New Butterfly rubber "Dignics 05" 2019

[Giangt]

@zeio, I might be missing something but I could not find the national version on the official DHS online store link you provided .. just curious .. is it there somewhere ?

TTM it is here https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/de...胶皮NEO国套狂飚3蓝海绵狂飙乒乓胶皮国家队使用&price=599.00&from=h5

 

[ttmonster]

Thanks @Giangt !

TTM it is here https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/de...胶皮NEO国套狂飚3蓝海绵狂飙乒乓胶皮国家队使用&price=599.00&from=h5

 

[Mimobrok]

As a followup to Coolpug's post, Butterfly Thailand has confirmed the price of Dignics 05 to be 2500 baht(~79 usd). Please note that this is higher than the price for Tenergy 05, which is 2300 baht(~72 usd)

 

[FruitLoop]

I would love a Tenergy 05 price drop but I doubt it will happen. Butterfly just printing money.

 

[Thomash]

Guys, this is the latest picture of Timo Boll gluing his raquets before the match posted on his official FB page.
Is it just me or is the sponge color of the rubbers below a little more red?
So Timo playing Dignics 05 as well?

 

[GusShnaps]

Butterfly posted a picture in Instagram saying that the rubber Lin Gaoyuan used in the Hungarian Open was Dignics 05. They said he used it in his backhand

 

[fais]

I wonder how much the difference will be between T05 and D05 when playing with it. Is 3.2% enough to feel differennce?

Watching the comparison video I think they're demonstrating also the difference in speed, not just the arc. The ball not only appears to propel farther but Also travels faster, so the 3.4% dies appear to offer a decent advantage.

 

[fais]

Hi,

Many interesting comments here.

Permit me an attempt at structural coherence from a couple of perspectives.

Butterfly has top sheet lines and sponge lines. When combined, Butterfly has marketable products called rubber lines.

Butterfly has three types of Tenergy in the Tenergy rubber line: (Regular) Tenergy, Tenergy FX, and Tenergy Hard. Each of the three is distinguished not by the top sheet line but by the sponge line. All of the sponges are in the Spring Sponge sponge line. Each of the sponges is a type within the Spring Sponge sponge line.

Butterfly Dignics is a new rubber line. Because it is not a Tenergy rubber, it is highly likely the top sheet is a new Butterfly top sheet line. The sponge line used is a new sponge line called Spring Sponge X. Today, there is one type of Spring Sponge X sponge, used in the Dignics 05 rubber line product.

One contributor's inquiry seems the most intriguing: What is Butterfly up to? From my view, to understand Apple Inc. is to understand Butterfly.

Thanks,

His phrasing is odd but his message is on point. Hard to read yet easy to understand... I feel like I'm experiencing cognitive dissonance.

 

[Der_Echte]

fais, we have both stomped on the same stomping grounds a bit, but you shoulda been on the forums 10 yrs ago up to the shutdown of About.com forum a few years back... you woulda become accustomed to that style of written communication.

 

[igorponger]

https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=553731254201&scene=taobao_shop&skuId=3824418571547

DHS balls, competition grade, 0.45 USD per one/

Be happy/

 

[Yamaguchi]

Is it true that LGY was using dignics05 on his fh during the hungarian open?

https://www.facebook.com/butterflyt...7445857316392/2122554564472174?type=3&sfns=st

 

[passifid]

backhand not forehand but it's been seemingly confirmed over at mytt

 

[fais]

I did an English translation of the page, and translation for Dignics and Tenergy from Japanese to English is "Digunikusu" and "Tenaji". None you can ever make me say it any other way from now on. Digunikusu and Tenaj.

 

[whocarez]

Maybe this was supposed to be DingNings05, or something like that. Or maybe this is just a working name just in case the product becomes a complete failure. Must be a ploy from the marketing department: let's choose an insane name, that is difficult to pronounce, remember and with no association or recognizable vibes at all. If it works out, we can always just go back to Tenergy-X, Tenergy 05X or even The New Tenergy 05.

 

[Konrad Bak]

Newenergy should be better
NE05

 

[DonnOlsen]

Hi,

One increasingly interesting and continuing open matter with the inauguration of Dignics is boosting. Is it the case the professionals who have selected Dignics have select Dignics boosted as preferred over Tenergy 05 boosted and Tenergy 05 Hard boosted? Is that the decision they made?

Could it be the case that the behind-closed-doors Butterfly engineers have conducted all the necessary experiments using the boosting technologies to arrive at this (proclaimed to be) superior product release? That Dignics boosted will be preferred by many professionals over the other options in their product line? Are these the questions the engineers attempted to answer in their research?

Thanks

 

[FruitLoop]

Spring sponge. Spenergy.

 

[zeio]

Hi,

One increasingly interesting and continuing open matter with the inauguration of Dignics is boosting. Is it the case the professionals who have selected Dignics have select Dignics boosted as preferred over Tenergy 05 boosted and Tenergy 05 Hard boosted? Is that the decision they made?

Could it be the case that the behind-closed-doors Butterfly engineers have conducted all the necessary experiments using the boosting technologies to arrive at this (proclaimed to be) superior product release? That Dignics boosted will be preferred by many professionals over the other options in their product line? Are these the questions the engineers attempted to answer in their research?

Thanks

Butterfly has hinted fairly recently that Tenergy comes boosted off the assembly line. They actually tried edible oil as a performance-enhancing substance during R&D.

フロントランナー
情熱の赤。スプリング スポンジ その3
力強くボールをはじき出す。画期的な性能を備えた「スプリング スポンジ」
https://www.butterfly.co.jp/story/front_runner/vol3_03.html

前述したように、まずは『ブライス』のスポンジと同等の性能に到達し、それを超えていくことを目指した。そのために機械メーカーに小型の試作機を作ってもらうことから始め、試行錯誤を重ねた。同じゴムに複数の発泡剤を入れ、多数のサンプルを作って良いものを選抜する。その作業を延々と繰り返しながら、地道にノウハウを蓄積していった。
より弾性の高いスポンジを作るための取り組み。一部の関係者で集まるミーティングで使用した「高弾性スポンジ」という名称が、そのまま開発プロジェクトの名称になった。そのプロジェクトの存在は社内でも極秘だった。
「実働部隊は3人しかいませんでした。もちろん、社長はプロジェクトの存在を知っていましたが、中身は詳しく知らない。『世界最高のラバーを作ります。だから投資してください、お金を出してください』と言っていました」（山崎）　
スポンジの性能向上に有効な成分を研究する中で、山崎はスポンジの生地に食用油を練り込んだこともあるという。新しいスポンジを作るためなら何でもやってやろうという研究者魂だった。
ハイテンション技術という『ブライス』の革新性に安住することなく、近道をせず、スポンジにイノベーションを求めたバタフライは、まさに『フロントランナー』だった。

 

[FruitLoop]

Boosted for pros only? I never heard that commercial tenergy was boosted and you can't tell out of the pack unlike say MXP.

 

[NextLevel]

Boosted for pros only? I never heard that commercial tenergy was boosted and you can't tell out of the pack unlike say MXP.

It is obviously boosted, the difference ia the performance degradation and how you feel using it when the booster wears off. T05 still feels good while MX-P plays significantly worse to me.