Dignics 09c is amazing

[Jslick89]

That is something I never understood well. Most people who play Dignics 09c around me tend to have a more brushing technique. I often told them to hit the ball with an open bat angle. Looked at me as if I would tell them the opposite of a good idea. Of course you can brush with Dignics 09c, but I always liked more to hit through it. That also flattened the arc gave the ball more pace.

i use on my backhand...i have a more flat open bat angle backhand. works really well....

 

[ben1229]

I am just curios does anyone used 1.9mm thickness sponge 09c. How does it compared to 2.1mm

I used the 1.9mm a while ago because the 2.1mm out of stock. It's slower than the 2.1mm , but more controllable on a backhand short game. Backhand lift underpin it's harder than 2.1mm.

 

[naid166]

I do plenty of flat hits on my 09c. works wonders. but it kind of feel like it was MADE for the brush strokes.

Since you used Fastarc G1 not too long ago, how does that compare to the 09c in your experience? On paper, the G1 seems to be slightly faster, less tacky, with less spin. But in reality who knows, they might play completely differently. How's the control? Shot quality with medium-intensity movements? Haven't had the chance to test them side by side but very curious. Someone let me try G1 on a Revoldia CNF recently and it was magical.

 

[joshmak10]

Wowwww!!!! 09C does not disappoint on the BH! Put it on my FZD ALC and I felt that I couldn’t miss! Good speed great spin great control, everything I need in a rubber! The high arc actually makes my BH topspin and block feel very safe. Highly recommend it to anyone and maybe later after my current sheet wears out, will put back on my heavier Super Viscaria. As well, I will test out the Fh as well by twiddling to see if I like it more than my booster 40 degree H3 Neo Blue sponge

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

i am playing now with D05 and D80

I’ve tried a few times the 09C and didn’t feel I had to change

 

[OSA]

I used the 1.9mm a while ago because the 2.1mm out of stock. It's slower than the 2.1mm , but more controllable on a backhand short game. Backhand lift underpin it's harder than 2.1mm.

how about forehand ?

 

[ben1229]

how about forehand ?

OK rubber for forehand if you like H 3 boosted. But if you like those sticky one and lazy for the boosted hassle, go for it, won't disappointed.

 

[Cadoia]

Since you used Fastarc G1 not too long ago, how does that compare to the 09c in your experience? On paper, the G1 seems to be slightly faster, less tacky, with less spin. But in reality who knows, they might play completely differently. How's the control? Shot quality with medium-intensity movements? Haven't had the chance to test them side by side but very curious. Someone let me try G1 on a Revoldia CNF recently and it was magical.

G1 is amazing. Yes its faster. slightly less spinny I would think. throw angle much less. control amazing too.
09c is such a different rubber its hard to describe for me but ill try.
blocking its better than G1. placing the ball better. higher control. especially in short game its crazy good. like RIGHT over the net easy. harder with G1. G1 more bouncy. my defense is better with 09c. one of my opponents use G1 and in high speed rallies he is faster, its obvious, but I outplay him in placements and spin.
I think your skill level has to be good to feel 09c is a better choice. Most people would do much better with G1. I remember doing crazy spinny serves with G1 as well. Its a great weapon. And last a long long time.

 

[joshmak10]

Ok idk abt anyone else but 09c doesn’t totally last long. Grip is still there but tack is all gone even after using cleaner and protect sheet so now to me it just feels like a way too hard, high arcing D05. A little disappointing, anyone else experienced this kind of poor durability?

Will probably switch to a rubber that I can get on TT11 (most likely Omega 7 Pro), since 09C is basically just a regular rubber after two weeks

 

[naid166]

Ok idk abt anyone else but 09c doesn’t totally last long. Grip is still there but tack is all gone even after using cleaner and protect sheet so now to me it just feels like a way too hard, high arcing D05. A little disappointing, anyone else experienced this kind of poor durability?

Will probably switch to a rubber that I can get on TT11 (most likely Omega 7 Pro), since 09C is basically just a regular rubber after two weeks

If the grip is still there, wouldn't the rubber play mostly the same, except get slightly faster over time as the tack goes away?

 

[joshmak10]

If the grip is still there, wouldn't the rubber play mostly the same, except get slightly faster over time as the tack goes away?

it doesn’t really spin as well as I would like, it feels less spiny now than how a D05 felt same amount of play time ( a month

 

[Cadoia]

If the grip is still there, wouldn't the rubber play mostly the same, except get slightly faster over time as the tack goes away?

my 09c is around 6-8 weeks old by now. used for 2 hours daily.
First of all I dont feel there is anything "tacky" about 09c. its my understanding being able to lift the ball off the table with the rubber is a sign of "tacky" right? In that case my 09c didnt lift the ball. Maybe few cm off the table. But I see even ESN rubbers do that sometimes.
So its confusing to me to hear people mention the "tackiness" is lost on 09c. As to me it was never really there.
It has a great GRIP on the ball during play.
Now I bought the 09c as I saw many people mention it last a long time. So far im 8 weeks in or so. And I feel its just the same as day 1 I used it. Not even deteriorated a little. I know this because I have new 09c as well on another racket I dont use. plays identical. And I store this rubber with fresh cover sheets so its not exposed to air or light.

As for some people saying 09c isn't good for looping or other issues I will say this: 09c isn't for beginners. Its not an easy rubber to use. If your rating isn't high enough you shouldn't use it. And shouldn't have opinions about it. Its like asking a hearing impaired person for advice on great High End audio systems. There are too many keyboard experts readily willing to give a discourse on some equipments flaws despite they have 0 clue on how to properly use it.

I can easily see how I can utilize the rubber and my own limitations. It gets even more apparent when I lend my racket to a Pro player and he shows me how its supposed to be used.
This is a great rubber. It can do it all. If you know how to.
And it will last a long time if you take good care of it. As far as I have seen on my friends 09c's expect 6 months. maybe longer.
My hybrid k3 lasted just 6 weeks or so.
My Nittaku G1 lasted over 8 months. maybe longer if I had kept it on.

 

[SleepyMaster]

Ok idk abt anyone else but 09c doesn’t totally last long. Grip is still there but tack is all gone even after using cleaner and protect sheet so now to me it just feels like a way too hard, high arcing D05. A little disappointing, anyone else experienced this kind of poor durability?

Will probably switch to a rubber that I can get on TT11 (most likely Omega 7 Pro), since 09C is basically just a regular rubber after two weeks

D09c is barely can lift the ball even out of the box, so does this “tack goes away” thing means that much if it has almost zero tack or very small amount of that?

If you can’t do spiny shots with D09c that is two weeks old - it’s just too advanced/hard rubber for you. I have D09c on 10+ blades forehands some of them are about five moths in use another one are totally new and I can do all the shot with them regardless of amount of tack - spin is there, control is there, serving is very good.

 

[joshmak10]

D09c is barely can lift the ball even out of the box, so does this “tack goes away” thing means that much if it has almost zero tack or very small amount of that?

If you can’t do spiny shots with D09c that is two weeks old - it’s just too advanced/hard rubber for you. I have D09c on 10+ blades forehands some of them are about five moths in use another one are totally new and I can do all the shot with them regardless of amount of tack - spin is there, control is there, serving is very good.

I use it on backhand, maybe it is too hard for my backhand. I was able to very spin shot for first two weeks and now these past two weeks is not spinny as i want. I think I will use Omega 7 pro now as 09C is very expensive anyways and I’ve heard O7P lasts decent amount of time too. But for what’s 09C is worth at least for first two weeks, it’s very good

 

[Doralikesmath]

I use it on backhand, maybe it is too hard for my backhand. I was able to very spin shot for first two weeks and now these past two weeks is not spinny as i want. I think I will use Omega 7 pro now as 09C is very expensive anyways and I’ve heard O7P lasts decent amount of time too. But for what’s 09C is worth at least for first two weeks, it’s very good

May be you shouldn't clean it using the BTY cleaner. I clean mine using purified water and/or sweat only and the tackiness is still strong despite being like 200+ hours of play. I do have a spare bat with a 1 hour or so D09C on it, and can't feel any difference in tackiness. The topsheet of the old sheet got somewhat softer after wears and tears, but that's about it. I said it before and I'm not afraid to say it again, D09C is the best BH rubber ever.

 

[Doralikesmath]

To show how well loved my old sheet of D09C is, here is a picture I just took. After a layer of Haifu Black Oil, it's even faster and spinnier than the new unboosted sheet.

 

[Leno]

To show how well loved my old sheet of D09C is, here is a picture I just took. After a layer of Haifu Black Oil, it's even faster and spinnier than the new unboosted sheet.

Why do I get the feeling that the rough surface makes it even spinnier.

I used to have a H3 so used that small white fibre started to form on the surface. Still really tacky, but the speed wore off significantly.

 

[_ak]

it doesn’t really spin as well as I would like, it feels less spiny now than how a D05 felt same amount of play time ( a month

try to use more sponge. Such hardness on BH side is definitely not for everyone.
D05 has 4d softer sponge than D09c

 

[SleepyMaster]

I use it on backhand, maybe it is too hard for my backhand. I was able to very spin shot for first two weeks and now these past two weeks is not spinny as i want. I think I will use Omega 7 pro now as 09C is very expensive anyways and I’ve heard O7P lasts decent amount of time too. But for what’s 09C is worth at least for first two weeks, it’s very good

I have using it on backhand too a lot of times, I had D09c both sides on a few blades. Whatever if you feeling that it’s not working for you - just change it to something softer/controllable.

There is a plenty of options in these category. But if you find hard to control D09c I don’t think you need something like D05 to be honest. Something is telling me that G1 will suit you better or the other one not as fast/hard tensor as D05🤓

 

[NDH]

I use it on backhand, maybe it is too hard for my backhand. I was able to very spin shot for first two weeks and now these past two weeks is not spinny as i want. I think I will use Omega 7 pro now as 09C is very expensive anyways and I’ve heard O7P lasts decent amount of time too. But for what’s 09C is worth at least for first two weeks, it’s very good

Is there any video of your level of play available?

D09C will last many months (probably even a year or longer for people playing twice per week or less).

My D09C sheet looks awful, but it still spins, grips and does everything I need it to (it's been on for 6 months now).

D09C is different to most other Butterfly rubbers in that:

1. You really need a fast racket head speed to get the most out of the rubber.

You may have been OK doing slow spinny loops initially, because it has a certain amount of "tack" on the rubber when it's brand new.

But generally speaking, if you aren't playing shots with a fast arm speed, you will probably find the rubber feels quite slow and poor.

2. Brush not hit

Slaps, punches, flat hits..... They are all possible, but less optimal than brushing the ball.

If your backhand is flatter, you probably feel the rubber is too hard and slow?

It's not an ideal rubber for the backhand unless you are playing fast topspin loops more often than not.