?

Andro Rasant Grip on Stiga Allround

Thanks for your help!

Cheers

 

[NextLevel]

Hey guys

I heard that some rubbers work better with specific blades.

You heard wrong. Any good rubber can work with any good blade as long as you know what you are trying to do when putting them together.

 

[russell]

You heard wrong. Any good rubber can work with any good blade as long as you know what you are trying to do when putting them together.

I'm currently playing with Tenergy 05 FX and Geospin Tacky but will soon be moving to Tenergy FX on both sides. I intend to use a blade I bought not long ago which is the Tibhar Drinkall Allround Classic. Is that blade good enough for the Tenergy rubber or do I need to buy a better one?

 

[NextLevel]

I'm currently playing with Tenergy 05 FX and Geospin Tacky but will soon be moving to Tenergy FX on both sides. I intend to use a blade I bought not long ago which is the Tibhar Drinkall Allround Classic. Is that blade good enough for the Tenergy rubber or do I need to buy a better one?

Paul Drinkhall used that blade + MX-P in his video. Good popular rubber, good basic blade (I presume based on reviews). They will work for some player out there. Whether they work for you depends on what you are looking for and how you play. So what are you looking for? What kind of speed do you want? Spin level? Do you have video of your play?

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Yeah. NextLevel has already given the important information here. All I am doing is explaining some of what he said.

Two different offensive rubbers on the same blade will work. They might feel different, but they will both work equally well.

The idea of matching rubbers to blade is a bit of a myth. The rubber and the blade will work well with different combinations. But they will work equally well.

Softer rubbers often give more feeling. It is easier to get the ball to sink in more with softer rubbers. But softer rubbers often work better with when your impact is not as powerful of when you are developing the touch to get the ball to sink into the sponge for the topsheet to grab the ball more. But soft rubber also bottoms out more easily. So it can also help you learn the touch of not bottoming out while getting the ball to sink in.

Harder sponge rewards more precise technique and bigger impact. But harder sponge sometimes makes it a little harder to feel certain things. Not always. It depends on the rubber. But often.

But harder sponges work on harder or softer blades and same thing with mid or softer sponges.

So how things work and how things feel are not exactly the same.

As far as the Allround Evolution: it is a little faster than the Allround Classic. It is a little more delicate. But I love that blade. That is one of my favorite inexpensive blades. Very similar feeling to Allround Classic. But it is actually on the low end of Off- or the very high end of All+.

I still would personally recommend it over the Allround Classic. Even though both are great. And if you are looking at those you might also look at the Yasaka Sweden Extra and the Tibhar Stratus Power Wood.

I'll let NextLevel tell you about those. Hehe.


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[laistrogian]

I'm currently playing with Tenergy 05 FX and Geospin Tacky but will soon be moving to Tenergy FX on both sides. I intend to use a blade I bought not long ago which is the Tibhar Drinkall Allround Classic. Is that blade good enough for the Tenergy rubber or do I need to buy a better one?

They should work just fine although frankly I find it weird for someone to use Tenergy on an ALL/ALL+ blade unless the person is a modern defender or chopper. Probably wouldn't pair tenergy on a blade that's slower than korbel

 

[Boogar]

I'll let NextLevel tell you about those. Hehe.

Yes plz do

 

[NextLevel]

Yes plz do

You can check my reviews page (link in my profile next to my info).

 

[NextLevel]

They should work just fine although frankly I find it weird for someone to use Tenergy on an ALL/ALL+ blade unless the person is a modern defender or chopper. Probably wouldn't pair tenergy on a blade that's slower than korbel

Danny Seemiller does it though to be fair, he has anti as change up. It really always depends on your philosophy for playing as Danny has one of the heaviest topspin loops you will ever see and focuses on spin and placement over speed and power.
I stress to people (and I am speaking as an EJ) that many players are using stuff that is too fast for them or which they don't have the skills to control, either for their current or for their aspirational games. But sometimes, it's because they have a concept of what is required to play good table tennis that is totally out of sync with the reality of what is required.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Yep, T05 on a blade like a Stiga Allround Classic (fast spinny rubber on a slow All blade) can be an excellent setup.

I would rather use a slow blade with good rubbers like T05 than use a faster blade with rubbers that are not as good.

That could be a pretty good setup for a lot of players developing skills. And better than a faster setup for so many players on the forum.

Nothing wrong with an All blade with T05.


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[Der_Echte]

Stiga Allround Evolution?

Put a 2 yr old sheet of Aurus on that Slappie and call it a day. Oh, any rubber under $10 for BH. You will be king of spin.

Or at a minimum, you will be king of spending next to no dinero.

 

[shinhyun]

Since my post, I played with the stiga evo and the Vega pro each side 1.8 and I really like it ! I have nice sensation, the rubber is a hard rubber so the shot is quite precise due to the control ofthe blade, the overall speed is nice too. It is a good match up.

 

[russell]

Paul Drinkhall used that blade + MX-P in his video. Good popular rubber, good basic blade (I presume based on reviews). They will work for some player out there. Whether they work for you depends on what you are looking for and how you play. So what are you looking for? What kind of speed do you want? Spin level? Do you have video of your play?

I'm happy with the Tenergy 05 FX and I know it's decent rubber. I didn't know much about the Drinkall Allround blade other than it was recommended by Bribar. My question really related to your previous reply to the OP when you said "Any good rubber can work with any good blade as long as you know what you are trying to do when putting them together." as I was just trying to see if the blade was good enough to use with the rubber as I haven't put it on that blade yet.

 

[NextLevel]

I'm happy with the Tenergy 05 FX and I know it's decent rubber. I didn't know much about the Drinkall Allround blade other than it was recommended by Bribar. My question really related to your previous reply to the OP when you said "Any good rubber can work with any good blade as long as you know what you are trying to do when putting them together." as I was just trying to see if the blade was good enough to use with the rubber as I haven't put it on that blade yet.

Then your question is really whether the Drinkhall Allround is a good blade. Again, it is not about the blade matching the rubber, but what you want to do with the combination.

 

[russell]

Then your question is really whether the Drinkhall Allround is a good blade. Again, it is not about the blade matching the rubber, but what you want to do with the combination.

Exactly. As I know I've got decent rubber I don't want to use it with an inferior blade. Is it a decent blade?

 

[NextLevel]

Exactly. As I know I've got decent rubber I don't want to use it with an inferior blade. Is it a decent blade?

That's a question for someone who has actually used the blade. But based on the reviews, it should be fine for someone out there. Whether it is good enough for you is up to you.

 

[russell]

That's a question for someone who has actually used the blade. But based on the reviews, it should be fine for someone out there. Whether it is good enough for you is up to you.

Thanks. I'll soon know if I like it when I play with the Tenergy on it. If not, based on what I've read on here, I'll give either the Yasaka Sweden Extra or the Tibhar Stratus Power Wood a go.

 

[laistrogian]

Thanks. I'll soon know if I like it when I play with the Tenergy on it. If not, based on what I've read on here, I'll give either the Yasaka Sweden Extra or the Tibhar Stratus Power Wood a go.

When in doubt with 5-ply, go with korbel or acoustic

When in doubt with 7-ply, go with clipper

When in doubt with carbon, go with viscaria

 

[russell]

Tried my Tibhar Drinkall Allround for the first time tonight with black 1.9 new Tenergy 05 FX on one side and new red 2.0 Geospin Tacky on the other side. Also have a bat I've been using which is a Joola Rossi Allround with 2 year old red 1.9 Tenergy 05 FX on one side and 2 year old black 2.0 Geospin Tacky on the other side. The difference was amazing although I'm not sure why other than the Joola setup seemed much more solid, smooth and strong! I found the new bat awful compared to my old bat and yet both these blades were bought from Bribar for the same price and according to the Bribar ratings were both Speed=60 and Control=80. The difference was that the Joola was 7 ply and 90g while the Drinkall was 5 ply and 85g. This is the first time I've ever had 2 blades with the same rubber and I can now see exactly what a huge difference the blade can make.

 

[laistrogian]

Tried my Tibhar Drinkall Allround for the first time tonight with black 1.9 new Tenergy 05 FX on one side and new red 2.0 Geospin Tacky on the other side. Also have a bat I've been using which is a Joola Rossi Allround with 2 year old red 1.9 Tenergy 05 FX on one side and 2 year old black 2.0 Geospin Tacky on the other side. The difference was amazing although I'm not sure why other than the Joola setup seemed much more solid, smooth and strong! I found the new bat awful compared to my old bat and yet both these blades were bought from Bribar for the same price and according to the Bribar ratings were both Speed=60 and Control=80. The difference was that the Joola was 7 ply and 90g while the Drinkall was 5 ply and 85g. This is the first time I've ever had 2 blades with the same rubber and I can now see exactly what a huge difference the blade can make.

It's a no brainer that your joola will feel more solid and faster. 7-ply in general will have less vibration compared to 5-ply. Faster as well. Then there's the weight that you take into consideration. 90g blade will be faster than the 85g version of the same blade.

if you've been using 7-ply for 2 years, 5 ply will feel pretty slow for you in general especially if you occupy the same general blade speed (ALL to ALL+)