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great punch block and loops.
yes getting fitter will always help in table tennis, i have started running for 3-4 miles a day too.. really improves your endurance.

i have to leave for a big tournament day after tomorrow, what do you all think i should focus on today and tomorrow?
 
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great punch block and loops.
yes getting fitter will always help in table tennis, i have started running for 3-4 miles a day too.. really improves your endurance.

i have to leave for a big tournament day after tomorrow, what do you all think i should focus on today and tomorrow?
Competing and playing matches mixed with serve and third ball drills and receive and attack drills or 2 serves and alternate serving drills. Do things that mimic practical play more and forget about technique or crap like that. You just want to compete to win.
 
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Competing and playing matches mixed with serve and third ball drills and receive and attack drills or 2 serves and alternate serving drills. Do things that mimic practical play more and forget about technique or crap like that. You just want to compete to win.
great ideas, do you think i should play matches with lots of different players?
 
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great ideas, do you think i should play matches with lots of different players?
As long as you don't exhaust yourself, that is a good idea. The goal is to be ready to compete. Over time, you will get a better idea of what seems to work and what doesn't as you compete more and more.
 
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loopkills to the middle are easier for the opponent to block the ball back
I wouldn't say that. If you hit their elbow it might be very effective. Best to play it where they are moving away from or where they are weak. This changes from opponent to opponent.
 
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Well, I decided to go for the SPW with H3 Neo and Focus 3.

Props to OOAK for being able to get the products ready for same-day pickup.
Yes, HaggisV runs OOAK like a clock.

Check out hiz TT forum, you might see me there with some post count too. (and I am not a primary pips out player)
 
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I wouldn't say that. If you hit their elbow it might be very effective. Best to play it where they are moving away from or where they are weak. This changes from opponent to opponent.
eyup its a case by case basis

most recent matches ive played with are with penholders like myself

with pretty good traditional penhold backhand too

i outright win points if i aim for either left or right corners or their backhand side but if i blast the ball to their middle i usually put myself in a pretty bad spot
 
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i think i got a tennis elbow :-(

IIRC i got it 2 weeks ago when i used an elastic band to do some stretching. It was a little bit painful but still possible to play, but yesterday i couldn't even hit a ball, i had to stop after 1mn of BH to BH warmup.
actually, because of the tennis elbow, my shoulder is aching again.
recently my wrists are sore also, i think thats mainly because of keyboard / mouse / iphone (+TT)

also when i wake up, it takes a few seconds before im able to move my fingers, my eyes are blurred also for a few seconds. i guess im becoming an old man.

didn't manage to have an appointment with a specialist before next wednesday.
Get checked asap and watch your glucose consumption. If you can, get a continuous blood glucose monitor or something like that. Being aware of what is going on with your blood sugar can make you much smarter when doing a lot of things, especially eating and sleeping.

Tennis elbow can be a lot of things, but usually, it is muscles tightening and pulling on tendons. Get the muscles to relax and then get them stronger, and then it tends to go away.
 
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Here is the semi finals that I played.
Would appreciate some input as to how I should receive that bh penholder serve. I think when the motion he does is small, it is heavy reverse side top spin but I am not receiving it well. Whereas when he does a bigger swing, it is backspin?

You can skip to 2:45 when the match starts.

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Hi Jeff, the old PH gent serves illegally and does not give you any time to properly see what is going on.
He raises his hand with the ball and drops it... sometimes a short 6 cm toss, but alway less than 15 cm high toss.

This ensures the ball is pretty much stationary zero energy when he impacts the ball.

It is essentially the same as serving from your hand.

That makes it difficult to see what happened as there is little time or space.

At 13:02 he struck the ball with bat going forward and open blade... which makes it look like a side/under serve... but at impact, he is closing the bat... and brushing forward upwards... which makes it side/top.

One can make every variation of this serve at impact of toss where ball is stationary and did not move much at all from hand.

He could have well as brushed behind ball with open bat and impacted forward, which would give under spin.

You just have to see him do a few of those serve to see how he makes his variations and then be ready for them.

The answer to the question of how to deal with them is pretty easy when you can read the spin and depth. It all starts with the ball recognition and if you get that one right, it will be immensely easier.
 
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If you understand Chinese, Fang Bo's new club has some pretty good teaching videos as well as some entertaining ones. Here's a series I just found today, it's Zhou Xin coming to Fang Bo's club to challenge the instructors there. Fang, Zhou, and most of the instructors are all former CNT members so that made for some pretty interesting matches.

 
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eyup its a case by case basis

most recent matches ive played with are with penholders like myself

with pretty good traditional penhold backhand too

i outright win points if i aim for either left or right corners or their backhand side but if i blast the ball to their middle i usually put myself in a pretty bad spot
Penholders don't have a middle weakness except for the RPB guys...Penhold wide BH (especially TPB) is the biggest weakness, but everyone already knows that...
 
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Hit a bit today at another club. Getting my ass handed to me by seniors using rubber so old it's basically antispin, because I'm not yet in my groove again. Almost no spin on my serves either.

Coach was coaching some teenagers and asked me to play some games with them, they beat me but I did figure out their issues. If only I had more consistent attacking power to capitalize.

Oh well, I got some points off serve and serve return and a few big forehands. I would have probably killed them 5, 6 years ago, but whatever, it was fun playing against a bit more solid players. They'd been playing about 5 years with a few years coached; me 3 years uncoached, so it's something.

Not getting the most out of my equipment, not even close to. The blade feels okay and not too fast, short game is good, maybe better than Allround Evolution, actually. Even with H3 Neo missing tack. Just not really serving and looping like I should. It'll come.
 
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Hi Jeff, the old PH gent serves illegally and does not give you any time to properly see what is going on.
He raises his hand with the ball and drops it... sometimes a short 6 cm toss, but alway less than 15 cm high toss.

This ensures the ball is pretty much stationary zero energy when he impacts the ball.

It is essentially the same as serving from your hand.

That makes it difficult to see what happened as there is little time or space.

At 13:02 he struck the ball with bat going forward and open blade... which makes it look like a side/under serve... but at impact, he is closing the bat... and brushing forward upwards... which makes it side/top.

One can make every variation of this serve at impact of toss where ball is stationary and did not move much at all from hand.

He could have well as brushed behind ball with open bat and impacted forward, which would give under spin.

You just have to see him do a few of those serve to see how he makes his variations and then be ready for them.

The answer to the question of how to deal with them is pretty easy when you can read the spin and depth. It all starts with the ball recognition and if you get that one right, it will be immensely easier.
Thanks Der!

I nearly thought nobody watched the video haha.

Yeah I should have made a point about his serve toss being low.

I watched the whole video again, and I think I can tell that sometimes what the spin is, but I would be doing it by memory of what the after motion and before motion looks like..

I will have to work on serve receive, and I feel I am not as confident if the serve is short topspin. If I read it is short backspin, i am very comfortable to short push or long push.
 
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Played an event today. Prep was compromised and work and life have gotten too busy so I couldn't go to a club to train this week. Also got only 4 hours of sleep so this was going to be interesting. But it is always fun to play since I don't have any big stakes anymore.

I was the #3 seed in the event. Had 2 other players in my group. I got there and realized I wasn't in the mood to play with a fast racket - I wanted to hit shots so I used an all wood setup to adjust for my lack of training.

The C player came late so I played the B player first. He was a guy who I had seen play before and he had actually beaten my lefty training buddy when my buddy was cramping. I remembered him being very aggressive against long serves vs my buddy so I mostly tried to avoid those. I went up 10‐6 in game 1 and then proceeded to lose 6 straight points. Was that a premonition? Not really, as I won game 2 without much problem. The biggest thing I had to realize was that he had a very consistent counter when you looped to his forehand, he would serve and step back, and then I would King Kong loop into his forehand and have the ball countered back before I could recover. So I had to stop going hard there. I didnt fully embrace the lesson as in game 3, I lost 11‐9. But I won the next two games at 1 and 3, and I also got lucky that he didnt open up with spin against push so he netted a lot of my pushes off his short returns.

I then played thr C player. He used a Yasaka all wood blade either Sweden or Sweden Extra and MarK V and Tenergy 64 fx. The setup seemed to lack spin in the warmups and this carried over to the matches. I lost the the first game at 4 testing a lot of different serves and trying to see what might work. Then I decided that it just made more sense to serve a long serve, largely with light spin but sometimes a regular spin serve, and then since he would roll it with dead equipment, I would practice attacking that ball hard. This strategy worked well as I won the next three games over tough, unconventional opponent (he beat the B player).

In the next round, I faced a lefty who some of you might have seen in the doubles match from an event in May (maybe I didn't post that). He has very tricky serves. I got a big lead in game 1, slowed down at the end but managed to win 11‐7. Game 2, I was up 7‐3, and the a combination of my opponent's inspired play and my lack of mobility led to a tied score at 8‐8 and a loss at 8‐11.. I was now in a dog fight.i started to serve more no spin backspin combinations. I think I also need to develop a mental camera of snapshotting all my opponents shots not just serves. I won game 3 but also realized that if this went 5, I would have to deal with his serves and I should try really hard to win in 4. I went down early but managed to get it back to 6‐6. He took some high risk shots but I ran down the ball and he missed a couple of put away. Opened with heavy spin and did a windmill thirdball to win the 4th game. On to the QF.

In the Quarters, I was playing a guy who had short pips on his backhand. I was expecting him to be aggressive but he had a really mid tempo game. The first game I almost lost after having a lead and it sent to deuce. But I think he pushed my no spin serve off the table. The second game was close but I won that 11‐9. And then I finally began to pay the price for lack of self care and running on cortisol. I just didn't sustain anything and started missing a lot of pushes to my forehand. Lost my aggression as well. I went down badly in game 5 and tried to mount a comeback. Played some good shots down 9‐6 which forced him to pop the ball up and then it hit the edge... didn't save any match points and that was the end of my day.

I only recorded the last match and will post when I find time to edit maybe next weekend. The good thing about being done early is back to the grind of work and home. But it was a great break. And it definitely has me thinking that I should be an all wood player again unless I get fit enough to run around as control on some shots closer to the table was much better. To be continued...
 
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Thanks Der!

I nearly thought nobody watched the video haha.

Yeah I should have made a point about his serve toss being low.

I watched the whole video again, and I think I can tell that sometimes what the spin is, but I would be doing it by memory of what the after motion and before motion looks like..

I will have to work on serve receive, and I feel I am not as confident if the serve is short topspin. If I read it is short backspin, i am very comfortable to short push or long push.
Short topspin is a bit of an illusion. It drifts longer than most people realize and you can usually attack it pretty hard late (taking it early can actually be dangerous if it kicks). The problem of course is that if it really was backspin and you are forced to push,any people don't practice pushing heavy backspin late. If you don't fear an opponent's attack, it is a good idea to wait until the ball is on the fall before returning it, the kick will tell you what was on it pretty clearly.
 
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