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ITTF WTTC Finals Doha 2025, 5/17-25
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Yet after writing a whole post to show yhat Duda was properly rated and that Quadri was overrated, you have been super silent on their last encounter in the context of that post. Can we cut this shit out?
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It's been the same for Gauzy: in an interview with the FFTT yesterday after beating LGY he said all his body was trembling because of the emotions after his victory vs Anders. It's been a tough process for sure, but all he did was... taking a nap, nothing more. But that nap really helped him. He also said it was not that bad to loose the first game to recover some energy and be back in the match vs LGY.
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What you said was what he said about Shin Yibin to argue that she was overrated. He assumes everyone thinks like him so....
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I’m always gonna be his fan forever and ever, but he was Choke Daeseong today unfortunately… 
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By the way I've just heard something weird that tells me Algeria wants to have its place in the WTT circus: Stephane Ouaiche the other "french" magician will enter the WTT circus next season in September.
I've used " " because he's in fact franco-algerian and played the African Games for Algeria last year. So Algeria is going to have the young talent Djelouli, Bouloussa and Ouaiche on tracks, serious players for any African games/champs/cups and also feeders and contenders. Nice team being built here for Algeria.
EDIT: algerian from his grand-father, he's got an alegrian passport since 2013, he's a lefty and did a nice french nationals tournament 2 months ago in men's doubles, he's already won the 2023 edition with Cavaille
I've used " " because he's in fact franco-algerian and played the African Games for Algeria last year. So Algeria is going to have the young talent Djelouli, Bouloussa and Ouaiche on tracks, serious players for any African games/champs/cups and also feeders and contenders. Nice team being built here for Algeria.
EDIT: algerian from his grand-father, he's got an alegrian passport since 2013, he's a lefty and did a nice french nationals tournament 2 months ago in men's doubles, he's already won the 2023 edition with Cavaille
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WS R32
T1 Monfardini 1-4 SYB (9) (-5, 8, -9, -12, -14)
SYB: Thank you for taking out DHK, my nemesis. Dinner is on me.
T2 Ito (8) 4-2 Bajor (7, 9, 9, -9, -2, 9)
Same as Hayata, meeting far more resistance than anticipated.
T1 Monfardini 1-4 SYB (9) (-5, 8, -9, -12, -14)
SYB: Thank you for taking out DHK, my nemesis. Dinner is on me.
T2 Ito (8) 4-2 Bajor (7, 9, 9, -9, -2, 9)
Same as Hayata, meeting far more resistance than anticipated.
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Duda is properly rated as I wrote "international results, especially those in the majors against the cream of the crop", just like I projected how it was possible for Aruna (seed 12/32) to reach the R16 at WTTC 2023 but came up short against Robles (unseeded) in R64. It wasn't wrong of the other member that argued that Aruna was overrated without continental points.
How convenient of you to forget just what happened 2 years ago.
https://web.archive.org/web/2024012...3043416426&w=3VVHb863ae50cMcFBrWyn563dBYXp3v2
FULL MATCH | Quadri ARUNA vs Alvaro ROBLES | MS R64 | #ITTFWorlds2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeGmt7Qdp-U
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Mima sure didn't look happy about her win.
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here is one of the team physio (health orientated viewpoint)
This is nothing (4 matches a day)
I have seen 7 matches a day at the World Juniors.
You have this problem when you play 3 events, and they decide to have singles, doubles and mixed matches on the same day.
I prefer they have specific days for each event. Which is better for preparations - including control table for scheduling.
The weaker players won't have a problem - because they loose, and they can rest.
The stronger players will win, and then more matches clattered together.
Then we sit back and wonder, why there are so many injuries and fatigue and lack of love in playing table tennis.
with the above, a 10 hour day, with 4 matches, with 4 hours break inbetween, at world championship level is a bit crazy.
basically that means, 2 hour prep, then you have 1 hour match, 1 hour break non stop.
So no time for recovery, injury prevention, meals, rest, etc.
the 7 matches I witness.... player came off, sat down, change his shirt, got some fruits and ate, and they called his name. He didn't even sit down for 5 mins.
So then he went off to play - Harimoto. He had 3 matches continue like that going into the singles with Harimoto and he lacked food/nutrition - after the first game, he told the coach, he is a bit dizzy. Had some sugary drinks, but that match was over for him, he already skipped lunch, and it was near late afternoon, with his previous meal, breakfast. The kid was still a minor.
This is nothing (4 matches a day)
I have seen 7 matches a day at the World Juniors.
You have this problem when you play 3 events, and they decide to have singles, doubles and mixed matches on the same day.
I prefer they have specific days for each event. Which is better for preparations - including control table for scheduling.
The weaker players won't have a problem - because they loose, and they can rest.
The stronger players will win, and then more matches clattered together.
Then we sit back and wonder, why there are so many injuries and fatigue and lack of love in playing table tennis.
with the above, a 10 hour day, with 4 matches, with 4 hours break inbetween, at world championship level is a bit crazy.
basically that means, 2 hour prep, then you have 1 hour match, 1 hour break non stop.
So no time for recovery, injury prevention, meals, rest, etc.
the 7 matches I witness.... player came off, sat down, change his shirt, got some fruits and ate, and they called his name. He didn't even sit down for 5 mins.
So then he went off to play - Harimoto. He had 3 matches continue like that going into the singles with Harimoto and he lacked food/nutrition - after the first game, he told the coach, he is a bit dizzy. Had some sugary drinks, but that match was over for him, he already skipped lunch, and it was near late afternoon, with his previous meal, breakfast. The kid was still a minor.
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Hugo lost to Afanador in thr first round. He was overrated too?
The main point here was that players ratings ever since the WTT went to a performance based system doesn't measure player strength in the same way and that a player can have a much higher ceiling (and lower floor) than a purr look at the ratings suggests. In those cases, making it sound like the rating is the main thing is an easy way to ignore all the good wins and top level performances the player has just to lazily defer to ratings. How many players with Quadri's rating have the quality of wins he has (also remembering he was rated higher in the past)? I wouldn't defer purely to Pitchford's rating when assessing his game, I would look at the matchup and use my own judgment in addition to the rating. But I guess you and Tony agree on the stats....
You argued that Aruna was overrated without continental points. The other member juat argued that Quadri was overrated because he lost a lot in early rounds and there was a clear refusal to acknowledge that Aeuna has quality wins that are not typical of a player rated much lower.
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LIN Shidong 's hook serve faulted ! Hiding the ball with his head !
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Miwa only had to play a double match after her victory vs KKY, it's nowhere near Gauzy's performance yesterday. In the french nationals 2 months ago Pauline Chasselain did this over 3 days straight and won 2 titles. Last day: 2 BO7 single match + 1 BO5 double final. Day before: 1 single BO7 + 1 BO5 mixed doubles final + 1 BO5 womens double.
She said it was the same for anyone who made that choice so no need to complain. It's always about choices YOU make. The FFTT didn't complain yesterday because of the health protocol stating it would not be possible for Alexis to recover between his yesterday's single and his today's double matches. The guy knew it could happen, the FFTT knew it, no need to complain, just get through it. The Bros won the match today, it was the best answer.
She's has made a choice too.
Just look at the ATP in tennis, it's the french grand slam in Paris this week, do you think they care for the guys who have to go through the qualifying week before entering the final draw ? it's tennis, it's even harder on the body. Sometimes in the qualifying rounds of Grand Slams they have to play 2 matches in a day !
The NBA is also complaining because 82 games in regular season + playoffs (even play ins for some franchises) + finals. Back to backs, recovery days, etc... every american players complain, Aaron Gordon lately. Do you think Jokic complains ? do You think Nowitzky, Parker, Batum, Gobert, the Gasol Bros complained ? NEVER
I think the europeans have a way stronger psychology about it. Jokic said yesterday he's gonna have some booze in Serbia with friends and then eventually he'll think about the Euro FIBA championships in August
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I think this camera should enforce the rules not just focus on visibility from where the camera is placed which may not be where the player is standing. Felix got away with some stuff cs Manush Shah because of this. But since the camera clearly changed the result of a whole match (Franziska and Cho), I am happy it exists.
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3 matches 1 day?
3 matches 1 day?
that is nice
Alexis is special case, he is half injured.
so playing too much has injury risk - I assume you agree.
But who is the genius to enter and then pull out due to "over playing"..... if federation planned for this, this is unfair for other players who didn't go.
Planed walkover is not sportsmanship.
Let me end off with, complaining or not, does not make the ill treatment on players health right.
thank goodness you are not a player or one that give voice for players.
ITTF will love your support!
if you have played in such level, there is only 1 result and that is injury.
and as I said before, it has been going on for years (but worlds are every 2nd year) and with WTT, the whole business is making profit, for the sake of players health and if you are cool with that, then there is something wrong with you.
I am sure the scheduling and the stress put on the player with terrible organization, will be one major talking point by the new players union.
ITTF/WTT makes money, fans happy with the good action, and players are breaking down, giving up meals and making health sacrifices for little to no gains.
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