OK, I am rolling it. So now you are going to play the definition game. The ball is still going back with lots of top spin because I am not slowing down the spin of the ball.
Only in your imagination. People have repeatedly told you how we prove someone is generating topspin that is keeping the ball safe. Your inability to consistently clear the net shows that you actually missed the ball until you adjusted for a fixed spin ball. Therefore, in a real match, your stroke would be worthless.
The point is that the ball is going back with T25 which is something you said you had trouble doing. Not only that the ball has much more back spin that what a chopper can generate.
You are the only one who read my statement that way. Much better players than yourself, which includes everyone that has responded to you (including players far better than myself, and we aren't even within 600 USATT points of each other) read my original statement as a comparison between T25 and more popular rubbers and less as an absolute statement about T25.
You called me an idiot. The gloves are off wannnabe.
Did I lie?
I have said so many time. If I match the spin of the ball I will not increase or decrease the spin of the incoming ball and it goes back with the same heavy spin it had when it came in.
Which is why your balls die when they hit the net, why your balls do not arc significantly after clearing the net, and why they don't fizz with spin when they are off the table?
Your statement above contradicts you statement about me killing the spin. Which is it fool? Can't you keep your argument consistent.
Isn't it interesting that no one has come to your defense despite your quasi-intelligent statements about looping? Here is a video someone else posted about looping chop - do you see the difference between this stroke and your arm flapping and ball slapping?
OK, let's place the parse words game.
Normally you loop against other people's topspin. When looping you do not add spin you are really subtracting or reversing spin. Yes, normally you are reversing spin fool. Even when blocking. When returning a chopped ball it would be nice to add spin but you don't seem to understand that under spin from the newgy was more already very high. I wouldn't be able to swing much faster and still be in control.
If you consider the effect of the looping stroke a spin vector, the addition of spin is consistent and the same.
The reason why you can't swing much faster and be control is because you are not a healthy specimen (I would also guess that your technique using the parts of the body you didn't display are terrible as there is probably very little true core rotation and knee usage supporting the stroke). Nothing to be ashamed of but men your age don't go around pretending that they can do things men half their age can when they can't. Maybe on dating sites where they can post old pictures, but to post the videos you did and lecture me about looping takes some balls.
I mean, I could name a couple of over 60 men who can loop that ball, but they are national champions in that age category and far better players than I am. Just saying.
You FORGET ONE OTHER THING. I wasn't trying to add spin to the ball. I was just trying to match the spin and you see I did it. Sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less but most of the time pretty close so the ball goes over the net. This video was made to show you up because you said you had troubles looping back chopped balls with low throw rubbers like T25. I can loop or roll back chopped balls with any rubber by matching the spin. You don't seem to understand and THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE TROUBLES returning chopped balls with low throw rubbers.
This is just pure stupidity. The stroke you are using is the stroke of a low level player and is not a stroke that a player at my level would consistently use to attack heavy backspin especially at a height below the net and at a depth further off the table.
You are right that I am using the pre-existing spin. I am not killing it as claimed below.
You and upsidedowncarl seem to be incapable of of knowing the difference between looping underspin and top spin.
I agree that when looping back top spin balls you don't match the spin.
We all know the difference. You are making this one up. The problem here is that you are not LOOPING the ball. Looping requires you to brush the ball and add significant amounts of spin. With topspin, the dynamic is different, but the brushing idea and the goal of using incoming spin to get more (or a high level of) outgoing spin is the same.
This statement conflicts with your other statement about using spin.
If I killed the spin I would need to apply a downwards force. Then the ball would go into the net.
Bring it on.
No, there is no conflict. All that is required to kill spin is the send the ball back with (far) less spin than came in. Even people who push backspin ball with flat paddles don't add to the spin. They use the pre-existing spin and their paddle angle to get the ball over the net. Same with people who flat hit topspin - they don't try to go against the spin with the goal of brushing it and using the incoming spin. I mean, I was one of the best backspin hitters in my club when I was 1500 - I just never called myself a looper then. Your contact is a flat pseudo-brush (a slap) so that is why most of the spin is being killed. It's not much deeper than that.
It's really sad that you think that you can win a battle of skill with semantics.
