Bty Petr Korbel (Hungary) vs Tibhar Stratus Power Wood

[UpSideDownCarl]

Someone knows why Petr Korbel is faster than Primorac and even waldner senso carbon? The last it has carbon but some say is slower than Korbel.

Considering the ply composition of course.

If you read through this thread I already explained that to you.

Head size and thickness are the main factors.

But a blade company can affect changes in speed by thickness of core and outer plies. And by how the wood is glued.


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[dominus7]

If you read through this thread I already explained that to you.

Head size and thickness are the main factors.

But a blade company can affect changes in speed by thickness of core and outer plies. And by how the wood is glued.


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I know, a mate tried both blades (wsc & pk) and said Korbel is faster, it's curious because at normal circumstances carbon makes faster a blade, but in this case an allwood is slightly faster. Thanks for your answer, I read the thread already, i forgot to write your description.

 

[NextLevel]

Carbon doesn't magically make a blade faster. Thickness and overall blade design still matter.

 

[dominus7]

Carbon doesn't magically make a blade faster. Thickness and overall blade design still matter.

Yeah, but add carbon to a Primorac off- and will get a faster blade than Korbel,( magic it doesn't in TT by the way). So it's a factor to add speed a blade, and you're right thickness is a factor too, I thought a millimeter didn't not make a difference.

 

[NextLevel]

Yeah, but add carbon to a Primorac off- and will get a faster blade than Korbel,( magic it doesn't in TT by the way). So it's a factor to add speed a blade, and you're right thickness is a factor too, I thought a millimeter didn't not make a difference.

If the carbon layer is thin, it may not be faste than a Korbel. It might just vibrate a little less. It all depends on what the blade designer is trying to do. You can actually test blades for sound response with software to see their nodes and sweet spot behavior. I know one web forum guy who will return a blade after seeing the frequency chart and whether it fits blades he likes or not. I really should be that disciplined.

 

[BHShoulderPain]

Korbel is a very heavy blade... It hits very very hard and fast with good feedback tho.

 

[rokphish]

Korbel is not a very heavy blade.

 

[NextLevel]

Korbel is not a very heavy blade.

You mean 95g + is not heavy? The three recent ones I have seen are 95, 96 and 98g.

 

[rokphish]

I had come across 12 at a time. Only 1 with 97 gram, the rest are 87-92.

 

[rokphish]

Here's the 3 of 4 I got when I came across the 12. The other one I got is the 97 one.

 

[rokphish]

This Anatomic one is 86-88 gram.

The ST euro one is 92 gram.

I used to have two other Korbels (bought around 2006) 88 and 91 grams.

Owning more than half a dozen, and had actually weighted about 2 dozens, I can say Korbel is not very heavy blades.

Reading on forums since about a decade or so, yes I've read some encountered heavy ones 93-99 grams. Based on my own experience though, the heavy ones are much less in number. Part of the reason why I bought the heaviest one I encountered, the 97 gram is just that, it was the heaviest I've encountered so far. It being one of the good feel blade out of the dozen plays a big part as well as to why I bought it.

 

[dominus7]

This Anatomic one is 86-88 gram.

The ST euro one is 92 gram.

I used to have two other Korbels (bought around 2006) 88 and 91 grams.

Owning more than half a dozen, and had actually weighted about 2 dozens, I can say Korbel is not very heavy blades.

Reading on forums since about a decade or so, yes I've read some encountered heavy ones 93-99 grams. Based on my own experience though, the heavy ones are much less in number. Part of the reason why I bought the heaviest one I encountered, the 97 gram is just that, it was the heaviest I've encountered so far. It being one of the good feel blade out of the dozen plays a big part as well as to why I bought it.

Any FL?

 

[rokphish]

See previous posts.

 

[NextLevel]

Anatomic and ST are old. Talking about recent ones.

 

[rokphish]

Read my previous posts where I posted 3 photos of the latest Korbel FL and the dozen that I weighted.

 

[dominus7]

I've got the blade!!! Isn't heavy at all!!! 90 grs and is lighter than the donic waldner senso carbon

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[UpSideDownCarl]

I've got the blade!!! Isn't heavy at all!!! 90 grs and is lighter than the donic waldner senso carbon

A well balanced 90 gram blade can feel lighter than a head-heavy blade.

Senso means the handle is hollow. That makes the blade head heavy which actually means it is a heavier blade than the weight, but the handle has been hollowed.

Usually a 85 gram blade with a hollow handle is really a 93-95 gram blade with weight taken out of the handle. The head is still the head of a 93-95 gram blade. So it feels like a 93-95 gram blade.

That is the marketing scam of the hollow handle.

They can say it is 85 grams. It ends up having good feeling because it is really a heavier blade. And the hollow handle does actually let you feel more.

But I would still rather have the handle more solid and have the weight in the handle. The better balance gives you a faster whip and a more effortless stroke and reset. The head heavy blade makes your stroke feel more sluggish and labored.

In the end, whatever you are used to still really works though.

Glad the blade came.

When it is suited up, post a photo of your new weapon of mass destruction.


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[chuckjordan2]

I would like to try a Petr Korbel FL, only I'd like a thicker handle. Past Korbels were thin. I read somewhere that some (?) had a thicker handle.

 

[dominus7]

A well balanced 90 gram blade can feel lighter than a head-heavy blade.

Senso means the handle is hollow. That makes the blade head heavy which actually means it is a heavier blade than the weight, but the handle has been hollowed.

Usually a 85 gram blade with a hollow handle is really a 93-95 gram blade with weight taken out of the handle. The head is still the head of a 93-95 gram blade. So it feels like a 93-95 gram blade.

That is the marketing scam of the hollow handle.

They can say it is 85 grams. It ends up having good feeling because it is really a heavier blade. And the hollow handle does actually let you feel more.

But I would still rather have the handle more solid and have the weight in the handle. The better balance gives you a faster whip and a more effortless stroke and reset. The head heavy blade makes your stroke feel more sluggish and labored.

In the end, whatever you are used to still really works though.

Glad the blade came.

When it is suited up, post a photo of your new weapon of mass destruction.


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Here is it!!!

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[dominus7]

I would like to try a Petr Korbel FL, only I'd like a thicker handle. Past Korbels were thin. I read somewhere that some (?) had a thicker handle.

This is not thin handle, it had the same thickness than the donic

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