Jpen vs Cpen

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I'll give you my two cents as a chinese penholder myself.

If you are really taking this as a hobby without too much caring on improvement, just pick whatever thing you think is funnier.
If you are going to a club and training, at the very least I would go inverted. And second I would consider to actually have an RPB rubber. Even if it's OX long pips, it will better that JPEN and not having any possibility of a backhand.

Personally, I'm pretty sure you can attack relentlesly with CPH. It's tiresome, but you can. As someone mentioned above, the short pips don't look like the best idea because it limits you a lot.

All this said, it's a hobby. So if you can afford it, go crazy and pick whichever is most entertaining.
 
Here is my suggestion:

1) Get the Jpen hybrid blade (so it has Jpen handle but the back side, you can put a sheet of rubber on)

2) Choose any inverted rubber, 2.0mm for now, for the forehand. Then on the backhand (i.e. RPB side) put short pips, maybe 1.0mm or 1.5mm. It dos not really matter.

3) Go have some fun. What I like this set up is, a) you use the inverted on the forehand to loop and play traditional penhold backhand block, b) the short pips on the back side actually does help you grab the penhold paddle even easier, c) short pips at 1.0mm sponge (or even at 1.5mm sponge) is really light so it does not add much weight to the blade and you keep the Jpen paddle light and flexible (I used to play Jpen and Cpen with RPB. When I played Cpen with RPB, both sides were inverted and inverted rubbers are quite heavy and my backside three fingers kept on slipping due to the inverted rubber there), d) you can do flat hit and flat loop or whatever you want with that short pip rubber in an RPB manner.
 
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fair enough, ITTF ruined penhold
i don't think so
penhold is very limited
it was a minority back in its day and two wing looper was only getting started.
even if we have the old rule, I do believe shakehand will still take over, since it has technical advantages over jpen.

countries like japan and china, the home of penhold (including that of Korea) all shift towards shakehand, before the major rule changes I listed

so, sorry pen hold fan, but penhold is not as great as you think it is.

PS. I am a penhold player
I can't do TPB, only do RPB. Already very complete, but still can't keep up to SH as with most penholders out there
 
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i don't think so
penhold is very limited
it was a minority back in its day and two wing looper was only getting started.
even if we have the old rule, I do believe shakehand will still take over, since it has technical advantages over jpen.

countries like japan and china, the home of penhold (including that of Korea) all shift towards shakehand, before the major rule changes I listed

so, sorry pen hold fan, but penhold is not as great as you think it is.

PS. I am a penhold player
I can't do TPB, only do RPB. Already very complete, but still can't keep up to SH as with most penholders out there
yeah, but ITTF did the final blow
so, sorry pen hold fan, but penhold is not as great as you think it is.
it can be great like shakehand tho. Look at Felix or Lin or Hao or Seung-Min.
 
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Normally a jpen blade has cork on the back side. I got a Nittaku excellent and I removed the cork from the back very carefully an put a rubber there. It's perfectly usable for RPB for a Hobby player. The jpen grip can be made to have a better fit for RPB but for ma who is just using it for fun its not necessary.

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yeah, but ITTF did the final blow
lol, if you want to paint it as such, then that is a very weak argument
jpen especially had to transform.
cpen did with rpb.
thinking things can remain as it and not improve is very naive.

Jpen has another problem, they loved to use rare materials that is not sustainable and are forced to transform due to supply chain challenges. all this is not related to ITTF, but rather how the world evolves and so has different table tennis techniques and skill sets


it can be great like shakehand tho. Look at Felix or Lin or Hao or Seung-Min.
shakehand has transformed too, and shakehand has the technical allowance to let them transform even more superior.

RSM, Ma Lin and Wang Hao can't last long, due to the huge emphasis on footwork as they are mostly FH oriented players, except for WH that is the only 2 wing there, but even him... he isn't world champ level

even shakehand FH orientated players will struggle to last long.
Just go and look at all the players who can keep high level for a long time. They are all very strong on BH
 
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lol, if you want to paint it as such, then that is a very weak argument
jpen especially had to transform.
cpen did with rpb.
thinking things can remain as it and not improve is very naive.



shakehand has transformed too, and shakehand has the technical allowance to let them transform.

Felix, and Qiu you mean?

RSM, Ma Lin and Wang Hao can't last long, due to the huge emphasis on footwork.

even shakehand FH orientated players will struggle to last long.
Just go and look at all the players who can keep high level for a long time. They are all very strong on BH
Yeah good points, how do you think Jpen will improve
 
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