How does blade influence gameplay?

[chiz]

Honestly I have not tried it, but the reviews indicates it's loopable. Sure it did not feel that way because of the blade? A stiff fast carbon blade would make the rubber feel harder too..

I choose 42 degrees( didn't know that it was that hard) and it feels like a brick when I play with it. Can barely produce any spin as can't get the ball to penetrate the sponge, but then again this might be due to my skills.

 

[anchorschmidt]

After 6 month after getting my custom bat I'm still regretting it
Admittedly I was a complete noob and went for everything max degree. I think that's where I went wrong.

Yes, most of us agreed that your custom set up was not that good but the options that have been given to you are all good. You don't need to worry about comparing every single tiny detail between these options.

 

[chiz]

Just a bit of friendly advice, you are over-thinking this. I can relate to you as I thought a lot about equipment when getting my current bat and surprise surprise, I didn't like it at first because it was different from my previous bat:

1. It felt too light for me.
2. The FH rubber seemed too bouncy and terrible for generating spin on serves because of the complete absence of tackiness.
3. The grip felt strange.

So I regretted my purchase the day I got it and my mind was already churning with getting Stiga Clipper instead of my current blade because it's supposed to be heavier or trying out a tackier FH rubber like the H3N and guess what happened after 3 weeks? I started playing better than I had ever played before. My touch got better so I could generate good spin even with the non-tacky rubber on serves. I got used to the grip and now my older racket feels strange and slightly heavy. I fixed a few kinks in my FH technique and then I had a better forehand than I had ever had, with even more spin. 2 months after getting my racket, I don't have any regrets at all.

In short: Whatever you pick will feel weird once you play with it at first but you will get used to it and as long as it is a capable piece of equipment (like the ones that all of us have suggested), you won't have any problems. I agree with the others that H3N is not an ideal starting rubber but basically everything that has been suggested to you is good.

I'm over-thinking because for $50 a blade/rubber mistakes are not allowed.

 

[chiz]

Yes, most of us agreed that your custom set up was not that good but the options that have been given to you are all good. You don't need to worry about comparing every single tiny detail between these options.

Yes but I'm trying to find something that will suite my playing style better

 

[Kaizoku]

I'm over-thinking because for $50 a blade/rubber mistakes are not allowed.

Lol, I accidently liked it. Anyhow, 50 usd might feel alot to you, though it's worse when you gamble on a blade in the 200 usd range [emoji12]

 

[chiz]

Lol, I accidently liked it. Anyhow, 50 usd might feel alot to you, though it's worse when you gamble on a blade in the 200 usd range [emoji12]

It is a lot when your yearly salary is $5000
If I was sure that a $100 blade would fit me perfectly without any problem then fine but there is always IF

 

[chiz]

Cole sells XP 2008 S. Power in 1.8 sponge and if you only order a sheet or two, international shipping isn't a killer.

http://www.colestt.com/inverted.php

Scroll down halfway or so.

Shipping is $25 -_-

 

[chiz]

I think I will go with the 896 for blade.

For rubbers I'm still unsure

For BH I want something that will allow me to do the banana flip more comfortably and looping.
For FH Just looping and attacking.

 

[chiz]

I can everything I need to do on BH wing with XP 2008 Super power on just about any blade I use or test.

Carl earlier mentioned that I "Rip Apart" players with my BH, man he is so graphic, but truly, I can make pace or spin with that rubber. I have a good impact and see it well on BH wing. Not everyone has a dangerous BH.

What I like about XP 2008 is it is not tacky, it is NOT super reactive to spin. On soft impacts, the ball doesn't fly out with catapult, so the short game is there if you learn the touch of it. BH power flip is there, and so is banana flip. This rubber's best property is CONTROL.

Since I have a very fast bat speed at impact and a strong impact, I don't need a super fast rubber, I need a controllable rubber and for $8 USD, you wont get a better rubber. Some other rubbers at $20 or $30 begin to get better.

Is the XP 2008 grippy? I mean if it isn't tacky, it must be grippy to create the spin.

 

[anchorschmidt]

I'll help you out:

Other people have recommended the Dawei rubber for BH so I'll trust them on that one. From Spinfactory (I trust these guys, they are a popular online shop in Germany) regarding the Air Illumina Alpha:
Vorab lässt sich sagen, dass sich der Air Illumina Alpha nicht wie ein typischer chinesischer Belag spielt. Chinesen liegen mir nicht so gut, da ich bereits seit Jahren mit Tensorbelägen/Tenergy Belägen spiele.

Optisch macht der Illumina Alpha eine gute Figur. Das Obergummi wirkt matt ohne zu glänzen und ist sehr griffig und keinesfalls klebrig.
Die ersten Konterbälle beim Einspielen ließen schon schnell klar werden, dass der Illumina Alpha ein dynamischer Belag ist, aber über keinen zusätzlichen Tuningeffekt verfügt.

Das Spielgefühl ist vergleichbar mit dem von japanischen/deutschen Belägen mit leichten Frischklebeeffekt, dennoch überraschte mich der flache Ballabsprung. Aus diesem Grund haben wir uns für den 33Grad weichen Schwamm entschieden. In dieser Kombination bietet der Belag ein ausgezeichnetes Verhältnis von Kontrolle und Tempo

The rubber is not like a typical Chinese rubber. The topsheet is very grippy and not tacky at all. It's a dynamic rubber that doesn't require any additional tuning. Comparable with Japanese/german rubbers with a slight in built speed glue effect and a lower throw angle. The sponge hardness is at 33° and therefore gives a great balance between control and speed.

 

[chiz]

Next piece of information: tacky rubbers are sticky not grippy. Grippy rubbers are generally non tacky. Or, like Tenergy, they say there is a little tackiness but it is basically a grippy non-tacky rubber.

Last piece of info: the traditional thinking on looping and over the table looping (banana flip) with the backhand is that a GRIPPY NON-TACKY rubber that is on the softer side works better for backhand loops and banana flips. WHY? Because with the small stroke of a backhand and the whipping action (acceleration) of the stroke a soft rubber allows the ball to sink into the sponge so the topsheet can grab the ball and catapult it out with lots of spin. This is part of why the whole Chinese National team use some version of soft Japanese rubber on their backhands like Tenergy 05FX. Der_Echte is able to do that really well with XP 2008. Don't give him short heavy underspin anywhere from the middle of the FH side to the wide BH because he can footwork to it and flip with his backhand and make you pay. Hahaha.

Any suggestions for Grippy Non-Tacky Soft rubbers? Tenergy are out of my price range

 

[mahomedy13]

Any suggestions for Grippy Non-Tacky Soft rubbers? Tenergy are out of my price range

go for the mark v soft.

 

[chiz]

go for the mark v soft.

noted, does it collect dust easily? With the HN3 I have to clean the rubber after like every point -_-

 

[Kaizoku]

It is a lot when your yearly salary is $5000
If I was sure that a $100 blade would fit me perfectly without any problem then fine but there is always IF

Sure not a lot, though ain't horrible. I make a little less than that in school. Though I Allso have an uncle I can work at in vacations. Though as I wasted my money on online games some time back. (I was a heavy mmorpg spender) I see no problem in spending a little extra on rackets for tt, which is actually a physical thing 😏
Though not everyone are like me 😅

 

[chiz]

Sure not a lot, though ain't horrible. I make a little less than that in school. Though I Allso have an uncle I can work at in vacations. Though as I wasted my money on online games some time back. (I was a heavy mmorpg spender) I see no problem in spending a little extra on rackets for tt, which is actually a physical thing 
Though not everyone are like me 

You make that in school? I'm talking about my FT job here

 

[mahomedy13]

noted, does it collect dust easily? With the HN3 I have to clean the rubber after like every point -_-

its only slighty tacky,so the answer is no.it doesnt collect dust easily like how a h3 will

 

[Kaizoku]

You make that in school? I'm talking about my FT job here

Well, you know, Norway 😘
I could get you the accurate amount later 😎

 

[chiz]

I'll help you out:

Other people have recommended the Dawei rubber for BH so I'll trust them on that one. From Spinfactory (I trust these guys, they are a popular online shop in Germany) regarding the Air Illumina Alpha:
Vorab lässt sich sagen, dass sich der Air Illumina Alpha nicht wie ein typischer chinesischer Belag spielt. Chinesen liegen mir nicht so gut, da ich bereits seit Jahren mit Tensorbelägen/Tenergy Belägen spiele.

Optisch macht der Illumina Alpha eine gute Figur. Das Obergummi wirkt matt ohne zu glänzen und ist sehr griffig und keinesfalls klebrig.
Die ersten Konterbälle beim Einspielen ließen schon schnell klar werden, dass der Illumina Alpha ein dynamischer Belag ist, aber über keinen zusätzlichen Tuningeffekt verfügt.

Das Spielgefühl ist vergleichbar mit dem von japanischen/deutschen Belägen mit leichten Frischklebeeffekt, dennoch überraschte mich der flache Ballabsprung. Aus diesem Grund haben wir uns für den 33Grad weichen Schwamm entschieden. In dieser Kombination bietet der Belag ein ausgezeichnetes Verhältnis von Kontrolle und Tempo

The rubber is not like a typical Chinese rubber. The topsheet is very grippy and not tacky at all. It's a dynamic rubber that doesn't require any additional tuning. Comparable with Japanese/german rubbers with a slight in built speed glue effect and a lower throw angle. The sponge hardness is at 33° and therefore gives a great balance between control and speed.

I'm looking into that atm, seems cheap enough

 

[anchorschmidt]

Re: Banana Flick. It seems like any rubber that's not hard and too tacky can be used in doing that stroke well, so basically most non-chinese rubbers.

 

[Der_Echte]

Shipping is $25 -_-

Give cole an email and ask him direct like.

I KNOW that US Postal rate for a 500 gram parcel is $16 USD for 1st class international parcel and Cole gets better rates as a high volume user of US Postal.

I KNOW that one rubber put in an envelope to make 100 grams or less costs USD $5

The calculator says a ONE KILOGRAM package is $26 USD. You can get a LOT of stuff for 1kg. A blade, a few rubbers, a case and some balls weigh under 500 grams in a small box, so try to figure out for your self.

Calculate the prices Urself and see if international shipping is worth it for you.

http://ircalc.usps.com/?country=10285

A blade and 3 rubbers and some balls should make a package under 400 grams easily.

Sure the shipping almost doubles Ur price, but if you cant find what you need locally, you really don't have much choice but to order from another country and pay for expensive shipping. $16 USD is not a terrible rate for a complete bat, some balls and an extra rubber.

The Illumina rubber Cole sells is not a bad looping rubber. On big swings you get a ton of speed. He tosses in a free bat case with his combos and also discounts the rubber a few dollars.

Eacheng.net from China sells the same stuff for about the same shipping prices to USA (around USD $20)

Look around and see what you get.