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Certified USATT Coach
Like with most things in TT over the last 50 years, the only major changes I can see involve the very top players (professional).I have a serious question. Might be controversial, but please bear with me and help me satisfy my innate curiosity,
Is it a good idea to look at these old footage of players from yesteryears other than for nostalgic / entertainment reason?
During those yesteryears, the ball used were smaller and hence the technique employed would be different from the current 40++ mm ball era. From a technical perspective I opined that they are useless to watch other than for nostalgia / entertainment purpose.
What does players her say? Is my assertion correct or incorrect?
P/s Gozo is putting on a flame retardant suit.
is it just me or does that net look lower than modern ones....its probably just me or the older filming qualityTalking about Jörgen Persson, nostalgia and old balls… I just wanted to share this clip that I recently found on YouTube. Such a great game and what an entertainment! I like the new balls, but I somehow wish that table tennis could be like this again.
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I think it’s 4:3 footage converted to 16:9 that makes the net look lower and wider.is it just me or does that net look lower than modern ones....its probably just me or the older filming quality
but the kept the balls way lower back then than they do now, really interesting game
As folks here know, I am under a professional coach and there are some variation of what is being taught to me with respect with what NDH's post above. As usual, there are no right or wrong answer, just different approach maybe.Like with most things in TT over the last 50 years, the only major changes I can see involve the very top players (professional).
There is a slight trickle down to the various levels below that, and there have been very small coaching theory changes for juniors/beginners..... But IMO, 99% remains true.
As a good amateur, if you can spin the ball on both wings and can hit consistent top spin loops, you will be winning a lot of games at any point in the history of the sport.
Whilst the trend of closer to the table, fast attacking play has become more of the norm at the professional level, at *most* levels of amateur play, spin is still king.
If you can come close to replicating any of those older players, you'll be doing very very well.
As NL said, it's also much more likely that us mere mortals will replicate someone who isn't ridiculously athletic like the CNT or most other pro players.
I also think it's why I usually disagree when I see people wanting to copy the technique of the Chinese - It's just an extremely athletic technique that relies so much on fitness and speed.
The Euro style is better when out of position, and I'd hazard a guess that most people are like me...... Constantly playing out of position 😂
You really want to only hit loops when everything is perfect?I watched a few CNT FH training videos recently and the real weird thing is that they actually practice loops with their racket leg in front. What is the point of doing that practice deliberately?
A good coach will adapt their coaching to suit the student.As folks here know, I am under a professional coach and there are some variation of what is being taught to me with respect with what NDH's post above. As usual, there are no right or wrong answer, just different approach maybe.
1. NDH said, " Whilst the trend of closer to the table, fast attacking play has become more of the norm at the professional level, at *most* levels of amateur play, spin is still king. "
My coach is advocating me to play a fast attacking game. When I do spin / loop the ball high & archy, he will correct me and told me to drive more. It appears he advocate fast return. He always told me to hit off the bounce or at the first timing.
2. NDH said, " If you can come close to replicating any of those older players, you'll be doing very very well."
High spinny shot is a no-no for him. Fast - fast drive he approves.
3. I don't think he ( the coach ) wants me to play CNT style, neither nor in my opinion, he is advocating the Euro style. Maybe his is the Malaysian style? I don't know. He is the master, I am his student. He is the coder, he writes the coding, I am the user.
I will go even further- good coach in person better than good internet pundit stating his opinion.A good coach will adapt their coaching to suit the student.
A good student will adapt their play to suit the opponent - As you masterfully showed against the older woman who is a very good blocker.
You explained that by changing your faster attacks for slower spins, you won the game easily.
If the student has below average movement and reach, then teaching them to play a metre behind the table and top spinning/counter spinning shots just isn’t going to be a good idea.
You have to coach to their strengths, and work around their limitations.
For me, being such a big guy, my limitation is close to the table in a high speed exchange. My gorilla like arms are just too long and slow to excel in that area.
So your coach will hopefully have his reasons for coaching you the way he is, rather than just blindly coaching everyone the same……
That being said, I’m yet to see a situation where good quality spin isn’t the best weapon in amateur matches.
For you personally, your coach has done a good job up to now, and in time, you’ll have the ability to comfortably play either style to suit how you want to play against a specific opponent.
As always…. Good coach > random internet man stating his opinion 😂
A good coach, who coaches juniors really well, and is faced with a hopeless case adult learner, may just give up and do things that make the adult learner feel happy.I will go even further- good coach in person better than good internet pundit stating his opinion.
that's meA good coach, who coaches juniors really well, and is faced with a hopeless case adult learner, may just give up and do things that make the adult learner feel happy.hahahahaha.
Happiness, happiness. What is happiness?A good coach, who coaches juniors really well, and is faced with a hopeless case adult learner, may just give up and do things that make the adult learner feel happy.hahahahaha.
Chiquita is one of my main weapons personally and I also had this issue before. The key is to do no arm backswing as you approach the ball and get into position. Rather, you move into the table such a way so that your shoulders faces the left and then twist your upper body to get into the backswing position, with minimal arm movement.I want to do the banana more often, but I always have a fear that as I get the bat in position prior to swinging out the wrist, I always fear that the bat will somehow bang the table. That stops me from doing it more often. And if I take more care not to bang the table, it slows me down, then the ball drops further and I now fear that the ball is too low for me to flip it over the net. I suppose I just need to do it more often and get over the fear, and I don't really know why it bangs the table but I have done it before, where the bat just got stuck by the back edge of the table.
Will try it more in the session next week in my usual club. I guess even in doubles, I can always practice various serve returns that I can use in singles.